Did Dorian retire just before "Palumboism" had a chance to set in?

[anabolichalo]

he has big chest now

but arms are cziurlok territory

[ProudVirgin69]

I am not natural a pic of me would be useless, and I am not that lean lol...Would be an immediate flame fest. I sit at around 15% bf. Not proud of it, but it works for me I am on the quest to get to 275-300lbs as a powerlifter. I have my goals and being 8% bodyfat is not currently one of them.

Cool, everybody has different goals and I respect that.  HOWEVER, its not good practice to talk shit about someone else's physique if you're not willing to post a pic of your own.

As far as the 7 billion people thing, sure, there's no way to know for sure.  You've probably seen the photo of young Dorian as a skinhead, holding a beer, right?  He looked like shit in that photo, certainly not as if he was exceptionally gifted when it came to building muscle.

[ESFitness]

who gives a fuck?

who the fuck uses "palumboism" anyways?

how about a term for the losers who post threads like these? "skinny-bitter-twinkism"

[Shockwave]

who gives a fuck?

who the fuck uses "palumboism" anyways?

how about a term for the losers who post threads like these? "skinny-bitter-twinkism"

serioisly.... dudes retired, has a hot wife, still big and lean, looks great compared to big ron who looks like a lump of shit (literally).... yet everyone still bitches.

Yates owns minds.

[wild willie]

Dorian is a smart guy. He retired in time. Compare him to his successor (Ronnie) now.

Distended belly (because of slin abuse) can't be entirely fixed afterwards, but limited to a minimum.

Juicing 1g together with some quality gh allows a guy like this to stay impressive in most people's eyes.

He ain't weighing 300lb, not even 240lb anymore. Smart boy.

dorian stepped on the scale for a video and weighed close to 260.....check it out on youtube......maybe 2 years ago.

[Shockwave]

dorian stepped on the scale for a video and weighed close to 260.....check it out on youtube......maybe 2 years ago.

yes he did. And he looks better now IMHO. Dude is still massive.
people just love to hate Doz.

[wes]

yes he did. And he looks better now IMHO. Dude is still massive.
people just love to hate Doz.

I was never a huge Yates fan,but he does look in far better condition today than most of the guys from his era........and this shit don`t get no easier as time goes on.

[Dago_Joe]

Lots of Doz and Halo haters out there.  Doz was the fucking man for the years he was Mr. O.  No one can take that away from him.  Halo looks fucking great for being on such a low dosage of gear.  There are guys who use tons more who don't look even close to that good.  He is a good example of what can realistically be done with low dosages and consistency in training and diet.  Thumbs up for Halo. 

[dogbowl]

yah, dorian is on gear there in the very young pic.

those veins dont pop out like that on a natty.

This shoulder veins theory is bs.  He's (probably) posing after a work out.  Veins pop up all over the place, even in naturals.

[galeniko]

This shoulder veins theory is bs.  He's (probably) posing after a work out.  Veins pop up all over the place, even in naturals.

ok "dan duchaine",thx for the heads up

do you subscribve to lay norter newsletters too?

[TheShape]

those veins dont pop out like that on a natty.

As a natural I have huge cephalic veins in my arms. That statement is invalid.

[galeniko]

As a natural I have huge cephalic veins in my arms. That statement is invalid.

yah and what else you got?maybe a picture to see the phytons?


listen, try to pay real close attention instead of putting words in my mouth.

i didnt say the veins are the clue.

i said the shoulder veins popping while the arms are covered in steroid bloat.

[dogbowl]

ok "dan duchaine",thx for the heads up

do you subscribve to lay norter newsletters too?

No, but i am a natural with an apparently impossible physique. 

[dogbowl]

i said the shoulder veins popping while the arms are covered in steroid bloat.

You're just seeing what you want to see.   What bloat?  He has arm veins popping too.  Are we even talking about the same picture? (Green-ish shorts with the drawstring?)

[TheShape]

yah and what else you got?maybe a picture to see the phytons?


listen, try to pay real close attention instead of putting words in my mouth.

i didnt say the veins are the clue.

i said the shoulder veins popping while the arms are covered in steroid bloat.

I also get shoulder veins after a hard workout, even chest ones. Still invalid.

[galeniko]

haha lets see those pics.nos eriosu lets see

[galeniko]

my goodness the natties here have some menstrual breakdowns,jesus, so you achieved what you think looks like that beginning shot of yates(lets see the pics the we will see it its about the same).no shit, after years you managed to get there.

ever occured to you that it took him much much less time to get there?

and if youre natural, you dont know first hand what cosmetic changes steroids do,theres some very typical changes.


ok, lets see the pics, lets first establish with what level of delusions we dealing with here

[TheShape]

haha lets see those pics.nos eriosu lets see

Best I can do, just taken.

[galeniko]

Best I can do, just taken.

hey if i ever need toothpicks, is it possible to rent your arms?


i dont think this comes close to yates in that pic, neither conditioning nor size.

but you look good for nattie, all good.

serious, would have to be same pose,and obviously shirtless.

[TheShape]

hey if i ever need toothpicks, is it possible to rent your arms?

Someday I'll cross the darkside and get all the girls. 

[galeniko]

Someday I'll cross the darkside and get all the girls. 

btw this is genral joke ,not thrown at you, when ppl say i have a vein on shoulder too, well, so did amy winehouse

[TheShape]

btw this is genral joke ,not thrown at you, when ppl say i have a vein on shoulder too, well, so did amy winehouse

Jokes/sarcasm don't translate well in writing, but I'm afraid alot of guys on here don't know that.

[galeniko]

Jokes/sarcasm don't translate well in writing, but I'm afraid alot of guys on here don't know that.

nbtw the simplest solutoon to this would be to ask dorian himself.

when no camera is filming him,maybe.

i asked my frend who recently seen him, did youa sk him about drugs and diet,he said i didnt want to bother him, we were in a restarant.

fuck , i would have aproached that totaly different

[honest]

easier to believe bodybuilding is all drugs than  to question your own genetics for the sport, genetics count for everything, guys who tried to overcome their genetics with mega dosing are dropping like flies. I have met both Kovacs and Nasser and discussed usage, they used a lot more for a lot longer than everyone. Milos gets a bad wrap but I can tell you he used half what Nasser used mg wise Insulin wise, he was much more scientific, Dorian was a genetic freak who took over the years an ever increasing amount of steroids to encourage further growth but mg wise, there are guys on this site doing more and are under 200 in shape.

[galeniko]

easier to believe bodybuilding is all drugs than  to question your own genetics for the sport, genetics count for everything, guys who tried to overcome their genetics with mega dosing are dropping like flies. I have met both Kovacs and Nasser and discussed usage, they used a lot more for a lot longer than everyone. Milos gets a bad wrap but I can tell you he used half what Nasser used mg wise Insulin wise, he was much more scientific, Dorian was a genetic freak who took over the years an ever increasing amount of steroids to encourage further growth but mg wise, there are guys on this site doing more and are under 200 in shape.

how much did milos use?

realy curious, dont care much for the rest.