Galeniko, How is that Kidney doing?

[Bodybuilder Lex Reeves]

LOL actually a surprisingly brilliant point right here. Seriously, this was a good one.

You must be a real moron.

[Big Chiro Flex]

TA: In shorter words, suppression is due to drug of choice, duration on the drug, as well as the good ole generic factor of how you respond to it and whether your HPTA gets obliterated or it rolls with the punches.

[The True Adonis]

I understand that pharmacology is not your strong point, just know that you can't over simplify things to fit your pre cnveived agenda here. It's the equivalent of me saying that I can cook meat in a microwave because it does the same thing as a stove top or a BBQ >>>it cooks it.

You are getting angry.  That was not my intention.  I know I am correct, but for some reason you don`t want it to be so.  

Using Steroids=All Drugs

Not Using Anything Ever Again or Never using from the start=Not all Drugs.


Its really that easy.

[Rascal full]

I appreciate anybody on these boards that is prepared to be honest and issue advice based on their experiences. Galeniko was intelligent enough to get his body checked out and listen to the results. You can't knock a man for that.

[no one]

The way I see it, if someone is using steroids, they are all drugs until they get off completely.  There is no way around this.  The body is not naturally producing anything whilst on steroids so it has to be all drugs.

what does it matter to you what someone else does to their body?

what does it matter to you if they are 'all drugs' or natural?

nobody owes you an explanation for anything they do or why they do it.

[Big Chiro Flex]

You must be a real moron.

I can out pose you any day of the week son. Seriously. Pick your favorite Olympia contest, name your favorite athlete, I will out perform any man woman or child trying to keep up with me, pose-to-pose.

What you?

[The True Adonis]

what does it matter to you what someone else does to their body?

what does it matter to you if they are 'all drugs' or natural?

nobody owes you an explanation for anything they do or why they do it.

1. I think all drug laws should abolished and that people should have complete personal freedom to do as they wish to themselves.

2. Its doesn`t matter at all, but that doesn`t mean I can`t have an opinion on the matter.

3. I am not asking for anyone to provide me with anything.  I don`t care if someone does it because they are insecure, bored, or want an easier way to get results or whatever reason.  I don`t even care if they kill themselves in the process or not.  That is their choice.

With all that said, I enjoy the discussion.  Its no reason to get angry.

[Hulkotron]

LOL actually a surprisingly brilliant point right here. Seriously, this was a good one.

x2 I wish to comment on this as well 

Good luck galeniko being natural isn't so bad you still look better than 99% of our disgusting population.

Also gal is in no way shape or form a bro-scientist. Most of what he posts is very accurate/intelligent imho.

[Wolfox]

I would go further than TA: Galestinko should give the board the courtesy of toning down the volume of broscientific screeds on all drug-related manners until it is clear that he is a responsible steward of his own body.

Pretty much.

[Big Chiro Flex]

You are getting angry.  That was not my intention.  I know I am correct, but for some reason you don`t want it to be so.  

Using Steroids=All Drugs

Not Using Anything Ever Again or Never using from the start=Not all Drugs.


Its really that easy.

 

I'm not angry? I find this discussion funny, quite the opponent of angry.

It is noteworthy that you can not address points directly though and instead go off on tangents and ignore the facts of the argument. You are "missing the point" of the discussion. I belive it's because you simply can't grasp the concept, which is fine. Just thought I would interject on someone talking nonsense when it's obvious this stuff is way over your head broski.

[Wolfox]

I like you, but you were all drugs and you also took to extreme measures to get lean.  Its not sustainable in the long run nor is it good for yours or anyones health.

 He can't handle being natural. Doesn't have the mental or physical strength.

[macos]

I can out pose you any day of the week son. Seriously. Pick your favorite Olympia contest, name your favorite athlete, I will out perform any man woman or child trying to keep up with me, pose-to-pose.

What you?

No need for that bro. That dude doesnt even lift....

[The True Adonis]

I'm not angry? I find this discussion funny, quite the opponent of angry.

It is noteworthy that you can not address points directly though and instead go off on tangents and ignore the facts of the argument. You are "missing the point" of the discussion. I belive it's because you simply can't grasp the concept, which is fine. Just thought I would interject on someone talking nonsense when it's obvious this stuff is way over your head broski.

I am not wrong though.

The point is, until you stop using drugs for good, you will remain, respectfully, ALL DRUGS.  Its not a difficult concept to grasp.

[Big Chiro Flex]

I am not wrong though.

The point is, until you stop using drugs for good, you will remain, respectfully, ALL DRUGS.  Its not a difficult concept to grasp.

In the mind of true Adonis, that law holds true 

One long winded mans opinion, nothing more nothing less.

[The True Adonis]

Furthermore, why does everyone take my expression, "ALL DRUGS" as being negative.  It simply is what it is.  Its a choice.  It has detriments and that is negative, but the choice itself is simply a choice.  (of course it may be negative if someone other than yourself, cares about your overall well being in the future and you disregard their wishes or input, but that is none of my business)

[Conker]

An anavar cycle or comparable steroid will not shut you down fully, it will suppress you to a degree.

A very high dose testosterone  cycle prob will suppress you to the point a layman would refer to it as "shutdown."

These are 2 different steroids with differing effects on your HPTA.

But you can also FORCE your own production through peptide hormones which will make your body produce its own test no matter what.

I encourage you to research all of these terms yourself to better educate your yourself.

Never heard anything about these...What are these "peptide hormones" called?

I know you have peps that force natural GH release, but never heard of any that can do the same for test.

[Wolfox]

Gal has admitted to being a steroid ABUSER in the past. Damage has been done, and for what? He doesn't even compete nor does he even look like he competes. Then doing a ultra low cal psmf keto diet for way too long without sufficient breaks  

[Bodybuilder Lex Reeves]

I can out pose you any day of the week son. Seriously. Pick your favorite Olympia contest, name your favorite athlete, I will out perform any man woman or child trying to keep up with me, pose-to-pose.

What you?

Well if you are trying to pose as an asshole you are doing a great job.

STEROIDSR4LOSERS

[Big Chiro Flex]

Never heard anything about these...What are these "peptide hormones" called?

I know you have peps that force natural GH release, but never heard of any that can do the same for test.

HCG, a fertility drug, blasts your nuts to produce LH (some FSH too I think?)

Common practice for PCT for a lotta guys. Really amazing drug actually for this, also for restoring sperm count.

[Big Chiro Flex]

Well if you are trying to pose as an asshole you are doing a great job.

STEROIDSR4LOSERS

You're one of my favorite gimmicks on here if that means anything 

[macos]

HCG, a fertility drug, blasts your nuts to produce LH (some FSH too I think?)

Common practice for PCT for a lotta guys. Really amazing drug actually for this, also for restoring sperm count.

i read somewhere that too much of hcg can desensitize the leydig cells?

[The True Adonis]

Gal has admitted to being a steroid ABUSER in the past. Damage has been done, and for what? He doesn't even compete nor does he even look like he competes. Then doing a ultra low cal psmf keto diet for way too long without sufficient breaks  

From what I gather he does it because he likes the feeling it gives him, uses it to increase his appeal to women, and he enjoys life while on.  Nothing wrong with any of that at all.  If he can do all of those things without steroids, that may be optimal.  Or if he can find a balance between using and not using instead of going full bore.  Its all up to him to decide.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Gal I hope your health is fine.

In the end if you don't have your health , you don't have anything.

[Big Chiro Flex]

i read somewhere that too much of hcg can desensitize the leydig cells?

Yep, keep it under something like 15 days (double check this.)

You don't wanna run it constantly. It's a means to an end: respark your own production post cycle. After like 14-21 days period, you fall into desensitizatioN.

[Mr Nobody]

Gal I hope your health is fine.

In the end if you don't have your health , you don't have anything.

True right there.