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Re: Yugoslavia
« Reply #25 on: November 20, 2013, 06:55:48 PM »
Quote from: arce1988 on November 20, 2013, 06:29:02 PM

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Only explanation I've read for US involvement.
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Re: Yugoslavia
« Reply #26 on: November 20, 2013, 06:56:27 PM »
  Ro6er Bacon is asking what I want to know as well. WHY did the USA do it. WHAT did the USA get from it? Money? Resources? Land? What?
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Re: Yugoslavia
« Reply #27 on: November 20, 2013, 06:56:45 PM »
Quote from: arce1988 on November 20, 2013, 06:50:19 PM
  Great posts Dundat. Thank you.

No problem my man.

 In the end, theres good and bad of every race, gender, creed and color. Not all Serbs are bad, not all are good, same goes with Croats, Bosnians, etc....they really just need to let it all go. Leave the past in the past. Respect each other and leave each other alone. They shouldn't demand things that aren't theirs to begin with and whatever other bullshit the minority causes.

It'll take time as those that lost loved ones get older and pass on. Hopefully the future generations can learn to make it work.  
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Re: Yugoslavia
« Reply #28 on: November 20, 2013, 06:58:01 PM »
  I guess there are good Albanians too. I just have not found one yet. I am still on the quest though.
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Re: Yugoslavia
« Reply #29 on: November 20, 2013, 07:00:20 PM »
Quote from: Roger Bacon on November 20, 2013, 06:54:20 PM
I guess I'm just trying to get you going... lol  ;D

I have nothing invested in this so itll be hard but I appreciate the truth and facts as much I can gather them. You know this from all my posts on the political board. I didn't always take the most popular opinion but one I felt was just. I think you're very much the same way and that's why we got along.  ;D

Peace. lol
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Re: Yugoslavia
« Reply #30 on: November 20, 2013, 07:07:01 PM »
Quote from: arce1988 on November 20, 2013, 06:56:27 PM
 Ro6er Bacon is asking what I want to know as well. WHY did the USA do it. WHAT did the USA get from it? Money? Resources? Land? What?

There is no doubt that the main reason for the US intervention was for its own worldwide dominance. Humanitarian reasons were not at the forefront of its mission but it still does not take away from the facts as to what had occurred there.

The US took advantage of the situation there for its own gain on the world platform.
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Re: Yugoslavia
« Reply #31 on: November 20, 2013, 07:08:06 PM »
dundat, are you denying that the whole of croatia suckered up to the nazi regime during ww2?

are you aware of that.


they been their lapdogs.

yes,the serbs too.

and yes the partisans were started in croatia, see, this is unbiased.

youre just making it sounds in your first post as if croatia has or never had any ties whatsoeever to the nazi regime.

i hate these discussions, and thats all ill say.

govts did stuff, the common ppl followed or not, in order to survive.

every one is different.

maybe some 100 years later the ba;lkan ppl can finaly get over that.its soon gonna be 100 years, this is pathetic.

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Re: Yugoslavia
« Reply #32 on: November 20, 2013, 07:08:36 PM »
Anyone seen Pretty Village, Pretty Flame? It was recommended to me by a getbigger, I'm interested in the subject too.

Highly recommend it!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Village,_Pretty_Flame
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Re: Yugoslavia
« Reply #33 on: November 20, 2013, 07:15:11 PM »
Quote from: galeniko on November 20, 2013, 07:08:06 PM
dundat, are you denying that the whole of croatia suckered up to the nazi regime during ww2?

are you aware of that.


they been their lapdogs.

yes,the serbs too.

and yes the partisans were started in croatia, see, this is unbiased.

youre just making it sounds in your first post as if croatia has or never had any ties whatsoeever to the nazi regime.

i hate these discussions, and thats all ill say.

govts did stuff, the common ppl followed or not, in order to survive.

every one is different.

maybe some 100 years later the ba;lkan ppl can finaly get over that.its soon gonna be 100 years, this is pathetic.




With respect, you seem to have the inability to separate what happened in the 1940's and what happened in the 90's. They are separate events and should be treated as such although that's what causes much of the problems over there, the inability of the people of that area to simply... let it go.

No, the whole of Croatia was not suckered up to the Nazi regime as is clarified in your next statement.

I agree, I don't like getting into these long debates either, I also agree with the rest of your commnets. I have nothing personal against you and would like to keep it civil.
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Re: Yugoslavia
« Reply #34 on: November 20, 2013, 07:24:30 PM »
Quote from: Roger Bacon on November 20, 2013, 07:08:36 PM
Anyone seen Pretty Village, Pretty Flame? It was recommended to me by a getbigger, I'm interested in the subject too.

Highly recommend it!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Village,_Pretty_Flame
yah its a very good and funny movie, its actualy anti war movie, but bc the subject is soo touchy, there will be conflicted views.

but the movie, how it made, is brilliant.


dundat btw ,im not even a serb, im about as serbian as borat is.
im part croat though.

the 90s was "just" a contunation of the ww2 conflict, however kept regionaly.

you say communism sucks?ok but the nation was more socialist, it wasnt ruled by lenin.

and look what the nationalists of all 3 main sides have done.

yah i dont feel like talking about this anymore, its no good for the nerves.
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Re: Yugoslavia
« Reply #35 on: November 20, 2013, 07:31:58 PM »
Quote from: Bindare_Dundat on November 20, 2013, 07:00:20 PM
I have nothing invested in this so itll be hard but I appreciate the truth and facts as much I can gather them. You know this from all my posts on the political board. I didn't always take the most popular opinion but one I felt was just. I think you're very much the same way and that's why we got along.  ;D

Peace. lol

Thanks, and yes I know! I'm always interested in your take!
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Re: Yugoslavia
« Reply #36 on: November 20, 2013, 07:33:00 PM »
Quote from: galeniko on November 20, 2013, 07:24:30 PM
yah its a very good and funny movie, its actualy anti war movie, but bc the subject is soo touchy, there will be conflicted views.

but the movie, how it made, is brilliant.


dundat btw ,im not even a serb, im about as serbian as borat is.
im part croat though.

the 90s was "just" a contunation of the ww2 conflict, however kept regionaly.

you say communism sucks?ok but the nation was more socialist, it wasnt ruled by lenin.

and look what the nationalists of all 3 main sides have done.

yah i dont feel like talking about this anymore, its no good for the nerves.

So you are a mix of Croat and Montenegrin?   

Never said it was ruled by Lenin but it's parties associated with communism despite any other name.  Oppression of any kind during that time is not something I deem a leap in human evolution,  thus I consider it a failure, (not that it's current economic state is better. )
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Re: Yugoslavia
« Reply #37 on: November 20, 2013, 10:01:20 PM »
I am not moving there next week.
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Re: Yugoslavia
« Reply #38 on: November 20, 2013, 11:08:56 PM »
Quote from: arce1988 on November 20, 2013, 03:39:46 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/soccer/news/20131120/croatia-celebrate-nazi-chant.ap/?xid=ob_sisports



Croatia player, fans celebrate World Cup berth with pro-Nazi chant


Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/soccer/news/20131120/croatia-celebrate-nazi-chant.ap/#ixzz2lF6hBbMz


 Croatia Nazi



  I refuse to admit Yugolsavia is gone. So I still use the name.

Amigo we exchanged a email or 2, and we agree on a lot of things.
But this time you went over the top, or looks like CroCop type mucho hombre have than something physical to you ?.
As a pretend to be ex US soldier you repeated several time: I love Serbia & made very much anti American/Nato
statement.
Real ex military man would never talk BS.
Suggestion, visit Split (again) & call local Croatian boys with insulting name, or visit Kosovo,Montenegro & try your luck.

Like you don't know that several Croats brigades a together with theirs American buddies in Afganistan.

And WHO a you to call them Nazi.
OBW, it was Yugoslavia not Yugolsavia.
OBW 2, real martial artist would not expose his abilities or ranking.
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Re: Yugoslavia
« Reply #39 on: November 20, 2013, 11:12:20 PM »
We don't give a damn about soccer, just check with showstoppa.
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Re: Yugoslavia
« Reply #40 on: November 20, 2013, 11:14:50 PM »
Quote from: arce1988 on November 20, 2013, 06:58:01 PM
  I guess there are good Albanians too. I just have not found one yet. I am still on the quest though.

Albania is NATO member country & they would die together with American soldiers if is needed.

Take a very cold & long shower amigo.
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Re: Yugoslavia
« Reply #41 on: November 20, 2013, 11:18:47 PM »
 German knight... I have insulted you... but NOT on purpose. I was just posting the article that I read. I apologize. Serbia treated me great. Croatia did too. Montenegro was also great. I just feel closer to Serbia.



 Peace.
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Re: Yugoslavia
« Reply #42 on: November 20, 2013, 11:19:22 PM »
Quote from: arce1988 on November 20, 2013, 06:56:27 PM
 Ro6er Bacon is asking what I want to know as well. WHY did the USA do it. WHAT did the USA get from it? Money? Resources? Land? What?

Croats state of Dubrovnik (Dubrovniks Republic) was the 1st country which officially recognized
American Independence.
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Re: Yugoslavia
« Reply #43 on: November 20, 2013, 11:20:14 PM »
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Video footage shows Simunic taking a microphone to the field after the match and shouting to the fans: ''For the homeland!''


Oh brother. This is the supposed pro-nazi chant?  ::)
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Re: Yugoslavia
« Reply #44 on: November 20, 2013, 11:22:29 PM »
 SI wrote the article. NOT me.

 (Sports Illustrated)
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Roger Bacon

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Re: Yugoslavia
« Reply #45 on: November 20, 2013, 11:29:19 PM »
SI wrote the article. NOT me.


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He is USA. He is USMC.
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Re: Yugoslavia
« Reply #46 on: November 20, 2013, 11:30:58 PM »
Quote from: Bindare_Dundat on November 20, 2013, 07:33:00 PM
So you are a mix of Croat and Montenegrin?   

Never said it was ruled by Lenin but it's parties associated with communism despite any other name.  Oppression of any kind during that time is not something I deem a leap in human evolution,  thus I consider it a failure, (not that it's current economic state is better. )

Only 8 weeks ago Nato War Games "Slunj 2014" ended in Croatia,Nato brigades from the US,locals,Slovaks,British,etc,... participated.
Small "guest" contigent of Montenegrans army  (soon to be Nato member ) was there too.
Several Montenegros army officers a in Afganistan with Croats MP brigade.
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Re: Yugoslavia
« Reply #47 on: November 20, 2013, 11:35:02 PM »
Quote from: Wolfox on November 20, 2013, 11:20:14 PM

Oh brother. This is the supposed pro-nazi chant?  ::)

Joe Simunic, was born in Australia & if is: FOR MY HOME  pro-nazi chant then I am from another galaxy.
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Re: Yugoslavia
« Reply #48 on: November 20, 2013, 11:48:23 PM »
Regarding to that soccer match (Croatia-Island), young croats player Mateo Kovacic is the new Maradona
with his ball abilities driving trough 5 Islands players twice.........now I see why he plays for Inter Milan.
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Re: Yugoslavia
« Reply #49 on: November 21, 2013, 11:57:37 AM »
 

Couldnt care about any bullshit footballers, but the former Yugoslavia region is blessed with shit loads of smoking hot women.
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