Abs? you either got them or you don't.

[whitewidow]

I think abs are one of those muscles were you are either born with great abdominal foundation or your not. I have seen some guys who don't even train abs and just diet and come in with some of the best abs and then some guys work abs all the time for hours ,are on gear and a good diet and they still can't get 6 pack washboard abs. I think this is the most frustrating muscle group def a muscle group were you either are born with a great ab foundation or your not and sometimes all the training and diet in the world won;t help too much. discuss. Am I wrong? can someone really develope crazy abs without that natural foundation(you know those dudes who had 6 packs in 1st grade and alot of brothers just naturally have abs) cutler dosn;t even really have good abs and he trains them,then look at dexter he has crazy abdominal foundation.Lee priest never trained abs at all or just a bare minimal(Lee said all diet for him) no ab work needed. This is the one muscle group I think is the hardest to improve.

[Icelord]

fascinating story brother

[TEH boob]

Seriously, you could switch out the body part in the thread title and have it apply to anything.

"impressive calves, you either have them or you don't"
"Long biceps, you either have them or you don't"
Etc

[Wez]

or penis...have or don't

[forillagorilla]

I think abs are one of those muscles were you are either born with great abdominal foundation or your not. I have seen some guys who don't even train abs and just diet and come in with some of the best abs and then some guys work abs all the time for hours ,are on gear and a good diet and they still can't get 6 pack washboard abs. I think this is the most frustrating muscle group def a muscle group were you either are born with a great ab foundation or your not and sometimes all the training and diet in the world won;t help too much. discuss. Am I wrong? can someone really develope crazy abs without that natural foundation(you know those dudes who had 6 packs in 1st grade and alot of brothers just naturally have abs) cutler dosn;t even really have good abs and he trains them,then look at dexter he has crazy abdominal foundation.Lee priest never trained abs at all or just a bare minimal(Lee said all diet for him) no ab work needed. This is the one muscle group I think is the hardest to improve.

OR maybe you are a skinny fat - weak minded - estrogen oozing bitch. No excuse for anyone to not have abs - and any pussy that says they don't want abs is a fucking no good liar that I would open hand bitch slap right in front of their own disappointed loved ones.

[Bevo]

Like groink would say :

Same with calves, arms, chest, legs, back....

[indie-lad]

I have them...in spades.

[the trainer]

Onion booty either you have them or you dont.

[cephissus]

Seriously, you could switch out the body part in the thread title and have it apply to anything.

"impressive calves, you either have them or you don't"
"Long biceps, you either have them or you don't"
Etc

x100 fuck off whitewidow

[whitewidow]

your right can work with any muscle group but I think the abs and calfs are the hardest to make improvements on.

[whitewidow]

I have them...in spades.

That's good but still not perfect. what more could you do though? looks like you train them hard but your lower abs and V-taper need improvement. not saying i am any better just hard to get that incredible mid-section

[whitewidow]

x100 fuck off whitewidow

Hi Gh15 elf. still on your knees blwing Gh15 and buying his fake kigs.

[whitewidow]

OR maybe you are a skinny fat - weak minded - estrogen oozing bitch. No excuse for anyone to not have abs - and any pussy that says they don't want abs is a fucking no good liar that I would open hand bitch slap right in front of their own disappointed loved ones.

Gh15 elf

[whitewidow]

Seriously, you could switch out the body part in the thread title and have it apply to anything.

"impressive calves, you either have them or you don't"
"Long biceps, you either have them or you don't"
Etc

No because no matter what you have to train  arms, calves and every other muscle but their are guys like lee pries,david henry,dexter jackson and a few others who do absolutely nothing for abs! You can;t just do absolutely nothing for arms,calves and back ETC, but somehow these guys get away without training abs at all! They get abs just by dieting not training them at all.

[CalvinH]

I think abs are one of those muscles were you are either born with great abdominal foundation or your not. I have seen some guys who don't even train abs and just diet and come in with some of the best abs and then some guys work abs all the time for hours ,are on gear and a good diet and they still can't get 6 pack washboard abs. I think this is the most frustrating muscle group def a muscle group were you either are born with a great ab foundation or your not and sometimes all the training and diet in the world won;t help too much. discuss. Am I wrong? can someone really develope crazy abs without that natural foundation(you know those dudes who had 6 packs in 1st grade and alot of brothers just naturally have abs) cutler dosn;t even really have good abs and he trains them,then look at dexter he has crazy abdominal foundation.Lee priest never trained abs at all or just a bare minimal(Lee said all diet for him) no ab work needed. This is the one muscle group I think is the hardest to improve.

Not sure about that with abs....I've put in a lot of work to develop my abs....no homo

[DroppingPlates]

funny but those are mediocre abs at best

Haha, true!

[mesmorph78]

I have them...in spades.

Great abs man

[ChristopherA]

your right can work with any muscle group but I think the abs and calfs are the hardest to make improvements on.

If you lift heavy consistently, you're gonna have abs. Your core is tightening almost every exercise you do. I didn't cut until I had been lifting a couple years solid, naturally heavy kid, and when I did what do you know? I had abs under that belly. Doing pullovers for chest def developed them. Of course when I cut I would train abs but have cut before and not even bothered and they were basically the same. Maybe they tighten and suck in more when I actually train them.

[ChristopherA]

i was just joking of course

using impossible standards


i hope i didnt hurt his feeling

Too late, he just blew his brains out all over his comic book collection. Gotta go easy with harsh comments like that Halo

[XFACTOR]

funny but those are mediocre abs at best

dex has one of the best physiques ever. Such a cool look

[indie-lad]

funny but those are mediocre abs at best

Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha...funny. Ask any girl what body she wants next to her in bed and we BOTH know what the answer will be...go ahead, show a girl both pics...listen, absorb, become educated.

Mostly meatheads like the bloofy, blocky, pharmaceutic body. I always was disgusted with that body and I have achieved my dream physique.

Marky Mark (90's) and Bruce Lee were always the way to go.

[ChristopherA]

Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha...funny. Ask any girl what body she wants next to her in bed and we BOTH know what the answer will be...go ahead, show a girl both pics...listen, absorb, become educated.

Mostly meatheads like the bloofy, blocky, pharmaceutic body. I always was disgusted with that body and I have achieved my dream physique.

Marky Mark (90's) and Bruce Lee were always the way to go.

Truth. Although I see all your references are to tiny people. Marky Mark, Bruce Lee, are you a tiny person yourself? To use your own lines ask a girl who she wants to lay in bed next to a midget with abs or, let's say me, 6'1" with abs. We both know the answer. LoL jus fucking with you, great build you got

[Simple Simon]

I have them...in spades.

That photos years old mate.

[DroppingPlates]

Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha...funny. Ask any girl what body she wants next to her in bed and we BOTH know what the answer will be...go ahead, show a girl both pics...listen, absorb, become educated.

Mostly meatheads like the bloofy, blocky, pharmaceutic body. I always was disgusted with that body and I have achieved my dream physique.

Marky Mark (90's) and Bruce Lee were always the way to go.

So you adjust your training objectives based on what 'girls' (aren't you 40-something? <pedo alert>) like? Limiting your freedom of preference like that is a gayish mindset.
Dex looks a trillion times better than you, even minus the gear. Oh, and he has a lovely woman.

[affeman]

I think abs are one of those muscles were you are either born with great abdominal foundation or your not. I have seen some guys who don't even train abs and just diet and come in with some of the best abs and then some guys work abs all the time for hours ,are on gear and a good diet and they still can't get 6 pack washboard abs. I think this is the most frustrating muscle group def a muscle group were you either are born with a great ab foundation or your not and sometimes all the training and diet in the world won;t help too much. discuss. Am I wrong? can someone really develope crazy abs without that natural foundation(you know those dudes who had 6 packs in 1st grade and alot of brothers just naturally have abs) cutler dosn;t even really have good abs and he trains them,then look at dexter he has crazy abdominal foundation.Lee priest never trained abs at all or just a bare minimal(Lee said all diet for him) no ab work needed. This is the one muscle group I think is the hardest to improve.

No, like everything else in BB abs are just drugs....all drugs.