JFK - remember this great Irishman and the land he conquered

[irishdave]

Nothing but the grandson of immigrants from the irish republic...just a man but an Irishman with great drive and ambition who became a leader. A great example to all of us.

Who would think that a small country in Europe who were persecuted by the British for centuries could produce such magnificent scholars like Yeats or Bram Stoker or send men to America who would come off the boat as peasants yet infiltrate the police force and political rings or every major city in the United States. What other people have been able to achieve such greatness? The irish even BUILT these cities. These are the hands that built America. Nobody else comes close!!!!!!

[dr.chimps]

Cool. How'd that story end, Dave?   

[irishdave]

Cool. How'd that story end, Dave?   

He's riding Marilyn Monroe up in the clouds

[ChristopherA]

My best friend is Irish and would jump in front of a train if I asked him to. JFK? He was a POS

[Thespritz0]

Interesting!!  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2508767/JFK-Jackie-Kennedy-sex-Air-Force-One-day-death.html

[Teutonic Knight]

Irishman , I like you guy's but unfortunate fact is 1/4 of Eire is still English colony.

[irishdave]

My best friend is Irish and would jump in front of a train if I asked him to. JFK? He was a POS

Maybe he was but he was loved

[polychronopolous]

My best friend is Irish and would jump in front of a train if I asked him to. JFK? He was a POS

JFK was a piece of shit. How so?

[dj181]

the Scotch-Irish (who are basically Scots of the Protestant ilk) settled the american west, not the irish

also, plenty of US Presidents were of Scottish ancestry

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch-Irish_American

Andrew Jackson
    7th President, 1829-37: He was born in the predominantly Ulster-Scots Waxhaws area of South Carolina two years after his parents left Boneybefore, near Carrickfergus in County Antrim. A heritage centre in the village pays tribute to the legacy of 'Old Hickory', the People's President. Andrew Jackson then moved to Tennessee, where he began a prominent political and military career.
James Knox Polk
    11th President, 1845-49: His ancestors were among the first Ulster-Scots settlers, emigrating from Coleraine in 1680 to become a powerful political family in Mecklenburg County, North Carolina. He moved to Tennessee and became its governor before winning the presidency.
James Buchanan
    15th President, 1857-61: Born in a log cabin (which has been relocated to his old school in Mercersburg, Pennsylvania), 'Old Buck' cherished his origins: "My Ulster blood is a priceless heritage". His father was born in Ramelton in County Donegal, Ireland. The Buchanans were originally from Stirlingshire, Scotland where the ancestral home still stands.
Andrew Johnson
    17th President, 1865-69: His grandfather left Mounthill, near Larne in County Antrim around 1750 and settled in North Carolina. Andrew worked there as a tailor and ran a successful business in Greeneville, Tennessee, before being elected Vice-President. He became President following Abraham Lincoln's assassination.
Ulysses S. Grant[77]
    18th President, 1869-77: The home of his maternal great-grandfather, John Simpson, at Dergenagh, County Tyrone, is the location for an exhibition on the eventful life of the victorious Civil War commander who served two terms as President. Grant visited his ancestral homeland in 1878. The home of John Simpson still stands in County Tyrone.[78]
Chester A. Arthur
    21st President, 1881-85: His succession to the Presidency after the death of Garfield was the start of a quarter-century in which the White House was occupied by men of Ulster-Scots origins. His family left Dreen, near Cullybackey, County Antrim, in 1815. There is now an interpretive centre, alongside the Arthur Ancestral Home, devoted to his life and times.
Grover Cleveland
    22nd and 24th President, 1885-89 and 1893-97: Born in New Jersey, he was the maternal grandson of merchant Abner Neal, who emigrated from County Antrim in the 1790s. He is the only president to have served non-consecutive terms.
Benjamin Harrison
    23rd President, 1889-93: His mother, Elizabeth Irwin, had Ulster-Scots roots through her two great-grandfathers, James Irwin and William McDowell. Harrison was born in Ohio and served as a brigadier general in the Union Army before embarking on a career in Indiana politics which led to the White House.
William McKinley
    25th President, 1897-1901: Born in Ohio, the descendant of a farmer from Conagher, near Ballymoney, County Antrim, he was proud of his ancestry and addressed one of the national Scotch-Irish congresses held in the late 19th century. His second term as president was cut short by an assassin's bullet.
Theodore Roosevelt
    26th President, 1901-09: His mother, Mittie Bulloch, had Ulster Scots ancestors who emigrated from Glenoe, County Antrim, in May 1729. Roosevelt praised "Irish Presbyterians" as "a bold and hardy race."[79] However, he is also the man who said: "But a hyphenated American is not an American at all. This is just as true of the man who puts "native"* before the hyphen as of the man who puts German or Irish or English or French before the hyphen." [2] (*Roosevelt was referring to "nativists", not American Indians, in this context)
Woodrow Wilson
    28th President, 1913-21: Of Ulster-Scot descent on both sides of the family, his roots were very strong and dear to him. He was grandson of a printer from Dergalt, near Strabane, County Tyrone, whose former home is open to visitors.
Richard Nixon
    37th President, 1969-74: The Nixon ancestors left Ulster in the mid-18th century; the Quaker Milhous family ties were with County Antrim and County Kildare.

[irishdave]

the Scotch-Irish (who are basically Scots of the Protestant ilk) settled the american west, not the irish

also, plenty of US Presidents were of Scottish ancestry

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch-Irish_American

Andrew Jackson
    7th President, 1829-37: He was born in the predominantly Ulster-Scots Waxhaws area of South Carolina two years after his parents left Boneybefore, near Carrickfergus in County Antrim. A heritage centre in the village pays tribute to the legacy of 'Old Hickory', the People's President. Andrew Jackson then moved to Tennessee, where he began a prominent political and military career.
James Knox Polk
    11th President, 1845-49: His ancestors were among the first Ulster-Scots settlers, emigrating from Coleraine in 1680 to become a powerful political family in Mecklenburg County, North Carolina. He moved to Tennessee and became its governor before winning the presidency.
James Buchanan
    15th President, 1857-61: Born in a log cabin (which has been relocated to his old school in Mercersburg, Pennsylvania), 'Old Buck' cherished his origins: "My Ulster blood is a priceless heritage". His father was born in Ramelton in County Donegal, Ireland. The Buchanans were originally from Stirlingshire, Scotland where the ancestral home still stands.
Andrew Johnson
    17th President, 1865-69: His grandfather left Mounthill, near Larne in County Antrim around 1750 and settled in North Carolina. Andrew worked there as a tailor and ran a successful business in Greeneville, Tennessee, before being elected Vice-President. He became President following Abraham Lincoln's assassination.
Ulysses S. Grant[77]
    18th President, 1869-77: The home of his maternal great-grandfather, John Simpson, at Dergenagh, County Tyrone, is the location for an exhibition on the eventful life of the victorious Civil War commander who served two terms as President. Grant visited his ancestral homeland in 1878. The home of John Simpson still stands in County Tyrone.[78]
Chester A. Arthur
    21st President, 1881-85: His succession to the Presidency after the death of Garfield was the start of a quarter-century in which the White House was occupied by men of Ulster-Scots origins. His family left Dreen, near Cullybackey, County Antrim, in 1815. There is now an interpretive centre, alongside the Arthur Ancestral Home, devoted to his life and times.
Grover Cleveland
    22nd and 24th President, 1885-89 and 1893-97: Born in New Jersey, he was the maternal grandson of merchant Abner Neal, who emigrated from County Antrim in the 1790s. He is the only president to have served non-consecutive terms.
Benjamin Harrison
    23rd President, 1889-93: His mother, Elizabeth Irwin, had Ulster-Scots roots through her two great-grandfathers, James Irwin and William McDowell. Harrison was born in Ohio and served as a brigadier general in the Union Army before embarking on a career in Indiana politics which led to the White House.
William McKinley
    25th President, 1897-1901: Born in Ohio, the descendant of a farmer from Conagher, near Ballymoney, County Antrim, he was proud of his ancestry and addressed one of the national Scotch-Irish congresses held in the late 19th century. His second term as president was cut short by an assassin's bullet.
Theodore Roosevelt
    26th President, 1901-09: His mother, Mittie Bulloch, had Ulster Scots ancestors who emigrated from Glenoe, County Antrim, in May 1729. Roosevelt praised "Irish Presbyterians" as "a bold and hardy race."[79] However, he is also the man who said: "But a hyphenated American is not an American at all. This is just as true of the man who puts "native"* before the hyphen as of the man who puts German or Irish or English or French before the hyphen." [2] (*Roosevelt was referring to "nativists", not American Indians, in this context)
Woodrow Wilson
    28th President, 1913-21: Of Ulster-Scot descent on both sides of the family, his roots were very strong and dear to him. He was grandson of a printer from Dergalt, near Strabane, County Tyrone, whose former home is open to visitors.
Richard Nixon
    37th President, 1969-74: The Nixon ancestors left Ulster in the mid-18th century; the Quaker Milhous family ties were with County Antrim and County Kildare.

Bahahahaha the Scottish are nothing compared to the Irish. They never had as large an impact on America. GTFO, twink

[CalvinH]

Irish-bitch slapped repeatedly by the British but still think they are independent.

[bigmc]

My best friend is Irish and would jump in front of a train if I asked him to. JFK? He was a POS

why would you ask him to jump out a train 

is he james bond

[CalvinH]

Irish-America's cannon fodder for war.

[CalvinH]

Irish-England's cannon fodder for war.

[HockeyFightFan]

Irish-America's cannon fodder for war.

All poor white/black Americans who enlist = self-propelled human sandbags.

[Nails]

i had a few neat whiskey drinks at the 21th amendment bar in boston a few years back where JFK was known to pound booze when he was a senator in Mass

[Thespritz0]

Watch this guys:   

[Roger Bacon]

the Scotch-Irish (who are basically Scots of the Protestant ilk) settled the american west, not the irish

also, plenty of US Presidents were of Scottish ancestry

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch-Irish_American

Andrew Jackson
    7th President, 1829-37: He was born in the predominantly Ulster-Scots Waxhaws area of South Carolina two years after his parents left Boneybefore, near Carrickfergus in County Antrim. A heritage centre in the village pays tribute to the legacy of 'Old Hickory', the People's President. Andrew Jackson then moved to Tennessee, where he began a prominent political and military career.
James Knox Polk
    11th President, 1845-49: His ancestors were among the first Ulster-Scots settlers, emigrating from Coleraine in 1680 to become a powerful political family in Mecklenburg County, North Carolina. He moved to Tennessee and became its governor before winning the presidency.
James Buchanan
    15th President, 1857-61: Born in a log cabin (which has been relocated to his old school in Mercersburg, Pennsylvania), 'Old Buck' cherished his origins: "My Ulster blood is a priceless heritage". His father was born in Ramelton in County Donegal, Ireland. The Buchanans were originally from Stirlingshire, Scotland where the ancestral home still stands.
Andrew Johnson
    17th President, 1865-69: His grandfather left Mounthill, near Larne in County Antrim around 1750 and settled in North Carolina. Andrew worked there as a tailor and ran a successful business in Greeneville, Tennessee, before being elected Vice-President. He became President following Abraham Lincoln's assassination.
Ulysses S. Grant[77]
    18th President, 1869-77: The home of his maternal great-grandfather, John Simpson, at Dergenagh, County Tyrone, is the location for an exhibition on the eventful life of the victorious Civil War commander who served two terms as President. Grant visited his ancestral homeland in 1878. The home of John Simpson still stands in County Tyrone.[78]
Chester A. Arthur
    21st President, 1881-85: His succession to the Presidency after the death of Garfield was the start of a quarter-century in which the White House was occupied by men of Ulster-Scots origins. His family left Dreen, near Cullybackey, County Antrim, in 1815. There is now an interpretive centre, alongside the Arthur Ancestral Home, devoted to his life and times.
Grover Cleveland
    22nd and 24th President, 1885-89 and 1893-97: Born in New Jersey, he was the maternal grandson of merchant Abner Neal, who emigrated from County Antrim in the 1790s. He is the only president to have served non-consecutive terms.
Benjamin Harrison
    23rd President, 1889-93: His mother, Elizabeth Irwin, had Ulster-Scots roots through her two great-grandfathers, James Irwin and William McDowell. Harrison was born in Ohio and served as a brigadier general in the Union Army before embarking on a career in Indiana politics which led to the White House.
William McKinley
    25th President, 1897-1901: Born in Ohio, the descendant of a farmer from Conagher, near Ballymoney, County Antrim, he was proud of his ancestry and addressed one of the national Scotch-Irish congresses held in the late 19th century. His second term as president was cut short by an assassin's bullet.
Theodore Roosevelt
    26th President, 1901-09: His mother, Mittie Bulloch, had Ulster Scots ancestors who emigrated from Glenoe, County Antrim, in May 1729. Roosevelt praised "Irish Presbyterians" as "a bold and hardy race."[79] However, he is also the man who said: "But a hyphenated American is not an American at all. This is just as true of the man who puts "native"* before the hyphen as of the man who puts German or Irish or English or French before the hyphen." [2] (*Roosevelt was referring to "nativists", not American Indians, in this context)
Woodrow Wilson
    28th President, 1913-21: Of Ulster-Scot descent on both sides of the family, his roots were very strong and dear to him. He was grandson of a printer from Dergalt, near Strabane, County Tyrone, whose former home is open to visitors.
Richard Nixon
    37th President, 1969-74: The Nixon ancestors left Ulster in the mid-18th century; the Quaker Milhous family ties were with County Antrim and County Kildare.

Cool, read it all!!

Trust me, I'm proud!

 

[BIG AL MCKECHNIE]

People have to understand that Ireland is an Island not a country.
In the North we have Northern Ireland which is part of the UK. Good protestant people who we Scottish Orangemen are proud to march with under the glorious Protestant Orange Order. We are brothers across a small stretch of water.
Intelligent people who joined the Scots to become a force for invention and political achievement in the USA.

Then we have the Catholic downtrodden Republic of Ireland dwellers of the South or Eire. A backward race of inbred friends of the Roman Catholic cult. Poor victims of the world who terrorised the British Ulster for many year by receiving funding from misguided benefactors in the USA to finance their IRA activities. Trying to steal Ulster and make the good protestant citizens join their Irish Catholic cult.

[BigRo]

People have to understand that Ireland is an Island not a country.
In the North we have Northern Ireland which is part of the UK. Good protestant people who we Scottish Orangemen are proud to march with under the glorious Protestant Orange Order. We are brothers across a small stretch of water.
Intelligent people who joined the Scots to become a force for invention and political achievement in the USA.

Then we have the Catholic downtrodden Republic of Ireland dwellers of the South or Eire. A backward race of inbred friends of the Roman Catholic cult. Poor victims of the world who terrorised the British Ulster for many year by receiving funding from misguided benefactors in the USA to finance their IRA activities. Trying to steal Ulster and make the good protestant citizens join their Irish Catholic cult.

The real Ulster includes Donegal, thats the true Ulster.

[BIG AL MCKECHNIE]

what do you think will happen (in the unlikely probability) when Scotland votes to leave the UK?

I watched SNP Nicola Sturgeon of TV this morning talking about their white paper on independence.
What a crock of shit.    Everything depends on Scotland continuing to use the pound Sterling.  But the bank of England would have to allow it   And if they do agree then Scotland would not have control of it's own interest rates therefore does not have monetary policy economic tools.  How is this independence?

The Westminster government will allow this farce to go on for another 9 months then pull the rug out from Alex Salmond just before the vote by declaring that Sterling will not be allowed to be the currency for Scotland. Game over. Thank fuck. God save the Queen.

[Tito24]

remember this?

[BIG AL MCKECHNIE]

The real Ulster includes Donegal, thats the true Ulster.

Of course you are right. 3 other Irish states too but to the Orangemen NI is Ulster.
It also annoys the Tims /Papes / Fenians so it's all good. 

[_aj_]

Oh God. Another intra-isles slapping fight. I keep having to ask my Irish wife WTF you are talking about.

On point: JFK was a tax-cutting, NRA member who's father bought his election by making sure that every person that had died in Chicago in the previous 150 years "voted" in the '60 election. He was a political man, but a naïf as a CinC. He almost blundered into war with the soviets twice, and was consistently hoodwinked by Kruschev at every turn. The only thing that cemented him as a liberal icon was the bullet that took half his head off. Had he finished out his first term, he would have been a lame single-term president with no legacy, like Carter. It was his death that led to LBJ packing the courts and passing almost every liberal wet dream.

Irish or not, he was a POS.

[BIG AL MCKECHNIE]

I always thought Kennedy was shot once and the bullet went thru his head.  But I watched some footage of a reconstruction of the event and it showed that a bullet passed thru his back and into the guy sitting in front of him. Is this true?  Were there two bullet holes?

Kennedy was just a common man who rose to power by his own efforts. The American dream.
Just because his dad was a bootlegging, millionaire, British ambassador, manipulator with friends in high and sleazy places did not influence JFK's election victory. He did it on his own. While smoking, drinking and double teaming Marlin Munroe.  What a guy.