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Re: Big house for the big boy.
« Reply #25 on: October 29, 2013, 03:37:28 PM »
I can legally import 3 months of supply in Australia:
-visit Tahiti,Hawaii,New Zealand,.......
-get friendly medico or knew where to go Dr.X in _________
-have doctors prescription
-package of 3 months (lets say HGH) must not be open
-report in custom/entry form
-& no problems at all  :)

Check yours country medical import/custom regulations
there is always legal way to do it.

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Re: Big house for the big boy.
« Reply #26 on: October 29, 2013, 04:12:39 PM »
This is a bunch of BS. You don't get to elite PL level just by taking drugs. Powerlifters overall train very hard. And there is a strong genetic component too, just like bodybuilding (skeletal structure and other things). And you need a certain mentality as well, not everyone can lift with the aggression needed.

What he said ^ above!!!

There is more to our sport then drugs and bench shirts! Ryan fucked up BIG time and made some dumbass mistakes, but you cant take away what this guy did. Fuck he damn near had a 700 raw bench juiced or not that is fucking impressive and he was not a fat ass like me!!!

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Re: Big house for the big boy.
« Reply #27 on: October 29, 2013, 05:00:52 PM »
He just saw DA's recent pics

 ;D ;D ;D

He's a mega asshat but his strength and lifts are boss. His unreal fanny pack mentality is only second to his power.
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Re: Big house for the big boy.
« Reply #28 on: October 29, 2013, 07:07:43 PM »
number of powerlifting fans in the world who give a shit:

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Re: Big house for the big boy.
« Reply #29 on: October 29, 2013, 09:31:43 PM »
What kind of sport is bench pressing? Take a big fat guy and have him arch his back with a wide grip so he can push a bar for a 12 inches of range of motion with bench shirt that is so stiff he can't get his arms down. I want to see that same guy take a 315 pound bar bell off the floor and put it over head. I bet he can't do it. This kind of nonsense is just phony strength. 

And I want to see an Olympic weightlifter bench press 600 pounds (a crazy feat of strength/athleticism) in only a t-shirt. Wouldn't stand a chance. Why would you expect a powerlifter to clean and jerk like a champion? It's not part of his sport.

Don't be so simple and ignorant.

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Re: Big house for the big boy.
« Reply #30 on: October 29, 2013, 09:33:49 PM »
Oh, and Ryan could have muscled 315 to his shoulders (clean the weight) and pressed it overhead, easy.

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Re: Big house for the big boy.
« Reply #31 on: October 29, 2013, 11:48:49 PM »
1503 (tablets) : 915 (day's in jail) =1.6 tablets p/d , shit investment

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Re: Big house for the big boy.
« Reply #32 on: October 29, 2013, 11:56:39 PM »
1,503 tabs is personal use for that dude. Such bullshit laws.
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Re: Big house for the big boy.
« Reply #33 on: October 30, 2013, 12:02:47 AM »
And I want to see an Olympic weightlifter bench press 600 pounds (a crazy feat of strength/athleticism) in only a t-shirt. Wouldn't stand a chance. Why would you expect a powerlifter to clean and jerk like a champion? It's not part of his sport.

Don't be so simple and ignorant.

Elite weightlifers have crazy pressing strength. They'd fare far better at the bench than elite powerlifters would at the snatch or clean and jerk.
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Re: Big house for the big boy.
« Reply #34 on: October 30, 2013, 12:09:11 AM »
Rezazadeh didn't throw up 580lbs over his head using only leg drive. This beast's delts and triceps are crazy strong for pressing.

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Re: Big house for the big boy.
« Reply #35 on: October 30, 2013, 03:49:00 AM »
Kennelly raw benched #670. He'd easily have gotten #315, although the Clean might be a bit ugly. And probably would've gotten #405 and change out of the racks without much trouble.

Like wise, most of the big SHW Olympic lifters can probably get into the low and mid 5's on bench without much trouble. The percentage would be higher if the press was still included. The Press correlates better for figuring Bench Press numbers.

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Re: Big house for the big boy.
« Reply #36 on: October 30, 2013, 03:54:41 AM »
A lot of these elite American powerlifters can barely tie their shoes laces. This is no exaggeration of their lack of ability.
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Re: Big house for the big boy.
« Reply #37 on: October 30, 2013, 12:03:45 PM »
1,503 tabs is personal use for that dude. Such bullshit laws.

I was thinking the same thing. 12 pills a day is only like four months worth... Then I saw the 20 grand and gold coins and third (or fourth) strike.

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Re: Big house for the big boy.
« Reply #38 on: October 30, 2013, 12:17:39 PM »
This is such BS!  Our gov is broke and wasting time on PEDs!


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Re: Big house for the big boy.
« Reply #39 on: October 30, 2013, 01:29:40 PM »
This is such BS!  Our gov is broke and wasting time on PEDs!



the Government is too big.

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Re: Big house for the big boy.
« Reply #40 on: October 30, 2013, 01:36:20 PM »
pedling roids as a world renounded athelete in a roid infested sport may not be a wise move  ::)

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Re: Big house for the big boy.
« Reply #41 on: October 30, 2013, 01:56:47 PM »
Hairline of Peace

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Re: Big house for the big boy.
« Reply #42 on: October 30, 2013, 02:07:19 PM »
Hairline of Peace
hair density is his problem


not a snowball chance in hell to salvage it with finasteride and hairtransplant now


his cranium seems well shaped tho which will suit the fat bloated face nicely

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Re: Big house for the big boy.
« Reply #43 on: October 30, 2013, 03:09:16 PM »
Elite weightlifers have crazy pressing strength. They'd fare far better at the bench than elite powerlifters would at the snatch or clean and jerk.

Completely disagree. And you'll now disagree with me, so let's just can the debate.

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Re: Big house for the big boy.
« Reply #44 on: October 30, 2013, 03:11:29 PM »
A lot of these elite American powerlifters can barely tie their shoes laces. This is no exaggeration of their lack of ability.

Athletic ability is specific to what the athlete's sport demands. No more and no less. Powerlifters strive to maximize ONE specific athletic attribute: absolute strength. Tying shoe laces? Are you kidding?! Please tell us the relevance.

They're extreme athletes. To be so over-the-top, they need to push matters beyond the norm.

Listen, you don't know much about powerlifting and do not like powerlifting. So why not just steer clear of anything to do with it and stop disrespecting those who find satisfaction in the pursuit of excellence in the endeavor?

I'm no fan of multi-ply lifting, either, but let people do what they want. And regardless, just because Ryan chose to compete in the bench press with heavy gear, doesn't mean he wasn't exceptionally strong and powerful and gifted. The guy could press close to seven in a t-shirt. He has in his possession specific genetic realities that allowed him to do so. No one is gonna deny steroids didn't massively help, but his structural integrity must be above average to have allowed him to survive the type of stress required to become so successful.   

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Re: Big house for the big boy.
« Reply #45 on: October 30, 2013, 03:15:32 PM »
Elite weightlifers have crazy pressing strength. They'd fare far better at the bench than elite powerlifters would at the snatch or clean and jerk.

not nearly as much as they used to. find a video of any elite WLers benching or strict pressing. you won't, because those lifts aren't in their training cycles. you'll find some dudes doing push presses or klokov/sotts presses, but that's all.

and obviously elite powerlifters would do worse at a snatch than an oly lifter would do at the bench, oly lifts are HUGELY about the skill of the lift itself, not the brute force of it. a powerlifter might be able to deadlift, front squat, and OHP more than the oly guy, but can't outdo him in the C&J because he doesn't have the SKILL for it, not because he lacks STRENGTH.

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Re: Big house for the big boy.
« Reply #46 on: October 30, 2013, 03:20:11 PM »
not nearly as much as they used to. find a video of any elite WLers benching or strict pressing. you won't, because those lifts aren't in their training cycles. you'll find some dudes doing push presses or klokov/sotts presses, but that's all.

and obviously elite powerlifters would do worse at a snatch than an oly lifter would do at the bench, oly lifts are HUGELY about the skill of the lift itself, not the brute force of it. a powerlifter might be able to deadlift, front squat, and OHP more than the oly guy, but can't outdo him in the C&J because he doesn't have the SKILL for it, not because he lacks STRENGTH.

Well said.

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Re: Big house for the big boy.
« Reply #47 on: October 30, 2013, 04:37:38 PM »
not nearly as much as they used to. find a video of any elite WLers benching or strict pressing. you won't, because those lifts aren't in their training cycles. you'll find some dudes doing push presses or klokov/sotts presses, but that's all.



Are you illiterate? You're acting as if someone here said benching and strict pressing are part of their training cycles. Should I reply with an equally stupid response saying powerlifters don't incorporate snatches and clean and jerks? No... because that would be as pointless as your post.

I said elite weightlifters have crazy pressing strength because they do.

Here's a push press. Front delts and triceps are heavily involved in this lift as with all pressing movements.



and obviously elite powerlifters would do worse at a snatch than an oly lifter would do at the bench, oly lifts are HUGELY about the skill of the lift itself, not the brute force of it. a powerlifter might be able to deadlift, front squat, and OHP more than the oly guy, but can't outdo him in the C&J because he doesn't have the SKILL for it, not because he lacks STRENGTH.

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a powerlifter might be able to deadlift, front squat, and OHP more than the oly guy,
Deadlift yes, but front squat a2g and ohp? No. But nice try.

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but can't outdo him in the C&J because he doesn't have the SKILL for it, not because he lacks STRENGTH.
A powerlifter lacks not only the skill/technique but also the athleticism, power and explosiveness to snatch and clean and jerk.


Fact of the matter is elite Olympic weightlifters would fare far better at the bench than elite powerlifters would at the snatch or clean and jerk. Make excuses all you want I don't care but facts are facts.

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Re: Big house for the big boy.
« Reply #48 on: October 30, 2013, 04:46:29 PM »
Athletic ability is specific to what the athlete's sport demands. No more and no less. Powerlifters strive to maximize ONE specific athletic attribute: absolute strength. Tying shoe laces? Are you kidding?! Please tell us the relevance.

They're extreme athletes. To be so over-the-top, they need to push matters beyond the norm.

Listen, you don't know much about powerlifting and do not like powerlifting. So why not just steer clear of anything to do with it and stop disrespecting those who find satisfaction in the pursuit of excellence in the endeavor?

I'm no fan of multi-ply lifting, either, but let people do what they want. And regardless, just because Ryan chose to compete in the bench press with heavy gear, doesn't mean he wasn't exceptionally strong and powerful and gifted. The guy could press close to seven in a t-shirt. He has in his possession specific genetic realities that allowed him to do so. No one is gonna deny steroids didn't massively help, but his structural integrity must be above average to have allowed him to survive the type of stress required to become so successful.    

Brother for the record I have nothing against IPF powerlifting or their US affiliate. But I will always call it how I see it especially with regard to these 'athletes' who compete in these multi-ply american powerlifting orgs with their above parallel depth squats and other shenanigans.
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Re: Big house for the big boy.
« Reply #49 on: October 30, 2013, 06:11:04 PM »
Brother for the record I have nothing against IPF powerlifting or their US affiliate. But I will always call it how I see it especially with regard to these 'athletes' who compete in these multi-ply american powerlifting orgs with their above parallel depth squats and other shenanigans.

I actively dislike what multi-ply lifting has done to powerlifting's overall credibility. This I will state. But powerlifting at its core is an extremely valid expression of an athlete's earned strength and power. Brute and disciplined strength training is incredibly tough and requires both nerves of steel and incredible resilience. Anyone who's been of this camp KNOWS this, fully. That some choose to lessen their truthful glory with the use of all these aids is for others to explain.

An athlete like Brad Gillingham is extremely impressive. To diminish his efforts and achievements because his sport differs from the one known as Olympic lifting is kinda lame and narrow minded. He is no less an athlete than any other.