Men who are physically strong are more likely to have right wing political views

[The Ugly]

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You want to talk outrageous prices.  Here is what the US military spent on ONE BOLT for an old Hummer.

How is that even possible? Aren't government entities supposed to put contracting jobs up for bid? Surely someone would step up and supply a less expensive bolt.

[Option D]

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You want to talk outrageous prices.  Here is what the US military spent on ONE BOLT for an old Hummer.

Speechless.

[Las Vegas]

The True Adonis firing on all twelve cylinders in this thread. Swiss watch-like.

[The True Adonis]

How is that even possible? Aren't government entities supposed to put contracting jobs up for bid? Surely someone would step up and supply a less expensive bolt.

Sure, they might do that, but it takes extra paper work.  Its not necessary though since it will be paid for anyways.

Jezebelles parents were both high level government contractors by the way.  Specifically for fighter planes and the V-22 and other aircraft.  They are retired and get a large pension for the rest of their lives, they also still receive government contract work and its hilarious what they make for what they do.

[The True Adonis]

This is a good watch for anyone who is interested in Government Contractors and how they spend money.

[Option D]

Mindblown


Its crazy because you know it happens on some level. It happens at all levels.
But you never think its as bad as it really is...

$54 bucks for a screw. How does this go unoticed.

[Voice of Doom]

How is that even possible? Aren't government entities supposed to put contracting jobs up for bid? Surely someone would step up and supply a less expensive bolt.

Maybe what we need is another bigger government that can reign in the excesses of the current government.  That would surely stop all this crony-capitalismoligarchy.   

[Voice of Doom]

Sure, they might do that, but it takes extra paper work.  Its not necessary though since it will be paid for anyways.

Jezebelles parents were both high level government contractors by the way.  Specifically for fighter planes and the V-22 and other aircraft.  They are retired and get a large pension for the rest of their lives, they also still receive government contract work and its hilarious what they make for what they do.

ah...now it makes sense why you argue for socialism...cause you've got a financial interest in it   .  If you were just honest about your selfish desire to get things easy then we could do away with 'moral' high ground socialists try to take.

[The True Adonis]

Mindblown


Its crazy because you know it happens on some level. It happens at all levels.
But you never think its as bad as it really is...

$54 bucks for a screw. How does this go unoticed.

Oh its noticed and its standard protocol.  Just think what parts on a F-15 cost, or a Globemaster. The Supply Officer in charge is not worried about cost.  Its not his job to do so.  His job is logistics and making sure the correct parts go to the correct place and no order is left unfilled.

[The True Adonis]

ah...now it makes sense why you argue for socialism...cause you've got a financial interest in it   .  If you were just honest about your selfish desire to get things easy then we could do away with 'moral' high ground socialists try to take.

Socialism for the rich, Capitalism for the poor is what the United States has been built on.  Is this news to you?

[The Ugly]

Maybe what we need is another bigger government that can reign in the excesses of the current government.  That would surely stop all this crony-capitalismoligarchy.   

Wasn't suggesting that at all. But you're cool with a 45 dollar bolt?

[dr.chimps]

Wasn't suggesting that at all. But you're cool with a 45 dollar bolt?

I remember during Reagan`s watch the $800 toilet seat. Good to see things have changed.   

[Voice of Doom]

Wasn't suggesting that at all. But you're cool with a 45 dollar bolt?

Absolutely not.  I was being sarcastic.  The left will have you believe that $45 bolts and $1000 toilet seats are the work of evil capitalist while conveniently ignoring that the root of the problem is because the government has the power to bestow these contracts.  My joke was that the corrupt government needed a bigger more corrupt government to keep it in check.  The left live under the delusion that only government can check the power of big business.  They fail to understand that big government is the enabler of big business and monopolies.

If you were a businessman and the government offered you a no-bid contract where you could charge $45 for a bolt that costs you 20c would you not take it?  Of course you would!  You'd be a fool not too.  The government can pay that kind of money because it possesses a monopoly on those contracts and can use force to tax the citizenry to pay for it.

I think socialism for the rich is as reprehensible as socialism for the poor.  The greed of the poor is not morally superior to the greed of the rich...that's where the morality of the 'parties' fail.   They both use the government to exert force, violence and/or the threat of violence to enrich themselves at your hard earned capital.

Both are appalling to be labeled as 'civilized'.

[polychronopolous]

Sounds like we need about 100 nooses for the Senate and 435 for the House and let's start from scratch again.

[Shockwave]

Sounds like we need about 100 nooses for the Senate and 435 for the House and let's start from scratch again.

reported to DHS and FBI for being an anti government extremist/evil constitution supporter.

[Parker]

Absolutely not.  I was being sarcastic.  The left will have you believe that $45 bolts and $1000 toilet seats are the work of evil capitalist while conveniently ignoring that the root of the problem is because the government has the power to bestow these contracts.  My joke was that the corrupt government needed a bigger more corrupt government to keep it in check.  The left live under the delusion that only government can check the power of big business.  They fail to understand that big government is the enabler of big business and monopolies.

If you were a businessman and the government offered you a no-bid contract where you could charge $45 for a bolt that costs you 20c would you not take it?  Of course you would!  You'd be a fool not too.  The government can pay that kind of money because it possesses a monopoly on those contracts and can use force to tax the citizenry to pay for it.

I think socialism for the rich is as reprehensible as socialism for the poor.  The greed of the poor is not morally superior to the greed of the rich...that's where the morality of the 'parties' fail.   They both use the government to exert force, violence and/or the threat of violence to enrich themselves at your hard earned capital.

Both are appalling to be labeled as 'civilized'.

amen...

[NarcissisticDeity]

Absolutely not.  I was being sarcastic.  The left will have you believe that $45 bolts and $1000 toilet seats are the work of evil capitalist while conveniently ignoring that the root of the problem is because the government has the power to bestow these contracts.  My joke was that the corrupt government needed a bigger more corrupt government to keep it in check.  The left live under the delusion that only government can check the power of big business.  They fail to understand that big government is the enabler of big business and monopolies.

If you were a businessman and the government offered you a no-bid contract where you could charge $45 for a bolt that costs you 20c would you not take it?  Of course you would!  You'd be a fool not too.  The government can pay that kind of money because it possesses a monopoly on those contracts and can use force to tax the citizenry to pay for it.

I think socialism for the rich is as reprehensible as socialism for the poor.  The greed of the poor is not morally superior to the greed of the rich...that's where the morality of the 'parties' fail.   They both use the government to exert force, violence and/or the threat of violence to enrich themselves at your hard earned capital.

Both are appalling to be labeled as 'civilized'.

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[shootfighter1]

The same inflated prices are seen throughout the federal system guys, not just the military.  I worked for the federal government for several years (as a contractor).  Everything we did was 2-3 times as expensive as it could be bid out to outside contractors.  I saw this repeatedly, hit us when we bid a couple things out but then they decided it needed to be done by the government workers.  Federal workers get great pensions, many can retire early and then keep working.  Guess what...that is our tax money supporting them the rest of their lives.  None of us get taxpayer pensions.  Everyone that works hard and provides value deserves a good living but big government is not efficient.

[Las Vegas]

Absolutely not.  I was being sarcastic.  The left will have you believe that $45 bolts and $1000 toilet seats are the work of evil capitalist while conveniently ignoring that the root of the problem is because the government has the power to bestow these contracts.  My joke was that the corrupt government needed a bigger more corrupt government to keep it in check.  The left live under the delusion that only government can check the power of big business.  They fail to understand that big government is the enabler of big business and monopolies.

If you were a businessman and the government offered you a no-bid contract where you could charge $45 for a bolt that costs you 20c would you not take it?  Of course you would!  You'd be a fool not too.  The government can pay that kind of money because it possesses a monopoly on those contracts and can use force to tax the citizenry to pay for it.

I think socialism for the rich is as reprehensible as socialism for the poor.  The greed of the poor is not morally superior to the greed of the rich...that's where the morality of the 'parties' fail.   They both use the government to exert force, violence and/or the threat of violence to enrich themselves at your hard earned capital.

Both are appalling to be labeled as 'civilized'.

Not sure I follow...can you give some more on this...talking about possible consequences from each, etc.

[polychronopolous]

We need old school, 1890's Capitalism back in this damn country.

[Tapeworm]

Military grade specifications probably require a level of quality control that produces sharply decreasing returns in quality appreciation per dollar spent, but if soldiers were dying due to equipment failure you'd be calling for the blood of the people who made a faulty bolt.

If you think $45 is a lot, go institute and record strict QC measures at every stage of production from metallurgy analysis to cut thread surface finish.  The end product might be only marginally better than what you'd get at the hardware store but collecting the data to present to your client as per their requirement is where the money goes.

The relationship between product cost and product quality isn't linear.  Neither is cost vs quality assurance.  People's dissatisfaction generally comes from thinking that something that costs 50x as much should be 50x as good.  It doesn't work that way.

[forillagorilla]

Lefty Anarchist


And from what I hear, Arnold was never that strong.  Arnold is the typical right wing type of guy who wants other people to THINK he is strong.  Right Wingers will do anything to persuade people they are tough guys, even go as far to release media reports on pseudo intellectual and highly flawed studies claiming right wingers are tough.

ANd seriously, has anyone checked out your average politician, pathetically physically weak specimens the lot of them, as is the majority of the general population.  Anybody who believes this propaganda has some serious insecurity issues.

Here is what your average right winger looks like

Ok lil fella - Arnold is a weak nobody - lol...  The sad liberals whining about those big dumb bully lying conservatives - is just really old... So what if you are a financial failure and have a feminine physique - keep the self loathing to yourself man... Its pathetic seeing a grown man so jealous of those that have the things you wish you had

[The True Adonis]

Absolutely not.  I was being sarcastic.  The left will have you believe that $45 bolts and $1000 toilet seats are the work of evil capitalist while conveniently ignoring that the root of the problem is because the government has the power to bestow these contracts.  My joke was that the corrupt government needed a bigger more corrupt government to keep it in check.  The left live under the delusion that only government can check the power of big business.  They fail to understand that big government is the enabler of big business and monopolies.

If you were a businessman and the government offered you a no-bid contract where you could charge $45 for a bolt that costs you 20c would you not take it?  Of course you would!  You'd be a fool not too.  The government can pay that kind of money because it possesses a monopoly on those contracts and can use force to tax the citizenry to pay for it.

I think socialism for the rich is as reprehensible as socialism for the poor.  The greed of the poor is not morally superior to the greed of the rich...that's where the morality of the 'parties' fail.   They both use the government to exert force, violence and/or the threat of violence to enrich themselves at your hard earned capital.

Both are appalling to be labeled as 'civilized'.

Guess who the staunchest supporters are of Defense Spending.

Your boyfriends, the Republicans. 

[tu_holmes]

Guess who the staunchest supporters are of Defense Spending.

Your boyfriends, the Republicans. 

Which would probably not piss me off if Gas was still 99 cents a gallon, but when we spend all that money in those oil rich countries and don't get a good deal on it, it just makes me angry.

[Shockwave]

Which would probably not piss me off if Gas was still 99 cents a gallon, but when we spend all that money in those oil rich countries and don't get a good deal on it, it just makes me angry.

HA! Me too.