not trying to hijack this thread about arnold. but it cracks me up how bill pearl has always tried to say he was " natural". lol oh sure he said he "tried" nilevar once. lmao. he was as juiced as anyone else. thats why he turned to a vegetarian. doc told him his cholestrol was sky high. told bill "i dont care how big your arms are or how good you look your gonna die. ( or something like that. i forgot. but it wasnt the food he was eating it was the gear!! lol no o ne knew it back then though.