Dorian vs Ronnie! ....lets simplify the debate.. Volume vs Density!

[Double XL]

That shot is sick. 

For comedy's sake, here's the accompanying Yates shot..LOL

LOOK AT RONNIE, WOW   DORIAN IS GETTING SERIOUSLY OWNED THERE.

[Double XL]

As ND would say - according to the "true bodybuilding criteria" of shape, mass, taper and detail, ronnie crushes Yates on all of these except for mass. However, as is obvious, they are both pretty even in terms of mass.

And, as Ronnie did, as Yates got bigger, he got worse:



Yates truly was, other than his lat spread (from the waist up only), nothing special from the front onstage..

Ronnie however, had a taper that Dorian would have killed for...

and quads that make Dorian's look like an amateur's..

Again, I don't really see what all the hype is about Dorian's physique. Here is the best arms forward most muscular I could find:


and once again, I see okay chest, good abs but shitty arms and quads..

Then, you look at Ronnie's version, also taken onstage:


not the greatest shot (the best one is that backstage black and white one, but then all the dorian freaks would cry foul saying it was not taken onstage), but it totally destroy's yates version.

Other than the lat spread, can someone please explain why Dorian was so good from the front again?? Unless you completely ignore arms and legs, I can't really see how dorian could be so special...

I for one, would LOVE to see ronnie vs. Dorian onstage, just to see Ronnie hit a biceps pose..


and have dorian run off the stage in fright!

DORIAN IS GETING OWNED IN THOSE COMPARISON SHOTS

[Mussolini]

there is only one way to solve this argument, and that is to have them square off on stage................OH yah I almost forgot, they have already and Dorian beat Ron everytime.

DOnt give me "Ron didnt hit his peak BS" as they are almost the exact same age.

[Mussolini]

  Yeah. too bad we won't be doing that Titus fight...

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Yah I was looking forward to that.

What part of Florida are you from? Im heading down there at the end of Feb and would like to train and hit up a few night spots.

[Double XL]

there is only one way to solve this argument, and that is to have them square off on stage................OH yah I almost forgot, they have already and Dorian beat Ron everytime.

DOnt give me "Ron didnt hit his peak BS" as they are almost the exact same age.

IT DOESNT MATTER IF THEY ARE THE SAME AGE DOUCHBAG.  WHEN DORIAN WON HIS FIRST OLYMPIA RONNIE PLACED 14TH, SO ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY HE WAS JUST AS GOOD BACK THEN THAN WHEN HE FIRST STARTED WINNING OLYMPIAS? HAHAHA WHAT A FUCKING IDIOT.  BUT HEY YATES AND RONNIE ARE THE SAME AGE SO THAT MUST MEAN THEY HIT THEIR PEAKS AT THE SAME TIME ROFL.

[healthiswealth]

there is only one way to solve this argument, and that is to have them square off on stage................OH yah I almost forgot, they have already and Dorian beat Ron everytime.

DOnt give me "Ron didnt hit his peak BS" as they are almost the exact same age.

Peak is BS? WTF are you smoking? how is that BS? Ronnie was just making it up into the pro ranks when Yates was dominating, getting better every year. Please explain to me how this is BS...

[Double XL]

Peak is BS? WTF are you smoking? how is that BS? Ronnie was just making it up into the pro ranks when Yates was dominating, getting better every year. Please explain to me how this is BS...

EXACTLY, YOU CANT REASON WITH C*NTS LIKE MUSSOLINI THOUGH.

[pumpster]

almost forgot, they have already and Dorian beat Ron everytime.

Zane beat Schwarzenegger. He must have been better.

They reached their peaks at different ages!

[Mussolini]

IT DOESNT MATTER IF THEY ARE THE SAME AGE DOUCHBAG.  WHEN DORIAN WON HIS FIRST OLYMPIA RONNIE PLACED 14TH, SO ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY HE WAS JUST AS GOOD BACK THEN THAN WHEN HE FIRST STARTED WINNING OLYMPIAS? HAHAHA WHAT A FUCKING IDIOT.  BUT HEY YATES AND RONNIE ARE THE SAME AGE SO THAT MUST MEAN THEY HIT THEIR PEAKS AT THE SAME TIME ROFL.

Take it easy on the caps their pal, simmer down you dont want a heart attack now do you? Sounds like I hit a nerve and you are the one who cant be reasoned with, since you resort to personal insults because your argument has no implicit evidence or support.

Face it man Your boy Ron got owned by DY every time they squared off, you even proved my argument by pointing out that Ronnie only place 14th when Dorian won. It just goes to show how Dorian was way ahead of Ron.

All you Ronnie lovers can do is speculate, but the bottom line is Ron was owned everytime it mattered when he stepped on stage with Dorian.

They started training at the same age, its just so happens after Dorian retired, all his closest competition,(Nasser, Kev, Dillet, Ray) who also owned Ron in their primes, where now past their prime, thus leaving Ronnie with little to no competition.

Bottom line When Dorian, Ray, Dillet Nasser and Levron where all at their peaks Ron finished beneath them.

[Mussolini]

Zane beat Schwarzenegger. He must have been better.

They reached their peaks at different ages!

Yes but Arnold also beat Zane. How many times did Ron Beat Dorian again??

[gibberj2]

i'm getting tired of this stupid what if thread. Let's discuss who would win... Kasparov or Fischer!  see if this doesn't kill the thread.

[pumpster]

but Arnold also beat Zane.

Duh! That was the point. Zane's early win, like Yates', was meaningless in hindsight. Go to sleep and figure it out.

[suckmymuscle]

Take it easy on the caps their pal, simmer down you dont want a heart attack now do you? Sounds like I hit a nerve and you are the one who cant be reasoned with, since you resort to personal insults because your argument has no implicit evidence or support.

Face it man Your boy Ron got owned by DY every time they squared off, you even proved my argument by pointing out that Ronnie only place 14th when Dorian won. It just goes to show how Dorian was way ahead of Ron.

All you Ronnie lovers can do is speculate, but the bottom line is Ron was owned everytime it mattered when he stepped on stage with Dorian.

They started training at the same age, its just so happens after Dorian retired, all his closest competition,(Nasser, Kev, Dillet, Ray) who also owned Ron in their primes, where now past their prime, thus leaving Ronnie with little to no competition.

Bottom line When Dorian, Ray, Dillet Nasser and Levron where all at their peaks Ron finished beneath them.

PERPETRATOR:Mussolini
VICTIM:Double XL

  Sorry, DoubleXL, but Mussolini just killed you. That reply made you bleed to death, from your anus.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[suckmymuscle]

Yah I was looking forward to that.

What part of Florida are you from? Im heading down there at the end of Feb and would like to train and hit up a few night spots.

  Actually, I'm from Ft.Lauderdale. I had misenderstood your question.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Rottmag]

[healthiswealth]

alright from those pics, Dorian has Ronnie on the side tri's, front lat, and MAYBE the abs and thighs....


also, notices that ALL of Ronnie's pics are from contests, while some of those pics of the infamous black and white yates shots...clearly an advantage for yates...

[Geo]

Zane beat Schwarzenegger. He must have been better.

They reached their peaks at different ages!

no they did'nt they were both at their best in thier early 30's

do some more research kid before ya make a fool of yourself around here


 

[gibberj2]

when did zane beat schwarzenegger?

[Hulkster]

when did zane beat schwarzenegger?

Zane beat schwarzenegger when Arnold was 4 years old at only at stage 3 of Pampers Huggies.

Therefore Zane is far better and would have destroyed Arnold every time they stepped onstage .

[Zugzwang]

when did zane beat schwarzenegger?

1968 Mr Universe. It's one of the things that got Arnold on the right track.

[Double XL]

Take it easy on the caps their pal, simmer down you dont want a heart attack now do you? Sounds like I hit a nerve and you are the one who cant be reasoned with, since you resort to personal insults because your argument has no implicit evidence or support.

Face it man Your boy Ron got owned by DY every time they squared off, you even proved my argument by pointing out that Ronnie only place 14th when Dorian won. It just goes to show how Dorian was way ahead of Ron.

All you Ronnie lovers can do is speculate, but the bottom line is Ron was owned everytime it mattered when he stepped on stage with Dorian.

They started training at the same age, its just so happens after Dorian retired, all his closest competition,(Nasser, Kev, Dillet, Ray) who also owned Ron in their primes, where now past their prime, thus leaving Ronnie with little to no competition.

Bottom line When Dorian, Ray, Dillet Nasser and Levron where all at their peaks Ron finished beneath them.

MELTDOWN

[Double XL]

DORIAN GETTING OWNED

IM JUST GOING TO BUMP THIS AGAIN....HOLY FUCK LOOK HOW BAD DORIAN IS GETTING OWNED

[pumpster]

do some more research kid before ya make a fool of yourself around here

What a hoser. OK Farmer Brown.

[IceCold]

ok.  its very hard to say who is better, both are great.

i'm one of the biggest dorian fans on this board, and i'll say that big ron could and probably would beat dorian.  but he would not blow him away.

people are posting ronnie's pics from his best ever showing, imo the 2k3 Olympia, while people are showing various shots of yates, some from photo shoots, etc.  at least post the same pics of him in his best showing.

[Hulkster]

people are posting ronnie's pics from his best ever showing, imo the 2k3 Olympia, while people are showing various shots of yates, some from photo shoots, etc.  at least post the same pics of him in his best showing.

Okay, here you go, from the 1993 Olympia:


yates showing off his...ummmm..unusual taper...

Anything after 93 is post tear, and therefore crappy by comparison, except for this ingenious pose:


It couldn't have been more obvious if Yates tied one arm behind his back!

Kudos to Dorian for being an awesome poser...even if he lacked the physique to go with it...

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!