Winstrol

[Damios]

Winstrol - a lot of people love this drug and a lot of people hate this drug.

What's Your experience with it? Your max dosage, length time?

Why a lot of people say that add Winny to Test + Tren stack is fking amazing? Is it valuable?

[BigRo]

I like it for the look it brings and how it helps recovery and strength, down sides are dry elbows and I,m sure its taxing on liver after a while. Are you considering oral or injectable?

[Damios]

Oral. I though about 50mg ed for ~8 weeks.

Something like that:

Test Prop 50mg ed
Tren Ace 25mg-50mg ed
Winny Oral 50mg ed

[mazrim]

Probably my favorite oral. No joint issues, etc. on it myself.

[lilhawk1]

Great drug if you're lean enough to see what it does, great for contest prep.  Brings great vascularity and crisp look when lean.

[Damios]

Probably my favorite oral. No joint issues, etc. on it myself.

mazrim, Your typically dosage and length use? 

[BigRo]

50mg for 8 weeks should be fine if your a healthy chap.

[Core]

never used it myself, but i will one of these days and I know I'll get the injectable water based suspension from my man C

[OTHstrong]

Our brother ahmed fucken hates it 

[ESFitness]

I'm not a fan.

used it alone (with test, that should go without saying), used it with tren, used it with anadrol, used it with tren and anadrol.

along with tren, my piss was very dark.. although I don't recall when my ast/alt was.

I believe my hairline went back a lil at the temples when using it with drol and tren, and noticed hairs in the sink. (I'd shower, dry my hair, brush teeth, put on deodorant, ect.. by then my hair was somewhat dry, so I'd wet it again in the sink before putting in a lil gel and I'd notice hairs in the sink and on my hands with the gel).

I have about 4 gallons of 25mg/ml winstrol sitting in my cabinet... and I think I've taken about 9cc's total in the past 2yrs, if that tells you anything.

if it worked well, I'd be using it.

[Damios]

Our brother ahmed fucken hates it 

What about Your experiences OTH? : - )

[OTHstrong]

What about Your experiences OTH? : - )

EDIT

I have picked apart many competitor's brains and try to focus on what is needed during contest prep and what I have come up with when it comes to winstrol is there is no difference in a physique if you are on winstrol for 10 weeks or for 3 weeks, non at all, it is the same thing.

Within 3 weeks winstrol will change your look and do it's job, so I say smash it hard for the last 3 weeks of your journey to your intended look and that's it.

Assuming you are on other compounds winstrol should be used as the finishing touch.

common protocol

PROP, TREN, ANADROL                        6 WEEKS, week 1-6

PROP, TREN, ANADROL, ANAVAR          3 WEEKS, week 7-9

PROP, TREN, ANAVAR, WINSTROL       3 WEEKS, week 10-12

BONE DRY.

You can keep it in for a few more weeks to maintain look

[oni]

I have picked apart many competitor's brains and try to focus on what is needed during contest prep and what I have come up with when it comes to winstrol is there is no difference in a physique if you are on winstrol for 10 weeks or for 3 weeks, non at all, it is the same thing.

Within 3 weeks winstrol will change your look and do it's job, so I say smash it hard for the last 3 weeks of your journey to your intended look and that's it.

Assuming you are on other compounds winstrol should be used as the finishing touch.

common protocol

PROP, TREN, ANADROL                        6 WEEKS

PROP, TREN, ANADROL, ANAVAR          3 WEEKS

PROP, TREN, ANAVAR, WINSTROL       3 WEEKS

BONE DRY.

You can keep it in for a few more weeks to maintain look

What about anavar?

[oni]

I mean masteron lol, what about masteron

[OTHstrong]

I mean masteron lol, what about masteron

I personally have not had very much experience with masteron but this one you can keep for extended periods and it starting to be a favorite among competitors, I will let someone else who has tried it thoroughly describe its attributes. One of the more expensive ones 

ANYONE ?

[oni]

I personally have not had very much experience with masteron but this one you can keep for extended periods and it starting to be a favorite among competitors, I will let someone else who has tried it thoroughly describe its attributes. One of the more expensive ones 

ANYONE ?

Just to clarify, you put the stuff at 6 weeks, then 3 weeks and then for 3 weeks again
Should this be 6/4/3 weeks?

[OTHstrong]

Just to clarify, you put the stuff at 6 weeks, then 3 weeks and then for 3 weeks again
Should this be 6/4/3 weeks?

What I meant is for 12 week contest prep

first 6 weeks

then

3 weeks which = week 7,8, and 9

then 3 weeks again with the changes for week 10, 11, and 12.

[OTHstrong]

What I meant is for 12 week contest prep

first 6 weeks

then

3 weeks which = week 7,8, and 9

then 3 weeks again with the changes for week 10, 11, and 12.

I edited the original post

EDIT

I have picked apart many competitor's brains and try to focus on what is needed during contest prep and what I have come up with when it comes to winstrol is there is no difference in a physique if you are on winstrol for 10 weeks or for 3 weeks, non at all, it is the same thing.

Within 3 weeks winstrol will change your look and do it's job, so I say smash it hard for the last 3 weeks of your journey to your intended look and that's it.

Assuming you are on other compounds winstrol should be used as the finishing touch.

common protocol

PROP, TREN, ANADROL                        6 WEEKS, week 1-6

PROP, TREN, ANADROL, ANAVAR          3 WEEKS, week 7-9

PROP, TREN, ANAVAR, WINSTROL       3 WEEKS, week 10-12

BONE DRY.

You can keep it in for a few more weeks to maintain look

[oni]

Great thanks, saved that for further use

[mazrim]

mazrim, Your typically dosage and length use?  

100mg.
Don't really keep track of how long I am on orals too often. I think the sides, harmfullness, etc. are a little overrated.
Typically about 6 to 8 weeks or so if I had to guess. I can usually tell when I start to feel "not right" and then I'll go off. May not be the best way to do it as far as what is really going on inside you but like I said I think sides are overrated and body bounces back quickly.

There are several studies where anadrol has been ran for very long periods before without sides/minimal side effects.

[Damios]

100mg.
Don't really keep track of how long I am on orals too often. I think the sides, harmfullness, etc. are a little overrated.
Typically about 6 to 8 weeks or so if I had to guess. I can usually tell when I start to feel "not right" and then I'll go off. May not be the best way to do it as far as what is really going on inside you but like I said I think sides are overrated and body bounces back quickly.

There are several studies where anadrol has been ran for very long periods before without sides/minimal side effects.

Thanks, i was using Dbol for 8 weeks without any liver, stomach problems etc... I think 50mg ed for 8 weeks will be okey :-)



I was thinking about winny vs master. 350mg winny vs 350mg master. Can anyone compare it? Similar compounds and often use for similar effects ( hardness, dryer etc. ) with stack test+tren.

[ESFitness]

100mg.
Don't really keep track of how long I am on orals too often. I think the sides, harmfullness, etc. are a little overrated.
Typically about 6 to 8 weeks or so if I had to guess. I can usually tell when I start to feel "not right" and then I'll go off. May not be the best way to do it as far as what is really going on inside you but like I said I think sides are overrated and body bounces back quickly.

There are several studies where anadrol has been ran for very long periods before without sides/minimal side effects.

check the mg/kg dosage for a 70lb child.. it's double what most bbers would consider a 'high' dose of drol.

... and the recommended duration is 6-9months, minimum, for anemia.

[oni]

Long term damage to the liver often has no symptoms until the liver has lost 90% of it's function

[ESFitness]

Long term damage to the liver often has no symptoms until the liver has lost 90% of it's function

yea, but what's considered 'damage'?

back when I was drinking (10+yrs ago), my ast/alt were in the 240+ range, I had no symptoms, liver-wise anyways.. liver was only slightly enlarged (was hospitalized for pancreatitis)... within a couple months it was back down to almost 'normal' (was still 'high' range, since I was still using aas)

[oni]

yea, but what's considered 'damage'?

back when I was drinking (10+yrs ago), my ast/alt were in the 240+ range, I had no symptoms, liver-wise anyways.. liver was only slightly enlarged (was hospitalized for pancreatitis)... within a couple months it was back down to almost 'normal' (was still 'high' range, since I was still using aas)

steatohepatitis and cirrhosis