ROFL Girl who got attacked gives speech humanizing her attackers

[calfzilla]

raped repeatedly. 

What does this mean?  Maybe this rapist is superman but I'm one nut and done.

[Kwon_2]

White liberal activist gets raped in Haiti, blames white men and the hierarchy

[Radical Plato]

I think it's good that she's not bitter and is actually trying to make the world a better place instead of just hating and complaining.

I agree.  Rape can be good for a woman  

Did it ever occur to you the reason she was raped was because of the wide spread prevalence of the very liberal homo attitude she has.  Her belief that these poor folks should be molly coddled and pitied is ridiculous.  Once people are broken, they are near impossible to fix.  The world will never be a nice place where everyone gets along and is well fed and happy, best protect yourself from the less fortunate.  This woman is fixin to get raped again, mark my words.  It is quite possible it could take a good half a dozen rapes for her to get the message.

[Archer77]

It's all a left wing conditioning.  She's made to feel guilty even when she is the victim.

[Parker]

She's correct.  More cops and more prisons has been tried and tried.  Law enforcement is not effective when people en masse see their situation as hopeless.  Helping people to have a real future and giving them hope will bring them back into society of their own volition.

I would be wrathful.  She's a better person than I am.  Her beliefs were unshaken by cranial trauma.  Much respect.

You can only help those who want to help themselves. The others want to help themselves to what others have.

[Tapeworm]

You can only help those who want to help themselves. The others want to help themselves to what others have.

Everyone in a shitty environment would seek to improve their situation, for themselves and for those they love.  A quasi-legal or criminal income simply makes good sense when compared to other options.  I might choose the same in that circumstance.

Where she's off the mark is that urban blacks are not going to listen to some suburban white girl talking to them about how to 'improve.'  The heads of urban programs should be hardassed and successful black men & women (with other colors involved).  Otherwise it just comes off as a bunch of bullshit.  These people (yes, these people!) need a bullshit free discussion about why it makes good sense to stay legal, with work and education programs that really provide a way out of the fucking ghetto on a livable income.  

[Archer77]

You can only help those who want to help themselves. The others want to help themselves to what others have.

Very true, my friend.  

Everyone in a shitty environment would seek to improve their situation, for themselves and for those they love.  A quasi-legal or criminal income simply makes good sense when compared to other options.  I might choose the same in that circumstance.

Where she's off the mark is that urban blacks are not going to listen to some suburban white girl talking to them about how to 'improve.'  The heads of urban programs should be hardassed and successful black men & women (with other colors involved).  Otherwise it just comes off as a bunch of bullshit.  These people (yes, these people!) need a bullshit free discussion about why it makes good sense to stay legal, with work and education programs that really provide a way out of the fucking ghetto on a livable income. 

They might listen to an upstanding professional brotha like, Parker.  I know he tries in his professional life. 

[Tapeworm]

Very true, my friend.  

They might listen to an upstanding professional brotha like, Parker.  I know he tries in his professional life. 

I'd go help them myself but they'd just shoot me.  I'm a bleeding heart but I'm not a complete idiot!

Maybe if I did the Zwarte Piet makeup? 

[Archer77]

I'd go help them myself but they'd just shoot me.  I'm a bleeding heart but I'm not a complete idiot!

Maybe if I did the Zwarte Piet makeup? 

I guarantee you would be shot if you were made up as Zwarte Piet. 

[SmallPole]

i think she might have been hit so hard it actually knocked all the sense straight out of her 

[Hulkotron]

Truths by E-kul

[#1 Klaus fan]

I agree.  Rape can be good for a woman  

Did it ever occur to you the reason she was raped was because of the wide spread prevalence of the very liberal homo attitude she has.  Her belief that these poor folks should be molly coddled and pitied is ridiculous.  Once people are broken, they are near impossible to fix.  The world will never be a nice place where everyone gets along and is well fed and happy, best protect yourself from the less fortunate.  This woman is fixin to get raped again, mark my words.  It is quite possible it could take a good half a dozen rapes for her to get the message.

I know rape can now be almost anything but I have never heard anyone define a hit in the head as rape. I think you are being a sexist captain save-a-ho.

[ProudVirgin69]

I think it's good that she's not bitter and is actually trying to make the world a better place instead of just hating and complaining.

This, not much point in hating the attacker for the rest of her life.  Hate is baggage

[Archer77]

This, not much point in hating the attacker for the rest of her life.  Hate is baggage

Sure, forgiveness is good if it's for thr right reasons.  What we are seeing here is rationalizing. 

[Radical Plato]

I know rape can now be almost anything but I have never heard anyone define a hit in the head as rape. I think you are being a sexist captain save-a-ho.

Sometimes it helps to read the whole thread to understand it.  You obviously missed Roger Bacon's post about the 'White liberal activist who was raped in Haiti, and then blamed white men and the hierarchy'.  The thread is more about how fucked up liberal hippies are and how their ridiculous tolerant nature sees them not even caring when they are assaulted or raped, and often times feeling sorry for the perpetrator.

[Tito24]

but i think we can all agree on the fact she should die

[ProudVirgin69]

Sure, forgiveness is good if it's for thr right reasons.  What we are seeing here is rationalizing. 

I ultimately, I’ve moved past it and I really have no hard feelings about what has happened. And I just see it as another reason why we need to better support our youth with activities and youth programs, which is actually what I do for work, and it’s great to see teenagers do incredible things when they’re supported and empowered,

I don't think so....she says she isn't dwelling on it, and that teenagers with support & opportunity aren't likely to do this.

What do you think that she should say?  "Death to Hebrews"?

[Shockwave]

White liberal activist gets raped in Haiti, blames white men and the hierarchy



http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?178510-Liberal-Activist-Goes-to-Haiti-Gets-Raped-Blames-White-Men

Two weeks ago, on a Monday morning, I started to write what I thought was a very clever editorial about violence against women in Haiti. The case, I believed, was being overstated by women’s organizations in need of additional resources. Ever committed to preserving the dignity of Black men in a world which constantly stereotypes them as violent savages, I viewed this writing as yet one more opportunity to fight “the man” on behalf of my brothers. That night, before I could finish the piece, I was held on a rooftop in Haiti and raped repeatedly by one of the very men who I had spent the bulk of my life advocating for.

It hurt. The experience was almost more than I could bear. I begged him to stop. Afraid he would kill me, I pleaded with him to honor my commitment to Haiti, to him as a brother in the mutual struggle for an end to our common oppression, but to no avail. He didn’t care that I was a Malcolm X scholar. He told me to shut up, and then slapped me in the face. Overpowered, I gave up fighting halfway through the night.

Accepting the helplessness of my situation, I chucked aside the Haiti bracelet I had worn so proudly for over a year, along with it, my dreams of human liberation. Someone, I told myself, would always be bigger and stronger than me. As a woman, my place in life had been ascribed from birth. A Chinese proverb says that “women are like the grass, meant to be stepped on.” The thought comforted me at the same time that it made me cringe.

A dangerous thought. Others like it have derailed movements, discouraged consciousness and retarded progress for centuries. To accept it as truth signals the beginning of the end of a person–or community’s–life and ability to self-love. Resignation means inertia, and for the past two weeks I have inhabited its innards. My neighbors here include women from all over the world, but it’s the women of African descent, and particularly Haitian women, who move me to write now.

Truly, I have witnessed as a journalist and human rights advocate the many injustices inflicted upon Black men in this world. The pain, trauma and rage born of exploitation are terrors that I have grappled with every day of my life. They make one want to strike back, to fight rabidly for what is left of their personal dignity in the wake of such things. Black men have every right to the anger they feel in response to their position in the global hierarchy, but their anger is misdirected.

Women are not the source of their oppression; oppressive policies and the as-yet unaddressed white patriarchy which still dominates the global stage are. Because women–and particularly women of color–are forced to bear the brunt of the Black male response to the Black male plight, the international community and those nations who have benefitted from the oppression of colonized peoples have a responsibility to provide women with the protection that they need.

The United Nations, western women’s organizations and the Haitian government must immediately provide women in Haiti with the funding that they need to build domestic violence and rape crisis centers. Stop dividing Black families by distributing solely to women, which only exaggerates male resentment and frustration in Haiti. Provide both women and men with job training programs that would allow for self-sufficiency as opposed to continued dependency on whites. Lastly, admit that the issue of racial integration might still need addressing on an international level, and then find a way to address it!

I went to Haiti after the earthquake to empower Haitians to self-sufficiency. I went to remind them of the many great contributions that Afro-descendants have made to this world, and of their amazing resilience and strength as a people. Not once did I envision myself becoming a receptacle for a Black man’s rage at the white world, but that is what I became. While I take issue with my brother’s behavior, I’m grateful for the experience. It woke me up, made me understand on a deeper level the terror that my sisters deal with daily. This in hand, I feel comfortable in speaking for Haitian women, and for myself, in saying that we will not be your pawns, racially, politically, economically or otherwise.

We are women, not weapons of war. Thankfully, there are organizations here in Haiti who continues to fight for women’s human rights like, MADRE, SOFA and Enfofanm.

Rather than allowing myself to be used in such a fashion, and as opposed to submitting to the frustration and bitterness that can be born of such an experience, I choose to continue to love and educate instead. My brothers can be sensitized to women’s realities in Haiti and the world over if these are presented to them by using their own clashes with racism and oppression as a starting point.

They must be made to understand the dangerous likelihood of the oppressed becoming the oppressor if no shift in consciousnesses takes place and if no end to the cycle of trauma occurs. I intend to see that it does…by continuing to live and work fearlessly with justice in mind, through the creation of a safe space for women in Haiti and by creating programming for Haitian men that considers their needs, too. Weapons annihilate, dialogue bears fruit.

It’s the fruit I’m interested in now, no matter how strange or bruised it might appear.

this bitch makes no fucking sense.

What the fuck? Receptacle for blacks hatred? She sounds like one of those psycho bitches that got off on being raped by a black dude.


her ideas are all over the fucking place.... pretty obviois she has no fucming clue what she believes or what shes doing.... typical scatterbraindd idiot trying to save rhe would

[Archer77]

I ultimately, I’ve moved past it and I really have no hard feelings about what has happened. And I just see it as another reason why we need to better support our youth with activities and youth programs, which is actually what I do for work, and it’s great to see teenagers do incredible things when they’re supported and empowered,

I don't think so....she says she isn't dwelling on it, and that teenagers with support & opportunity aren't likely to do this.

What do you think that she should say?  "Death to Hebrews"?

What she should say is there are major problems in the black community that result in these types of incidents and it is the responsibility of the black community to address them.  She needs to admit she was attack because she was a white female.  More community problems aren't going to help.  Her honesty would be good for the black community.   

[The Showstoppa]

 

[beakdoctor]

Here is the deal with these two 'victims' and other libtards like them. They were victims of crimes that rendered them 100% uselss and defensless. Totally powerless to change their fate at the hands of another. Pretty gross situation to be in.

You would expect them to be angry and demand some form of vengance or retribution. But they're incapable of doing it and rather than face the fact that they are still powerless to do anything to their attacker they adopt this bullshit 'forgiveness' mindset which is the only way they can have any control over the situtation at all. either that or take ccw classless and self defense classess and be in a state of constant preparedness for the next attack.

They don't want to live their lives that way...Thats not who they are as people.

Now the bitch that got raped, who can say what else is wrong with her. She has no sense of self worth and has some other issues going on. The way she describes it and the words she uses makes it seem like it is almost a fantasy of hers in some fashion. I have never heard a rape victim talk like this let alone announce it to the world. Yeah what a brutally honest confessional sure she's grateful that this happened to her. Fucking girl is an insult to women everywhere. She says this shit for one reason : to make herself look like a better person.

In truth, What they are doing is minimizing the responsibility of the attacker and distancing him from any wrong doing which only empowers them to do it again.

[tommywishbone]

but i think we can all agree on the fact she should die

  I see no problem here.

[Tapeworm]

Here is the deal with these two 'victims' and other libtards like them. They were victims of crimes that rendered them 100% uselss and defensless. Totally powerless to change their fate at the hands of another. Pretty gross situation to be in.

You would expect them to be angry and demand some form of vengance or retribution. But they're incapable of doing it and rather than face the fact that they are still powerless to do anything to their attacker they adopt this bullshit 'forgiveness' mindset which is the only way they can have any control over the situtation at all. either that or take ccw classless and self defense classess and be in a state of constant preparedness for the next attack.

They don't want to live their lives that way...Thats not who they are as people.

Now the bitch that got raped, who can say what else is wrong with her. She has no sense of self worth and has some other issues going on. The way she describes it and the words she uses makes it seem like it is almost a fantasy of hers in some fashion. I have never heard a rape victim talk like this let alone announce it to the world. Yeah what a brutally honest confessional sure she's grateful that this happened to her. Fucking girl is an insult to women everywhere. She says this shit for one reason : to make herself look like a better person.

In truth, What they are doing is minimizing the responsibility of the attacker and distancing him from any wrong doing which only empowers them to do it again.

Chill out, Zarathustra.

[beakdoctor]

Chill out, Zarathustra.

I understand our opinions differ. But she's not a better person for her forgiveness. She's a weaker person. Because it is easier to 'forgive' and be done with it (even though we know she will be haunted by it) than it is to commit yourself to a life of anger and seeing that justice is served.

[Tapeworm]

I understand our opinions differ. But she's not a better person for her forgiveness. She's a weaker person. Because it is easier to 'forgive' and be done with it (even though we know she will be haunted by it) than it is to commit yourself to a life of anger and seeing that justice is served.

How about having the courage of one's convictions?  She held this POV before and didn't change it after she got a bop on the noggin.  Plenty of people would have.  Maybe even me.