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Why do steroids make you ago so fast?
« on: June 15, 2014, 09:20:52 PM »
It's obvious that steroids make you age super fast.

Why?

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Re: Why do steroids make you ago so fast?
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2014, 09:24:35 PM »
It's obvious that steroids make you age super fast.

Why?

Maybe because you are abusing them, as in dosing too high. Steroids in the proper dose actually promote good health and counter some of the aging process.

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Re: Why do steroids make you ago so fast?
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2014, 10:27:52 PM »
Some of the "aging" is temporary and reversible. Ever see a guy who has been on a lot of stuff for a long time go completely off for 4-5 months?

It just the way androgens affect the muscles and skin and water retention in the face.

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Re: Why do steroids make you ago so fast?
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2014, 10:28:37 PM »
Maybe because you are abusing them, as in dosing too high. Steroids in the proper dose actually promote good health and counter some of the aging process.

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Re: Why do steroids make you ago so fast?
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2014, 10:36:36 PM »
It all depends on the dosage, look at how good Zane looks, or how Serge Nubret looked at 70.

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Re: Why do steroids make you ago so fast?
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2014, 10:45:16 PM »
It's obvious that steroids make you age super fast.

Why?

Ask Leopold  :D

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Re: Why do steroids make you ago so fast?
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2014, 03:59:19 AM »
Depends on a person.

Both of them look about 30, yet JJ is over 40, Henry is close to it or 40 already..



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Re: Why do steroids make you ago so fast?
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2014, 05:07:27 AM »
Depends on a person.

Both of them look about 30, yet JJ is over 40, Henry is close to it or 40 already..




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Re: Why do steroids make you ago so fast?
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2014, 06:32:14 AM »
is this the new official ANABOLICHALO gimmick  ???

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Re: Why do steroids make you ago so fast?
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2014, 06:42:03 AM »
It's obvious that steroids make you age super fast.

Why?

You forgot to say:  "It must be a gimmick"

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Re: Why do steroids make you ago so fast?
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2014, 12:59:05 PM »


One of the mechanisms thru which steroids work, is that they cause a massive increase in IGF-1.

IGF-1 rapidly increases the division rate of cells, including muscles cells, hence the ability to grow and repair at a much accelerated rate, leading to big gains in muscles.

Of course the downside of this rapidly increasing rate of division is that you are effectively aging yourself faster. Over time as cells divide you introduce more "mistakes" in the DNA as each cell divides. These cumulative mistakes are what contributes to aging as you move from a collection of health cells to unhealthy cells.

Obviously there are other factors at play from a cosmetic perspective, constant sunbed use to maintain color, someone of African descent will not look as bad as someone of European descent as their skin can come with UV damage more effectively.
The dosages used, diet, genes, general lifestyle, these all play a part but fundamentally there is no getting around the fact at the base level steroids age you faster.

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Re: Why do steroids make you ago so fast?
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2014, 03:06:56 PM »

One of the mechanisms thru which steroids work, is that they cause a massive increase in IGF-1.

IGF-1 rapidly increases the division rate of cells, including muscles cells, hence the ability to grow and repair at a much accelerated rate, leading to big gains in muscles.

Of course the downside of this rapidly increasing rate of division is that you are effectively aging yourself faster. Over time as cells divide you introduce more "mistakes" in the DNA as each cell divides. These cumulative mistakes are what contributes to aging as you move from a collection of health cells to unhealthy cells.

Obviously there are other factors at play from a cosmetic perspective, constant sunbed use to maintain color, someone of African descent will not look as bad as someone of European descent as their skin can come with UV damage more effectively.
The dosages used, diet, genes, general lifestyle, these all play a part but fundamentally there is no getting around the fact at the base level steroids age you faster.

That's one of the theories, tho' it's not so simple and one-sided, at least with humans. Nematodes, mice, etc... - there are evidence for igf-1 pro aging action, but there've been contraictory findings recently too so it's quite difficult to tell for sure...
 And skin aging may be a very hereditary/genetic thing anyway.. Some people look old at 25, while some very young at 40, tho' that doesn't tell all about the real state of their biological age.

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Re: Why do steroids make you ago so fast?
« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2014, 05:27:41 PM »
Maybe because you are abusing them, as in dosing too high. Steroids in the proper dose actually promote good health and counter some of the aging process.

What is this magic dose?

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Re: Why do steroids make you ago so fast?
« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2014, 06:47:31 PM »
What is this magic dose?

This varies from person to person. I'm on TRT and it hasn't aged me, just the opposite. In fact, TRT has been shown to have some very positive health affects on people who need a testosterone boost.

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Re: Why do steroids make you ago so fast?
« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2014, 07:28:22 PM »
Maybe because you are abusing them, as in dosing too high. Steroids in the proper dose actually promote good health and counter some of the aging process.

Nope.

Long living people do not stick a needle in their ass to make their body look different than nature intended.

Read books, don't smoke, don't be gay, eat well, drink moderately and avoid recreational drugs.

Exercise moderately, every injury takes time off of your life.

That's it.

The secret to a long life. But, then again you might just have a bad heart in which case you are fucked.

Good luck, Boss.


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Re: Why do steroids make you ago so fast?
« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2014, 07:30:45 PM »


it isnt the 'steroids' that age you. they are used in longevity clinics. its the type that ages you, and possibly dosage. tren ages you greatly.
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Re: Why do steroids make you ago so fast?
« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2014, 07:36:43 PM »
A "longevity clinic" is just a short lived drug dealer.

Any 100 year old men working out in your gym?




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Re: Why do steroids make you ago so fast?
« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2014, 07:39:42 PM »
Jean Pierre Fux looked younger again off the sauce


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Re: Why do steroids make you ago so fast?
« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2014, 07:40:14 PM »
Nope.

Long living people do not stick a needle in their ass to make their body look different than nature intended.

Read books, don't smoke, don't be gay, eat well, drink moderately and avoid recreational drugs.

Exercise moderately, every injury takes time off of your life.

That's it.

The secret to a long life. But, then again you might just have a bad heart in which case you are fucked.

Good luck, Boss.



Nature wants you dead by 40. Science (including exogenous hormones) has extended our lives tremendously, where people are living past 100! The problem is abuse. As soon as you start abusing something you get negative effects, death included. Be sensible, listen to your doc (and use your brain to filter out the bullshit, they're human too), and you'll live a long and happy life.

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Re: Why do steroids make you ago so fast?
« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2014, 07:44:51 PM »
A "longevity clinic" is just a short lived drug dealer.

Any 100 year old men working out in your gym?





it speaks to the cosmetic appeal of using anabolics to look younger.

apparently you're too obtuse to make the connection.
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Re: Why do steroids make you ago so fast?
« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2014, 07:48:16 PM »
Nope.

Long living people do not stick a needle in their ass to make their body look different than nature intended.

Read books, don't smoke, don't be gay, eat well, drink moderately and avoid recreational drugs.

Exercise moderately, every injury takes time off of your life.

That's it.

The secret to a long life. But, then again you might just have a bad heart in which case you are fucked.

Good luck, Boss.



I am a normally pretty healthy about to be 70 year old man with a fairly good heart who has suffered almost no injuries, eats well, fairly well read, doesn't do drugs, quit smoking at 29, has exercised all of my adult life and who injects 150 mg of test per week, per my doctor's prescription. Am I doing something wrong? Oh yeah, it's the bisexual thing that will do me in right? Come see me in 20 years when you are still a kid and I am probably wearing Depends. LOL!

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Re: Why do steroids make you ago so fast?
« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2014, 08:21:09 PM »
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I dunno... 1 amp of Sten a week when I was 17/18 made me look 30. (sten = 75mg cyp and 25mg prop). lol

shit... I got carded a couple years ago and the lady thought my id was fake because she thought I was in my mid 40's. (I can see why she was working the midnight shift at walgreens on a Tuesday night.. with her excellent customer service skills)

when I go off everything, I look 15yrs younger. lol.

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Re: Why do steroids make you ago so fast?
« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2014, 08:34:16 PM »
Nature wants you dead by 40. Science (including exogenous hormones) has extended our lives tremendously, where people are living past 100! The problem is abuse. As soon as you start abusing something you get negative effects, death included. Be sensible, listen to your doc (and use your brain to filter out the bullshit, they're human too), and you'll live a long and happy life.

Good post.

I'm not believing a word of it, but that nature wants you dead has me thinking.




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Re: Why do steroids make you ago so fast?
« Reply #23 on: June 18, 2014, 02:00:15 AM »
Nope.

Long living people do not stick a needle in their ass to make their body look different than nature intended.

Read books, don't smoke, don't be gay, eat well, drink moderately and avoid recreational drugs.

Exercise moderately, every injury takes time off of your life.

That's it.

The secret to a long life. But, then again you might just have a bad heart in which case you are fucked.

Good luck, Boss.



"Naturalism" paradigma is a very wrong one. Nature intended us to get cancer and many more, it doesn't mean it's positive. Nature is not perfect, hasn't been perfect ever, and it intended us to live to about 30yo afterall, everything else after that (or even earlier) is a genome on "auto pilot", somehow trying to cope and stay on course. Hormones and other substances can help or can do harm, it DEPENDS...

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Re: Why do steroids make you ago so fast?
« Reply #24 on: June 18, 2014, 02:17:53 AM »
is this the new official ANABOLICHALO gimmick  ???

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