why do Christian anti steroid ppl pretend the bible says steroids are wrong?

[anabolichalo]

there is no such thing in the bible

[HockeyFightFan]

there is no such thing in the bible

Fuck off gimmick.

[anabolichalo]

Fuck off gimmick.

fuck off dana

[HockeyFightFan]

fuck off dana

Fuck off gimmick

[ProudVirgin69]

You were already borne of God's own image, distorting that image would be desecrating God... bodybuilding with steroids is both prideful and vain--both mortal sins.

Or something like that....I don't know

[phreak]

You were already borne of God's own image, distorting that image would be desecrating God... bodybuilding with steroids is both prideful and vain--both mortal sins.

Or something like that....I don't know

Have you seen the Sistine Chapel, the creation of Adam? God is wider than Heath, and has good separation. Legit kigs all the way.

[anabolichalo]

Fuck off gimmick

[The Showstoppa]

You were already borne of God's own image, distorting that image would be desecrating God... bodybuilding with steroids is both prideful and vain--both mortal sins.

Or something like that....I don't know

But wouldnt bodybuilding, by definition, be prideful and vain?  Forget whether juice is involved or not.

[Man of Steel]

I agree with you and it is ridiculous.  As a believers we're entrusted with the whole of creation and that which is developed threrein.   I've never grasped the link that some believers make between taking advantage of medical technology and therefore having a lack of faith LOL....feels like a nonsequitor to me.

I also like how the Quran very plainly states the position on medical technology and science.  

The bible isn't quite as straightforward as that LOL.  Paul mentions drinking a bit of wine to settle a sour stomach and there are references to injuries being treated with the medicine of the time.   Heck, gospel writer Luke was a companion of the apostle Paul, but before that he was a doctor.  He became a Christian yet he still remained a doctor.

Within the book of Galatians Paul notes the sin of sorcery which is rooted in the greek term pharmakeia (pharmacy).  This isn't indicating that medicines in general are bad.  The context is about sorcery and witchcraft and avoiding making or partaking in elicit drugs (potions) for purposes of engaging in witchcraft, the occult or abusing drugs in general for non-medical purposes and allowing it consume a person creating addictions that oppose God's will for our lives.  

I think folks misinterpret these passages of scripture, but again I agree that the behavior is ridiculous.  If my kid skins her knee she's gettin some ointment, a bandage, a little tylenol and a hug LOL!

Galatians 5:16-25

Living by the Spirit’s Power
16 So I say, let the Holy Spirit guide your lives. Then you won’t be doing what your sinful nature craves. 17 The sinful nature wants to do evil, which is just the opposite of what the Spirit wants. And the Spirit gives us desires that are the opposite of what the sinful nature desires. These two forces are constantly fighting each other, so you are not free to carry out your good intentions. 18 But when you are directed by the Spirit, you are not under obligation to the law of Moses.

19 When you follow the desires of your sinful nature, the results are very clear: sexual immorality, impurity, lustful pleasures, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hostility, quarreling, jealousy, outbursts of anger, selfish ambition, dissension, division, 21 envy, drunkenness, wild parties, and other sins like these. Let me tell you again, as I have before, that anyone living that sort of life will not inherit the Kingdom of God.

22 But the Holy Spirit produces this kind of fruit in our lives: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, and self-control. There is no law against these things!

24 Those who belong to Christ Jesus have nailed the passions and desires of their sinful nature to his cross and crucified them there. 25 Since we are living by the Spirit, let us follow the Spirit’s leading in every part of our lives

[anabolichalo]

But wouldnt bodybuilding, by definition, be prideful and vain?  Forget whether juice is involved or not.

any form of "self improvement" is vanity


steroids, bodybuilding, career, power, nice clothes, haircuts, cars....................

[phreak]

But wouldnt bodybuilding, by definition, be prideful and vain?  Forget whether juice is involved or not.

The body is a temple, and clearly god wants megachurches.

[SF1900]

Galatians 5:16-25

Living by the Spirit’s Power
16 So I say, let the Holy Spirit guide your lives. Then you won’t be doing what your sinful nature craves. 17 The sinful nature wants to do evil, which is just the opposite of what the Spirit wants. And the Spirit gives us desires that are the opposite of what the sinful nature desires. These two forces are constantly fighting each other, so you are not free to carry out your good intentions. 18 But when you are directed by the Spirit, you are not under obligation to the law of Moses.

19 When you follow the desires of your sinful nature, the results are very clear: sexual immorality, impurity, lustful pleasures, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hostility, quarreling, jealousy, outbursts of anger, selfish ambition, dissension, division, 21 envy, drunkenness, wild parties, and other sins like these. Let me tell you again, as I have before, that anyone living that sort of life will not inherit the Kingdom of God.

22 But the Holy Spirit produces this kind of fruit in our lives: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, and self-control. There is no law against these things!

24 Those who belong to Christ Jesus have nailed the passions and desires of their sinful nature to his cross and crucified them there. 25 Since we are living by the Spirit, let us follow the Spirit’s leading in every part of our lives

More utter bullshit from a book of fairy tales.

[anabolichalo]

Did the African move out? Last u posted, her suitcases were packed.

came home early today because i went to a lawyer to cancel our agreement of living together, he'll take it to court tomorrow, then i can proceed to get her evicted



suitcases not in place anymore, probably loaded in the car



expect her to leave any moment


after she is evicted i can pursue full custody of anabolichalo jr. my lawyer said


i'm gonna go for it


if i dont get it at least i will have tried

[Man of Steel]

More utter bullshit from a book of fairy tales.

He posed a question about scripture, I gave an answer....that was it. 

[anabolichalo]

He posed a question, I gave an answer....that was it.

HI friend


that is what dennis l bates uses in his musclemissions concept as wel


SORCERY


how is steroids sorcery but anti biotics, cancer medication, etc etc etc not sorcery?


ANSWER THAT


truth is the anti steroid brigade is just interpreting the scriptures to suit their agenda

sorcery

[SF1900]

The fact of the matter is that lifting weights is against the bible. Religious thumpers like MOS like to pick and choose what parts of the bible they want to follow and those parts they want to ignore. They pick those parts that fit their agenda and ignore those parts that contradict their agenda.

At the same time, as with many things in this life, bodybuilding, if taken to the extreme, can become an idol. Eventually, a point is reached where there is no true value in adding more muscle. In fact, too much muscle can be hazardous to your health, as it puts additional strain on the heart. Bodybuilding/weightlifting can become an addiction and/or obsession. While this is much more often an issue with men, it can be an issue for women as well. Striving for bigger and stronger muscles, taken to the extreme, is nothing but vanity (1 Samuel 16:7; Ecclesiastes 1:2; 1 Peter 3:4). Once we allow our physical appearance to become more important than our relationship with God, it has become an idol (1 John 5:21).

I suspect that MOS is a sinner. I mean he posts on a bodybuilding forum, looks at men with big muscles all day long, and from what I gather, is a pretty big guy. He takes it to the extreme, according to Religious standards. But of course he will deny the above paragraph and not accept the fact that every day he goes into the gym he is a sinner.

[ProudVirgin69]

He posed a question about scripture, I gave an answer....that was it.

Whoa whoa whoa..... you found one word in the verse, "sorcery", and somehow concluded that it would refer to steroids.  Hardly convincing.

[Man of Steel]

HI friend


that is what dennis l bates uses in his musclemissions concept as wel


SORCERY


how is steroids sorcery but anti biotics, cancer medication, etc etc etc not sorcery?


ANSWER THAT


truth is the anti steroid brigade is just interpreting the scriptures to suit their agenda

sorcery

It's about inappropriate use of drugs that can create addictions and harm our bodies, but the core is about the drugs becoming an idol of sorts in that your realiance is on them and not God.  Much like money, in and of itself money is great.  It's the love of money that potentially leads to the defiance of God's will for our lives that becomes harmful.  By themselves, drugs and money are harmless.

[SF1900]

It's about inappropriate use of drugs that can create addictions and harm our bodies, but the core is about the drugs becoming an idol of sorts in that your realiance is on them and not God.  Much like money, in and of itself money is great.  It's the love of money that potentially leads to the defiance of God's will for our lives that becomes harmful.  By themselves, drugs and money are harmless.

WRONG!! Read my above post. Even without steroids, bodybuilding can lead to sin because of vanity.

Stop misinterpreting the bible to fit your agenda and anti-religious lifestyle.

[Man of Steel]

WRONG!! Read my above post. Even without steroids, bodybuilding can lead to sin because of vanity.

Stop misinterpreting the bible to fit your agenda and anti-religious lifestyle.

To be honest, I don't know what you're talking about.

[Man of Steel]

To be honest, I don't know what you're talking about.

Ok I read your post above....sorry, didn't see it.  Sure, bb can definitely become an idol of sorts.

Yes, I am a sinner.  Yes, I have created idols in my life.  I don't idolize bb or bbs though.  In my life God is first....real simple stuff. 

Exercise and lifting weights isn't harmful at all....it's part of healthy lifestyle.  It's about how you prioritize things. 

[_aj_]

came home early today because i went to a lawyer to cancel our agreement of living together, he'll take it to court tomorrow, then i can proceed to get her evicted



suitcases not in place anymore, probably loaded in the car



expect her to leave any moment


after she is evicted i can pursue full custody of anabolichalo jr. my lawyer said


i'm gonna go for it


if i dont get it at least i will have tried

The judge might want to hear a plan for how you plan to care for your child. I am pretty sure that flexing "truth" and "justice" in his face and muttering about "18 inches gonna get the whores" isn't what he is looking for.

What IS your plan here? (Trying to stay inside the increasingly ephemeral gimmick-reality)

[anabolichalo]

The judge might want to hear a plan for how you plan to care for your child. I am pretty sure that flexing "truth" and "justice" in his face and muttering about "18 inches gonna get the whores" isn't what he is looking for.

What IS your plan here? (Trying to stay inside the increasingly ephemeral gimmick-reality)

i have ellaborately explained the plan


follow the story moron,

[SF1900]

Anabolichalo, youre going to hell. Youre obsessed with your body, go to clubs, and take roids. Youre on a one way ticket to hell.

[OTHstrong]

The fact of the matter is that lifting weights is against the bible. Religious thumpers like MOS like to pick and choose what parts of the bible they want to follow and those parts they want to ignore. They pick those parts that fit their agenda and ignore those parts that contradict their agenda.

At the same time, as with many things in this life, bodybuilding, if taken to the extreme, can become an idol. Eventually, a point is reached where there is no true value in adding more muscle. In fact, too much muscle can be hazardous to your health, as it puts additional strain on the heart. Bodybuilding/weightlifting can become an addiction and/or obsession. While this is much more often an issue with men, it can be an issue for women as well. Striving for bigger and stronger muscles, taken to the extreme, is nothing but vanity (1 Samuel 16:7; Ecclesiastes 1:2; 1 Peter 3:4). Once we allow our physical appearance to become more important than our relationship with God, it has become an idol (1 John 5:21).

I suspect that MOS is a sinner. I mean he posts on a bodybuilding forum, looks at men with big muscles all day long, and from what I gather, is a pretty big guy. He takes it to the extreme, according to Religious standards. But of course he will deny the above paragraph and not accept the fact that every day he goes into the gym he is a sinner.

you are out to lunch son, lifting weights a sin  lmao

and do not give me this vanity and pride therefor it is a sin cause even shaving your face falls under that. Like how far to you take thi.

....HOWEVER, anabalchalo, you are wrong, taking juice is a sin but not a sin for everyone.