geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(

[monstermunch]

yeah i know, dnt tell me youre another one who didnt do the operation?

doesnt the nhs cover this?

They offered me but I couldn't afford to be in a sling with uni work and other stuff. Also I wanted to see how much I could repair naturally but I was never in pain day to day, just had an unstable shoulder and of course training was difficult with impingement.

I can never go bungee jumping but I can live with that! 

[Mawse]

x 2 on a second opinion, My ortho treats LA Galaxy and some Dodgers players so he's repaired multi million dollar joints, and he's ultra conservative. Some other, shittier, surgeons I've seen have been much more keen to cut me open

he's talked me out of surgery on my hip and my shoulder (torn labrums, bone spurs, tendon cleanup) and pushed rehab / mobilization work.

not that it might be appropriate for you, but I have an insane list of injuries from retarded lifting that I now work-around, mostly pain free and never had surgery (god willing it stays that way)

remember that most physios rehab is the worst kind of retarded broscience and can actually hurt you a lot more than sitting on the couch doing nothing

[oldtimer1]

x 2 on a second opinion, My ortho treats LA Galaxy and some Dodgers players so he's repaired multi million dollar joints, and he's ultra conservative. Some other, shittier, surgeons I've seen have been much more keen to cut me open

he's talked me out of surgery on my hip and my shoulder (torn labrums, bone spurs, tendon cleanup) and pushed rehab / mobilization work.

not that it might be appropriate for you, but I have an insane list of injuries from retarded lifting that I now work-around, mostly pain free and never had surgery (god willing it stays that way)

remember that most physios rehab is the worst kind of retarded broscience and can actually hurt you a lot more than sitting on the couch doing nothing

True, surgeons get the big pay check when they operate so they are always going to lean toward that. They need the big pay checks to pay their big mortgage, car bill and tuition for their kids. I have had terrible pain on one elbow for about 5 months that got better. I'm sure if I saw an orthopedic surgeon when I was in pain he would have wanted to fix it with a knife. Sometimes a repair is the only option.

[Kurt]

Focus on healing... Rest, diet, and rehab when you are ready. My shoulder injury years ago was minor in comparison, but I am glad I took my time healing.

[galeniko]

x 2 on a second opinion, My ortho treats LA Galaxy and some Dodgers players so he's repaired multi million dollar joints, and he's ultra conservative. Some other, shittier, surgeons I've seen have been much more keen to cut me open

he's talked me out of surgery on my hip and my shoulder (torn labrums, bone spurs, tendon cleanup) and pushed rehab / mobilization work.

not that it might be appropriate for you, but I have an insane list of injuries from retarded lifting that I now work-around, mostly pain free and never had surgery (god willing it stays that way)

remember that most physios rehab is the worst kind of retarded broscience and can actually hurt you a lot more than sitting on the couch doing nothing

yeah the working around it is ok, but to know it wont go away is too much.its very frustrating and affecting everyday things all the time, even need special sleep position

agreed about the rehab stuff.its gonna be similiar to the personal trainers in the fitness now kinda gymchains.

and other factor is something job-career related,it really has to go the pains.

will see another surgeon and show him the scans and se what he says.

but this one has operated politicians,they multi million bodies too

[che]

Sorry to hear that Gayleniko , I had an AC joint separation , I was going to have a surgery but decided not to have it , the only exercises that kill my shoulders  are , flat and incline bench , dips ,  upright rows and heavy shrugs ,  I can do everything else , I use a lot of machines for my chest and my chest still beautiful.

[Hulkotron]

Sorry to hear  Good luck friend

[galeniko]

Sorry to hear that Gayleniko , I had an AC joint separation , I was going to have a surgery but decided not to have it , the only exercises that kill my shoulders  are , flat and incline bench , dips ,  upright rows and heavy shrugs ,  I can do everything else , I use a lot of machines for my chest and my chest still beautiful.

yes,my dear homosexual friend che, this sounds much like the same issue.

those "only" exercises youve listed are quite the bunch

[njflex]

yes,my dear homosexual friend che, this sounds much like the same issue.

those "only" exercises youve listed are quite the bunch

fratello,,very bad news indeed.you will be back quicker than most  ,,

[che]

those "only" exercises youve listed are quite the bunch

Not really if you know what you are doing. .

machines,machines ,machines.

[njflex]

Not really if you know what you are doing. .

machines,machines ,machines.

che/che/che/che..

[che]

che/che/che/che..

When it comes to nutrition and training ,  I'm very underrated on Getbig .

[Thin Lizzy]

nah brother,i refuse the cortisol shot, by looking at the scans(ill upload later a pic), even me seen straight away that theres no tab or shot to fix that.
theres very strong cortisol tabs theyd make the pain smaller, but no good idea consdiering all other factors.

here is the diagnosis, i translate as good as possible:

-some arhtrosisbut big inflammation in "ac"joint, medium edema in extremitas acromialis claviculae.
-chronical impingement of tuberculum majus humeri vs lower edge of akromion.resulting in several signal cysts in tuberculum majus humeri.

Had a friend with a similar injury. Good athlete and martial artist. He opted to have the surgery. For the first few days he couldn't feel his arm. After about 3 weeks he could live a reasonably normal sedentary life. After six months he was training and about 80% back. 100% is about a year.

Good luck whatever you decide.

[galeniko]

Had a friend with a similar injury. Good athlete and martial artist. He opted to have the surgery. For the first few days he couldn't feel his arm. After about 3 weeks he could live a reasonably normal sedentary life. After six months he was training and about 80% back. 100% is about a year.

Good luck whatever you decide.

damn this sounds soo too much long to come back

have one frend who did the same surgery, or very similiar, not sure when but was recent, hes already driving car ,but has lost half his size, no joke, half of him is gone.the only thing that profited look wise is his face

haha i planed to lok about same 3 months post op.stay optimistic

[falco]

Very bad news my frend. It sounds bad.

During recovery avoid extreme dieting and excessive cardio. Load on protein. Gh will help a lot.
This gel helps my father a lot in bone and tendon problems: http://www.artrostore.de/produkte/artro-silium-gel-150-ml/

Remember, chicks dig style and class, not just big muscles.

Stay strong.

[Henda]

Good luck and hope for a fast recovery my friend during a bbers worst nightmare.

Think 2014 is one of those bad, testing years with lots to overcome for a lot of people.

[Cleanest Natural]

damn this sounds soo too much long to come back

have one frend who did the same surgery, or very similiar, not sure when but was recent, hes already driving car ,but has lost half his size, no joke, half of him is gone.the only thing that profited look wise is his face

haha i planed to lok about same 3 months post op.stay optimistic

I am almost 7 months out of my surgery, I think it'll be a full year before I can move like I did prior to it.

[goku]

sorry to hear, hate hearing about bodybuilders suffering injuries!
muscle memory is incredible, honestly will take 2-3 weeks with gear to get back much of what you lose when youre back.
has happened to me many times!

[Quickerblade]

gals is a champ
he will bounce back.

[Cleanest Natural]

i understand these people are trying to say you will be better than before for motivational purposes, but i think we all know that is not how the body works, it will never be the same again

..which is ok .. we learn to adapt.

[wes]

..which is ok .. we learn to adapt.

^^^^THIS

We learn to work around injuries, and to avoid any movements in the gym that cause undue pain.

We all go through this eventually,but obviously on different scales of injury severity.

[njflex]

I am almost 7 months out of my surgery, I think it'll be a full year before I can move like I did prior to it.

an u had a killer injury'achilles'football players KILLS there season or they never return.

[Mr Anabolic]

I have some of the same injuries in my right shoulder.  Wear and tear is a bitch... it comes with age... there's not much you can do about it.

Even with corrective surgery/shoulder replacement, full recovery is not likely.  You'll need to totally re-vamp your training around the injury... baby the hell out of it and reduce the weights on ALL upper body exercises... all involve the shoulder to some degree or another.

It's a hard pill to swallow, but a smaller functioning shoulder is much better than a large, painful, dysfunctional one.

[El Diablo Blanco]

Gal, just remember to adjust your diet.  If you eat the same but don't burn the surplus of calories you can fatten up quick.

[Mazda323]

Gal I read it just now. I Wish you the best my friend!!!

Our health is the big deal, but I am sure that you have the knowledge and the willpower to be back on the track with your extreme conditioning physique!!!

Wish you the best!!!