Swearing at each other or name calling involving swear words.....

[OTHstrong]

will result in your entire post being deleted.

Debating is OK, of course, challenging each other and having opinions on both end of the spectrum is not only allowed but welcomed.

What is not allowed is calling someone  ''a fucken idiot''

[Uncle Junior]

will result in your entire post being deleted.

Debating is OK, of course, challenging each other and having opinions on both end of the spectrum is not only allowed but welcomed.

What is not allowed is calling someone  ''a fucken idiot''

Exactly, that's what I have been telling these fucking idiots the whole time, totally agree. 

[OTHstrong]

Exactly, that's what I have been telling these fucking idiots the whole time, totally agree. 

HEY 

LOL 

[TEMPER]

Exactly, that's what I have been telling these fucking idiots the whole time, totally agree.  

I highly recommend you read this entire post. The truth hurts but...At least you have the control to change your impulsive erratic behaviors, although it will take effort.




First of all: You have no business posting anything on this board because you have no business taking steroids. And here is why.


It's obvious who here has spent YEARS researching AAS, as well as the plethora of ancillary products that are inherently needed in conjunction with their use, often before even starting mild doses. Why? Because steroids can fuck you up very easily as can even the most basic AI's and the like. The side effects of the entire array are serious and the legality etc. makes the whole process a very serious endeavor you will likely be involved with for the rest of your natural life, whether you like it or not.

My story is a common one, and it should be, I spent 2 years endlessly reading SILENTLY on multiple boards before I even dreamed of taking anything, sheer curiosity. Then it was another year before I actually planned my initial run and plan it I did. Hell I had a box of 100 18g Luer Lock 3ml syringes, 200 23g tips, and 500 alchohol swabs in a drawer for a year because once they arrived in the mail I got cold feet and decided to do MORE research before taking the plunge. Then my first cycle was 250mg of test...I went from a 425lb raw deadlift to an easy 600lb beltless deadlift in 6 months on 250mg test...From 205 to 230 with little fat gain. And more importantly learned the entire process backwards and front.

Your entire research process consisted of 1 drunken weekend... "You jumped into this shit like a 10 year old with ADHD and $5 in his pocket at the candy shop"

You didn't have the first goddamn clue about anything, and it was painful to read your posts. For example you were asking people on the G&O how to even get syringes because your local fucking pharmacy didn't sell syringes and syringe accessories. You mean your local mom&pop pharmacy didn't have BULK syringes and tips of varying sizes and types on hand? You don't say    

Your whole "thing" screams of BiPolar Mania or OCD. An impulsive cluster fuck of bad decisions and/or lies to yourself and others.
You think you're funny, and are obnoxiously entitled, where you got your ego no one will ever know, because YLLS in every way...People paid attention to you because you were an obvious train wreck in the making...HTH.

You did no research whatsoever, you had and still have zero clue when it comes to diet, nutrition, exercise, basic goddamn common sense, none....And you jumped into a serious run with GROWTH HORMONE, 750mg test !?!?!, and a number of other things...I mean...It's just so much fail..And you are STILL NOTHING TO LOOK AT?!?! In one way or another you will pay dearly for your reckless abandon and stupidity of this much I'm sure.


So please before you even dream of posting again...READ SILENTLY there are countless very good forums out there 100% devoted to steroids..Lurk in the shadows where you belong. You don't need to ask questions because they have all been answered millions of times on the magical GOOGLE machine..You should look into it.

[OTHstrong]

I highly recommend you read this entire post. The truth hurts but...At least you have the control to change your impulsive erratic behaviors, although it will take effort.




First of all: You have no business posting anything on this board because you have no business taking steroids. And here is why.


It's obvious who here has spent YEARS researching AAS, as well as the plethora of ancillary products that are inherently needed in conjunction with their use, often before even starting mild doses. Why? Because steroids can fuck you up very easily as can even the most basic AI's and the like. The side effects of the entire array are serious and the legality etc. makes the whole process a very serious endeavor you will likely be involved with for the rest of your natural life, whether you like it or not.

My story is a common one, and it should be, I spent 2 years endlessly reading SILENTLY on multiple boards before I even dreamed of taking anything, sheer curiosity. Then it was another year before I actually planned my initial run and plan it I did. Hell I had a box of 100 18g Luer Lock 3ml syringes, 200 23g tips, and 500 alchohol swabs in a drawer for a year because once they arrived in the mail I got cold feet and decided to do MORE research before taking the plunge. Then my first cycle was 250mg of test...I went from a 425lb raw deadlift to an easy 600lb beltless deadlift in 6 months on 250mg test...From 205 to 230 with little fat gain. And more importantly learned the entire process backwards and front.

Your entire research process consisted of 1 drunken weekend... "You jumped into this shit like a 10 year old with ADHD and $5 in his pocket at the candy shop"

You didn't have the first goddamn clue about anything, and it was painful to read your posts. For example you were asking people on the G&O how to even get syringes because your local fucking pharmacy didn't sell syringes and syringe accessories. You mean your local mom&pop pharmacy didn't have BULK syringes and tips of varying sizes and types on hand? You don't say    

Your whole "thing" screams of BiPolar Mania or OCD. An impulsive cluster fuck of bad decisions and/or lies to yourself and others.
You think you're funny, and are obnoxiously entitled, where you got your ego no one will ever know, because YLLS in every way...People paid attention to you because you were an obvious train wreck in the making...HTH.

You did no research whatsoever, you had and still have zero clue when it comes to diet, nutrition, exercise, basic goddamn common sense, none....And you jumped into a serious run with GROWTH HORMONE, 750mg test !?!?!, and a number of other things...I mean...It's just so much fail..And you are STILL NOTHING TO LOOK AT?!?! In one way or another you will pay dearly for your reckless abandon and stupidity of this much I'm sure.


So please before you even dream of posting again...READ SILENTLY there are countless very good forums out there 100% devoted to steroids..Lurk in the shadows where you belong. You don't need to ask questions because they have all been answered millions of times on the magical GOOGLE machine..You should look into it.

wow, interesting ^^^^. I will leave this up here because you sir have very good points and I feel in the overall picture you are sending a good message, harsh but resourceful but I in no way condone you calling people names even if you feel they are being dumb. 

[ESFitness]

at least the dude is asking questions. so long as the guy isn't a liability (i.e. a drug addict or drunk or pedophile likely to get arrested and happen to be in possession of anabolics and bring heat to sources) I don't see what the problem is... plenty of us, if not most, would do our first cycle(s) differently. it's pretty rare that we have all the knowledge needed by the time we inject that first cc. 

remember what it was like before the internet? all you had was word of mouth (and Zulak's articles in MMI.. and MM2k), maybe if you were lucky, one of your buddies had a copy of the underground steroid handbook from duchaine.

what I have issues with is people repeating shit they overheard or read with zero experience. guys with 1 cycle, or even 10 cycles of mimimum doses of just a few drugs, pretending to know how everybody is going to react and that THEIR way is the ONLY way.

you can read all the books and ask all the questions in forums, and you can 'teach' yourself to swim... in theory. but you really won't know how to swim until you jump in the water.

expanding on that analogy... if all you can do is tread water, you have no business teaching people how to breaststroke or backstroke.

[Simple Simon]

at least the dude is asking questions. so long as the guy isn't a liability (i.e. a drug addict or drunk or pedophile likely to get arrested and happen to be in possession of anabolics and bring heat to sources) I don't see what the problem is... plenty of us, if not most, would do our first cycle(s) differently. it's pretty rare that we have all the knowledge needed by the time we inject that first cc. 

remember what it was like before the internet? all you had was word of mouth (and Zulak's articles in MMI.. and MM2k), maybe if you were lucky, one of your buddies had a copy of the underground steroid handbook from duchaine.

what I have issues with is people repeating shit they overheard or read with zero experience. guys with 1 cycle, or even 10 cycles of mimimum doses of just a few drugs, pretending to know how everybody is going to react and that THEIR way is the ONLY way.

you can read all the books and ask all the questions in forums, and you can 'teach' yourself to swim... in theory. but you really won't know how to swim until you jump in the water.

expanding on that analogy... if all you can do is tread water, you have no business teaching people how to breaststroke or backstroke.

He is, but what you will find he asks questions, gets the advice then tends to ask something dumb that a 5 year old could work out for himself.
He's just trolling, its almost as if he's not even reading the replies sometimes.
He reminds me of a monkey at the zoo that you feed grapes to, he keeps taking the grapes until you have run out and then spits all the pips back in your face.

You can take my advice or find out for yourself.

[ESFitness]

He is, but what you will find he asks questions, gets the advice then tends to ask something dumb that a 5 year old could work out for himself.
He's just trolling, its almost as if he's not even reading the replies sometimes.
He reminds me of a monkey at the zoo that you feed grapes to, he keeps taking the grapes until you have run out and then spits all the pips back in your face.

You can take my advice or find out for yourself.

doesn't affect me at all.

[OTHstrong]

He is, but what you will find he asks questions, gets the advice then tends to ask something dumb that a 5 year old could work out for himself.
He's just trolling, its almost as if he's not even reading the replies sometimes.
He reminds me of a monkey at the zoo that you feed grapes to, he keeps taking the grapes until you have run out and then spits all the pips back in your face.

You can take my advice or find out for yourself.

ya but that does not bother me or it shouldn't bother others who have the patients to explain things.

See I know the traffic that goes through here and for every 1 person asking a question there are 100 that are reading. So for the sake of the people who come on here and gather info I will answer the same question 100 times throughout the month, even if the same guy is asking the same question.

[Simple Simon]

ya but that does not bother me or it shouldn't bother others who have the patients to explain things.

See I know the traffic that goes through here and for every 1 person asking a question there are 100 that are reading. So for the sake of the people who come on here and gather info I will answer the same question 100 times throughout the month, even if the same guy is asking the same question.

OK, no worries, just wait until he does it to you (and he will) then see how you feel.

[OTHstrong]

OK, no worries, just wait until he does it to you (and he will) then see how you feel.

well tbh I have not been here in some time so if he is trolling the way you say then NOT COOL

[BOW]

Does that mean if I call you a fucken idiot that this entire thread that you posted will be removed?

[OTHstrong]

Does that mean if I call you a fucken idiot that this entire thread that you posted will be removed?

I never said the thread will be removed. I said your entire post will be removed.

If you spend 3 paragraphs explaining something and end it with ''fucken idiot'' the whole post will be removed.

[Mawse]

well tbh I have not been here in some time so if he is trolling the way you say then NOT COOL

It's fine him playing the simpleton troll role, but when he starts acting like an authority on aas with his 6 weeks of supposed experience then it becomes annoying.

At another forum you have to be validated to give advice, obviously gb isn't that but letting someone like him spout off just ruins any credibility of this sub section

[Simple Simon]

It's fine him playing the simpleton troll role, but when he starts acting like an authority on aas with his 6 weeks of supposed experience then it becomes annoying.

At another forum you have to be validated to give advice, obviously gb isn't that but letting someone like him spout off just ruins any credibility of this sub section

This, the guy was talking about breaking vials and trying to pour the contents onto a syringe a few months ago now he thinks hes an expert on all things AS.

He shouldnt even be posting in this section.

[Mad-scientist]

The truth hurts but not as bad as side effects do lol. That's why I like Getbig. Some ones always going to say it how it is.

[Uncle Junior]

It's fine him playing the simpleton troll role, but when he starts acting like an authority on aas with his 6 weeks of supposed experience then it becomes annoying.

At another forum you have to be validated to give advice, obviously gb isn't that but letting someone like him spout off just ruins any credibility of this sub section

Personal experience and first hand anecdotal evidence is great but that doesn't mean for one second that if someone doesn't use steroids that they don't know or understand the subject.

Most professors of steroidology have never taken steroids themselves it doesn't mean they don't know what they are talking about.

I don't claim to be an expert, without meaning to be disrespectful not one person on this board is.

They might be highly experienced users but unless you have a degree in endocrinology or are a doctor then you can't really call yourself an expert.

I have a professor of endocrinology monitor me for bloodworks and give me advice and have been researching steroids since I was 16 and got Dan Duchane's Underground Steroid handbook when I was 16 and if I offer input on here its based on my discussions with my doctor and I take the subject very seriously.

I have never ever trolled this section of the board or would ever dream of doing so.

This is an example of Simple Simon bringing his politics and agenda on G&O here in an attempt to discredit users on here like me and ES Fitness or people who he doesn't like and shouldn't be tolerated.

It's not like he doesn't have history is it.

He pulled the same shit with his UK Jeff account on the steroid section before which got banned.

  
 

 

[Simple Simon]

Personal experience and first hand anecdotal evidence is great but that doesn't mean for one second that if someone doesn't use steroids that they don't know or understand the subject.

Most professors of steroidology have never taken steroids themselves it doesn't mean they don't know what they are talking about.

I don't claim to be an expert, without meaning to be disrespectful not one person on this board is.

They might be highly experienced users but unless you have a degree in endocrinology or are a doctor then you can't really call yourself an expert.

I have a professor of endocrinology monitor me for bloodworks and give me advice and have been researching steroids since I was 16 and got Dan Duchane's Underground Steroid handbook when I was 16 and if I offer input on here its based on my discussions with my doctor and I take the subject very seriously.

I have never ever trolled this section of the board or would ever dream of doing so.

This is an example of Simple Simon bringing his politics and agenda on G&O here in an attempt to discredit users on here like me and ES Fitness or people who he doesn't like and shouldn't be tolerated.

It's not like he doesn't have history is it.

He pulled the same shit with his UK Jeff account on the steroid section before which got banned.

  
 

 

Try and stay on topic in this section junior, it isnt about name calling and finger pointing.

[OTHstrong]

It's fine him playing the simpleton troll role, but when he starts acting like an authority on aas with his 6 weeks of supposed experience then it becomes annoying.

At another forum you have to be validated to give advice, obviously gb isn't that but letting someone like him spout off just ruins any credibility of this sub section

hey bro, you ever coming back to London? even for visiting, would be great to get a work out with you some day. 

[Uncle Junior]

Try and stay on topic in this section junior, it isnt about name calling and finger pointing.

lmao, good one!

[Mawse]

hey bro, you ever coming back to London? even for visiting, would be great to get a work out with you some day. 

it would indeed but not likely, since we bought a house we now fly the relatives over to California for the holidays - the weather is nicer here at xmas than it is in Toronto

I do miss all the gyms there , London has better gyms than most American cities I've lived in

[Dr.J]

will result in your entire post being deleted.

Debating is OK, of course, challenging each other and having opinions on both end of the spectrum is not only allowed but welcomed.

What is not allowed is calling someone  ''a fucken idiot''

But OTH,  I am in fact "a fucked idiot"... 

[OTHstrong]

But OTH,  I am in fact "a fucked idiot"... 

lmao

[POB]

at least the dude is asking questions. so long as the guy isn't a liability (i.e. a drug addict or drunk or pedophile likely to get arrested and happen to be in possession of anabolics and bring heat to sources) I don't see what the problem is... plenty of us, if not most, would do our first cycle(s) differently. it's pretty rare that we have all the knowledge needed by the time we inject that first cc. 

remember what it was like before the internet? all you had was word of mouth (and Zulak's articles in MMI.. and MM2k), maybe if you were lucky, one of your buddies had a copy of the underground steroid handbook from duchaine.

what I have issues with is people repeating shit they overheard or read with zero experience. guys with 1 cycle, or even 10 cycles of mimimum doses of just a few drugs, pretending to know how everybody is going to react and that THEIR way is the ONLY way.

you can read all the books and ask all the questions in forums, and you can 'teach' yourself to swim... in theory. but you really won't know how to swim until you jump in the water.

expanding on that analogy... if all you can do is tread water, you have no business teaching people how to breaststroke or backstroke.

A full stick of laurabolin 50 to get 150mg , kids are spoiled these days

[ESFitness]

A full stick of laurabolin 50 to get 150mg , kids are spoiled these days

I remember that... then denkall came out 

first stuff I used was Sten. 2cc = 100mg test. what a pain in the ass... I can still smell that oil. smelled like potatoes and cleaning products.