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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #50 on: January 13, 2014, 10:57:01 AM »
I'm the runt of the liter. You're still a fagget.

You poor thing  :-\

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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #51 on: January 13, 2014, 10:57:17 AM »
heres the pic



note the very thin layer of bodyfat, about as thin as the skin.shredded as usual.


note the gap with the "a" within the "o".this is on the inside,this is the true problem, much more than the akromion thing.

that gap should normaly be closed.the white stuff is the stuff they injected,dont knwo the name
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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #52 on: January 13, 2014, 11:01:58 AM »
Sorry to hear about your diagnosis Galeniko - you did an awesome job if you had to train through pain every time you went to the gym.

Take a long term view - you don't want to be crippled at age 40. Take some time off, enjoy your rest and come back better than ever. This is just a speed bump.

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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #54 on: January 13, 2014, 11:07:01 AM »
Sorry to hear about your diagnosis Galeniko - you did an awesome job if you had to train through pain every time you went to the gym.

Take a long term view - you don't want to be crippled at age 40. Take some time off, enjoy your rest and come back better than ever. This is just a speed bump.
yes man every single time was pains.even when squating, the arm position on the bar,even that hurt.

not one workout was ,you know, "full out".

the times where it felt like itd go away are countless, but it was just numb sorta and came back furiously every time.

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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #55 on: January 13, 2014, 11:15:46 AM »
ah cool.
hold on, does this mean no more heavy incline bench for me ever again? ???

def above horizontal is the epic pain zone.

you know that "pose" where you pull the traps out and flex the upper pecs a bit?or plainly most muscular crab?wow that hurts so much that it goes numb after few seconds.

we will se if this 3rd world shithole can treat this well.this gonna cost a fortune.3 days in hospital + rehab ,in the usa most would have to sell their house to fix that :D
Are you saying you will be going down to the size of dj181?

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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #56 on: January 13, 2014, 11:17:46 AM »
Are you saying you will be going down to the size of dj181?
hm doubt that, was that size at age 9 i think.

 ;D

Its called karma.
Enjoy.
nah its called a shouler complication, cornuto
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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #57 on: January 13, 2014, 11:19:20 AM »
Sucks to hear it man.  I dislocated and fractured my right shoulder in 5 different spots.  Yes, 5 fractures.  Every day life activities become a fucking chore when you can use one arm. It got better but still clicks constantly and hurts when I go heavy on certain exercises.  you will still be in good shape though because you know how to stick to a diet.  Good luck.

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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #58 on: January 13, 2014, 11:19:43 AM »
Sorry to hear that. I went through similar stuff when the achilean tendon tore. If I could share with you one thing I have learned, is learn to eat balanced so that you don't baloon up. Then, when you come back to training, it'll be a smoother transition.

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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #59 on: January 13, 2014, 11:20:42 AM »
think so, did you read the latin words,the summary?its somewhere on page 1.

Yes. Let's make sense of all this fancy medical jargon...

AC joint inflammation & arthritis as mentioned in what you wrote: "some arhtrosisbut big inflammation in "ac"joint, medium edema in extremitas acromialis claviculae"

This is simply arthritis developed at the joint that's found in between your clavicle and acromion.



Just from the AC joint arthritis alone, I could see you having many day-to-day pain issues as it causes localized inflammation and pain. Typically, the bone spurs at the distal end of the clavicle tend to look Moth-eaten when visualized by way of X-rays. This typically occurs in older individuals, as well as adamant weight-lifters due to prolonged wear and tear. You can live with this, but it tends to be painful and messes with your workouts. Physical therapy and Anti-Inflammatory drugs are the first line of action, followed by surgery is no progress is seen.

For this, they will most likely perform a distal clavicle excision (which will hopefully alleviate some of the AC joint arthritis that is causing you so much pain). They will literally file down the distal end of your clavicle.

Subacromial impingement as mentioned in what you wrote: "bent akromion"

I am assuming, as a few others have mentioned here that your acromion qualifies as a level III, which looks like this:



They will most likely provide you with a little subacromial decompression to tackle that "bent' acromion when they perform arthroscopic surgery of your shoulder.

Rotator-Cuff thickening as mentioned by what you wrote: "the rotator cuff in this area is EXTREMLY thickened and has a central and peritendinos edema,al the way to the infraspinatus tendon."

This is just a fancy term for inflammation that affects the four muscles and tendons that comprise the rotator cuff. Once they perform surgery, they will amplify the space between both the rotator cuff and acromion and this will alleviate both the pain and inflammation (thickening) that you are experiencing.

Synovial Cysts as mentioned by what you wrote: "several signal cysts in tuberculum majus humeri"

The synovial fluid is like lubricating fluid that sits in between joint of your shoulders. When there is an impingement, that causes the sheath (or synovium) that holds this fluid intact to bulge out, you are then left with a synovial cyst. Most are not a big deal, but when they press upon localized nerves, you can have some numbness in the region, which can be problematic. They will remove these cysts during your surgery.

Ultimately, it will suck for a couple of months after surgery, but with a little physical therapy, proper nutrition and attention to your body as your best indicator of pain, you should be fine.

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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #60 on: January 13, 2014, 11:22:36 AM »
Good luck Gal hate to see this type of stuff happen to anyone.

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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #61 on: January 13, 2014, 11:23:26 AM »
Lol at the lame ass trolls trying so hard to get under gals skin, over and over, only to get completely ignored like the little ankle biting bitches they are.

extra lulz.

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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #62 on: January 13, 2014, 11:24:02 AM »
Its called karma.
Enjoy.

Bingo! His shoulder is fucked for life life now. Probably turn into a full blown alcoholic/pain killer addict. Which all means NO MORE WOMEN FOR HIM. Hahahahahaha

Gotta love the irony when people point and say "I HOPE KARMA FUCKS YOU IN THE ASS WITH A 12" SPIKED DILDO!@@!$!!!!!111" ::)

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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #63 on: January 13, 2014, 11:25:18 AM »
Lol at the lame ass trolls trying so hard to get under gals skin, over and over, only to get completely ignored like the little ankle biting bitches they are.

extra lulz.

Yup. Haha!

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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #64 on: January 13, 2014, 11:27:11 AM »
Sorry to hear that. I went through similar stuff when the achilean tendon tore. If I could share with you one thing I have learned, is learn to eat balanced so that you don't baloon up. Then, when you come back to training, it'll be a smoother transition.
yeah im already planning how to ocupy myself with things, to stay away from eating like a normal fatso.not getting bored etc, this will mean much cardio i guess.

will try to start at 6-7% bodyfat, no matter how small i get.

then can just blow up into shape, with the right creatine :-*

Sucks to hear it man.  I dislocated and fractured my right shoulder in 5 different spots.  Yes, 5 fractures.  Every day life activities become a fucking chore when you can use one arm. It got better but still clicks constantly and hurts when I go heavy on certain exercises.  you will still be in good shape though because you know how to stick to a diet.  Good luck.
damn that sounds bad.mine dont click, the pain overwhelms anything before can even think of going too heavy.

its weird a relative moderate weight, 2 plates each side, goes effortless for many reps when warmed up on bench, but heavier just doesnt work nomore.



Lol at the lame ass trolls trying so hard to get under gals skin, over and over, only to get completely ignored like the little ankle biting bitches they are.

extra lulz.
they dont get it, they make themselves look very here,im already foccussing on the comeback, looking forward to lose it all, bc when healed, the trainings will be like when aged 20.not trained pain free in 4years.something had to be done,this is a relief.

Good luck Gal hate to see this type of stuff happen to anyone.
thx,are you greek btw?
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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #65 on: January 13, 2014, 11:29:58 AM »
Lol at the lame ass trolls trying so hard to get under gals skin, over and over, only to get completely ignored like the little ankle biting bitches they are.

extra lulz.
Bordering on pathetic!  :(

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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #66 on: January 13, 2014, 11:31:15 AM »
Lol at the lame ass trolls trying so hard to get under gals skin, over and over, only to get completely ignored like the little ankle biting bitches they are.

extra lulz.

That's ok...

That's what I am here for, to erase the bullshit comments from a useful discussion surrounding a shoulder injury that can happen to any of us.

I've received the complaints and all the shit responses will disappear.

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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #67 on: January 13, 2014, 11:31:46 AM »
You mean he won't be back to benching 405 by week 7?

Oh.
HE WILL EAT HEAVY/LIFT HEAVY/NO ROIDS BY WK 7 AND DO IT CLEAN AS A WHISTLE...

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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #68 on: January 13, 2014, 11:32:10 AM »
Yes. Let's make sense of all this fancy medical jargon...

AC joint inflammation & arthritis as mentioned in what you wrote: "some arhtrosisbut big inflammation in "ac"joint, medium edema in extremitas acromialis claviculae"

This is simply arthritis developed at the joint that's found in between your clavicle and acromion.



Just from the AC joint arthritis alone, I could see you having many day-to-day pain issues as it causes localized inflammation and pain. Typically, the bone spurs at the distal end of the clavicle tend to look Moth-eaten when visualized by way of X-rays. This typically occurs in older individuals, as well as adamant weight-lifters due to prolonged wear and tear. You can live with this, but it tends to be painful and messes with your workouts. Physical therapy and Anti-Inflammatory drugs are the first line of action, followed by surgery is no progress is seen.

For this, they will most likely perform a distal clavicle excision (which will hopefully alleviate some of the AC joint arthritis that is causing you so much pain). They will literally file down the distal end of your clavicle.

Subacromial impingement as mentioned in what you wrote: "bent akromion"

I am assuming, as a few others have mentioned here that your acromion qualifies as a level III, which looks like this:



They will most likely provide you with a little subacromial decompression to tackle that "bent' acromion when they perform arthroscopic surgery of your shoulder.

Rotator-Cuff thickening as mentioned by what you wrote: "the rotator cuff in this area is EXTREMLY thickened and has a central and peritendinos edema,al the way to the infraspinatus tendon."

This is just a fancy term for inflammation that affects the four muscles and tendons that comprise the rotator cuff. Once they perform surgery, they will amplify the space between both the rotator cuff and acromion and this will alleviate both the pain and inflammation (thickening) that you are experiencing.

Synovial Cysts as mentioned by what you wrote: "several signal cysts in tuberculum majus humeri"

The synovial fluid is like lubricating fluid that sits in between joint of your shoulders. When there is an impingement, that causes the sheath (or synovium) that holds this fluid intact to bulge out, you are then left with a synovial cyst. Most are not a big deal, but when they press upon localized nerves, you can have some numbness in the region, which can be problematic. They will remove these cysts during your surgery.

Ultimately, it will suck for a couple of months after surgery, but with a little physical therapy, proper nutrition and attention to your body as your best indicator of pain, you should be fine.

"1"
phenomanal post summary.

this is best description of the pains.

when asked where it is, i couldnt answer, but if i cut open the area myslef id know where it is.

yes definitely type 3 overlap, thats what doc said too,overlap.

and yes they gonna file-erode some bone tissue away.

and close that gap in the capsule as seen on the xray pic
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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #69 on: January 13, 2014, 11:33:09 AM »
That's ok...

That's what I am here for, to erase the bullshit comments from a useful discussion surrounding a shoulder injury that can happen to any of us.

I've received the complaints and all the shit responses will disappear.

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you can sweep it under the rug but can you really make it go away?

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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #70 on: January 13, 2014, 11:34:37 AM »
. No his body will match his teeth: wrecked.  Hahahahah
this i legitimately laughed haha ;D

That's ok...

That's what I am here for, to erase the bullshit comments from a useful discussion surrounding a shoulder injury that can happen to any of us.

I've received the complaints and all the shit responses will disappear.

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as far im concerned, the entertaining ones can stay.

it doesnt matter what the jealous write, it only matter how long their sentences are and how frequent.

living in many heads, it seems.occupying space :D

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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #71 on: January 13, 2014, 11:36:35 AM »
Sometimes shit like this is a blessing in disguise. Coming back from an injury can be very motivating and enjoyable. Reclaiming past glories and exceeding them is a very satisfying feeling.

Best of luck.

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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #72 on: January 13, 2014, 11:36:35 AM »
you can sweep it under the rug but can you really make it go away?

If you really start to become a nuisance and have a complete disregard for serious conversation when the topic matter emerges, it can lead to your removal.

Be cool and have fun with the forum, but when discussions like this arise, whereby others can learn from the experience of a member that is about to go through surgery for a condition that can happen to any of us, let the serious discussion continue without tarnishing it with bullshit posts.

There are thousands of other threads whereby fucking around is perfectly fine. Gal is here to ask for some general advice and to tell us about his experience.

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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #73 on: January 13, 2014, 11:38:23 AM »
Stay strong Galeniko.  I think you are going into this with the proper attitude and not letting it own you.  People have come back from a lot worse, so you probably don`t have much to worry about.

If I were you, I would minimize the usage of medication and pain pills as much as possible and deal with it.

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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #74 on: January 13, 2014, 11:40:22 AM »
I hope you get well soon Gal. Nobody should have to live in pain.