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BLACK PETE - Wonderful Tradition and Fun? Agree or Disagree?
« on: November 02, 2013, 01:56:07 PM »
Well seems to be a whole lot of freedom haters in the land of wooden shoes.

WTF is the fuss about?

Discuss. 

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THE REAL DIRT ON BLACK PETE
MARCO VISSCHER
JOURNALIST

The Dutch tradition of Black Pete is not racist; it’s just a bit of fun.


Just as we, the Dutch, can be fairly sure we’ll always be disappointed at the World Cup, there’s something else we can count on in life. As soon as the trees start shedding their leaves, someone will try to start a national discussion about Saint Nicholas’ Eve, a children’s celebration on 5 December where presents and sweets are enjoyed by all. Yet the impulse for this annual debate doesn’t come from anti-consumerists or anti-sugar zealots; it comes from anti-racists.

You see, Saint Nicholas – a slim version of Santa Claus, but dressed more like the Pope – is invariably accompanied by an army of ‘Black Petes’. With their black-painted faces, red lips and big curly Afro wigs, the Petes make for a rather uncomfortable sight, evoking a long-gone era when the Dutch were more into murder, theft and the slave trade than playing football or building bike lanes. And while the tall Saint Nicholas figure acts like an elderly statesman, elegantly waving his hand at the cheering crowd from atop his white horse, the Black Petes form a happy bunch of clumsy helpers who just dance and jump around, handing out sweets.

Now, for anyone from outside the Netherlands, Saint Nicholas’ Eve, complete with Black Petes, may sound like the silliest thing ever. It probably is. Our tradition has been ridiculed quite a bit by foreigners, and some of them, like American comedian David Sedaris, have done a fine (if pretty inaccurate) job at doing just that. To most outsiders, our traditional children’s celebration comes across as, well, racist. And if you were to trace back the origin of the characters, I don’t doubt they arose from a racist worldview. Yet, for millions of well-meaning Dutch people, Saint Nicholas’ Eve really is no more than a traditional children’s celebration.

Still, every year we hear a minority of people say: ‘Black Pete is a sign of racism. Let’s either change his colour, or cancel the party.’ And usually, the majority of Dutch counter: ‘Hands off our tradition!’ But this year, these arguments have got completely out of hand. Now officials from the United Nations alongside longstanding campaigners complain that Saint Nicholas’ Eve is racist, while the majority of the Dutch have become so fed up with these party poopers that they’re saying things which make you wonder whether they’re well-meaning at all.

http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/the_real_dirt_on_black_pete/14219#.UnVlCPkQbg8
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« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2013, 02:01:53 PM »
As an indication of how the Dutch feel about this: the facebook page supporting this tradition got over 1 million likes in 24 hours. And 2 million within 48 hours. On a population of 17 million...

In short: fuck the UN.

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« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2013, 02:05:59 PM »
Dutch people love and cherish their holiday traditions.

What chaos would ensue if the UN tried to ban sailboats or wooden shoes!?

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« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2013, 02:08:41 PM »
Dutch people love and cherish their holiday traditions.

What chaos would ensue if the UN tried to ban sailboats or wooden shoes!?
We'd set fire to wheels of cheese in the streets.

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« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2013, 02:11:12 PM »
looks tasty!

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« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2013, 02:51:28 PM »
looks tasty!



Soon the UN will be kicking down your kitchen door.
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« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2013, 03:34:42 PM »
I think the UN got it twisted

Pete got a little dirty climbing down the chimney

no offence to anyone of the African persuasion!

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Re: BLACK PETE - Wonderful Tradition and Fun? Agree or Disagree?
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2013, 03:36:32 PM »
if you dont like it here then go back to the caves in africa where you came from.

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« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2013, 03:50:52 PM »
Holland is great

you can walk down the street (in wooden shoes) in black-face with a joint in one hand and hooker in the other. Team freedom approved!

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« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2013, 03:55:09 PM »
i always walk around with the dick out of the pants

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« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2013, 04:07:14 PM »
I would trade some if our black Trayvon's for black Pete's anyday.  No homo. 

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« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2013, 04:13:35 PM »
those who know a bit of history would point out that 5000 years ago the Africans had tall buildings and a "great civilization" while the euros were hanging out with their wang out in caves.

But that's beside the point

happy holidays fellas!!

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« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2013, 04:19:36 PM »
those who know a bit of history would point out that 5000 years ago the Africans had tall buildings and a "great civilization" while the euros were hanging out with their wang out in caves.

But that's beside the point

happy holidays fellas!!



And yet now the Africans live in shit huts and are being ravaged with AIDS. 

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« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2013, 04:26:54 PM »
I've never seen a person of African descent with naturally bright red lips.

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« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2013, 04:30:18 PM »
I've never seen a person of African descent with naturally bright red lips.

Blue gums of peace. 

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« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2013, 04:32:05 PM »
This  is getting insane, end this long time tradition because it annoys a minority of outsiders.

Holy shit...  ::)

Cultural Marxism is real, and it's reaching critical mass.

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« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2013, 04:33:34 PM »
In short: fuck the UN.

One of the reasons we have zero respect for the United Nations and the International Community.

This is why we get the final call on whether or not our soldiers are prosecuted in foreign courts.

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« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2013, 04:34:34 PM »
I have basically solved the issue.

If we simply require people dressing up as Black Pete to be African then there's is nothing to debate.

African gentlemen will be lined up around the block to get a chance at this opportunity.



  
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« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2013, 04:34:38 PM »
This  is getting insane, end this long time tradition because it annoys a minority of outsiders.

Holy shit...  ::)

Cultural Marxism is real, and it's reaching critical mass.

I am offended that EVERY black comedian makes fun of white people in their stand-up.  Not really but you get the point. 

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« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2013, 04:35:41 PM »
those who know a bit of history would point out that 5000 years ago the Africans had tall buildings and a "great civilization" while the euros were hanging out with their wang out in caves.

But that's beside the point

happy holidays fellas!!



By African who do you mean, Egyptians, sure they were a huge civilization, hardly comparable

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« Reply #20 on: November 02, 2013, 04:39:41 PM »
Who are the Marxist savages at the UN that started this?

Names?

???

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« Reply #21 on: November 02, 2013, 04:45:28 PM »
Who are the Marxist savages at the UN that started this?

Names?

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Nearly all of them which explains their "communist" agenda.
On a side note - the US leaders practically invited the UN to devour the her from the inside.
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« Reply #22 on: November 02, 2013, 04:48:53 PM »
very racist and retarded "tradition"

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« Reply #23 on: November 02, 2013, 05:04:36 PM »
don't shit on Dutch Tradition bro

he's just got dirty sliding down the chimney!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #24 on: November 02, 2013, 05:12:49 PM »
If Africans or primitive Natives / Asians had a tradition of whitening their faces and eating parsnips (or something else white people do), the UN would celebrate it as a cultural treasure.

Europeans though, who developed the modern world and contributed more to successful, progressive culture than all African countries combined are under attack.

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