MMA fighter War Machine beats up Christy Mack

[Parker]

If someone refuses to return the key to your property, you simply ring the police and they will retrieve it for you.  There is never any mention at anytime that Christy Mack had requested the key be returned, that would be considered significant information pertaining to this case.  Either way, it is irrelevant,  Christy Mack herself clearly states in the police report that Warmachine was her boyfriend at the time of the assault.  White Knights and feminists refuse to accept this for obvious reasons.

No one really calls the police for a key...That is a theft that can easily be replaced, and one can easily have the doors locked. Would you call the police for a $1.50 key?

Police reports only are one part of it. Think about it, off again, on again...and she was dating someone else for two months. Or was that off again, on again? And Did Warmachine know the dude, or when they (War Machine and Mack) had broken up the last time, did she start seeing that guy. And what did she tell that guy "Oh, we had broken up"

There is no clear definition, they have a dysfunctional relationship, with no clear lines of if they are in a monogamous relationship or not.
Also, many times the after the incident, the "then" boyfriend is now the "ex" due to the assault. Think about it. The report when talk about it in the past tense, but not in the present tense of what the Current state of the relationship is.

[Radical Plato]

No one really calls the police for a key...That is a theft that can easily be replaced, and one can easily have the doors locked. Would you call the police for a $1.50 key?

Police reports only are one part of it. Think about it, off again, on again...and she was dating someone else for two months. Or was that off again, on again? And Did Warmachine know the dude, or when they (War Machine and Mack) had broken up the last time, did she start seeing that guy. And what did she tell that guy "Oh, we had broken up"

There is no clear definition, they have a dysfunctional relationship, with no clear lines of if they are in a monogamous relationship or not.
Also, many times the after the incident, the "then" boyfriend is now the "ex" due to the assault. Think about it. The report when talk about it in the past tense, but not in the present tense of what the Current state of the relationship is.

You love to present strawman arguments.  The value of the key is irrelevant, if the holder of a key is a potential legitimate threat, then yes, most people with a healthy sense of self preservation would demand the key back and if refused contact the authorities to retrieve the key.  In the process, probably take out some type of restraining/intervention order.  It is far more likely that Christy's admission that warmachine was her boyfriend is true and this is the obvious reason why he had a key to her property.

And it obviously really sticks in your gizzard, that Christy Mack herself identified Warmachine as her boyfriend in the police report.  No matter how much you try and spin this to suit your White Knight fantasy, she remains ON THE RECORD as acknowledging this.  The fact she later went on to deny it only further destroys her already questionable credibility.

And WTF, "no clear lines of if they are in a monogamous relationship".  There is nothing to suggest that they were not in a monogamous relationship. (It is clear warmachine believed they were in a monogamous relationship)  This is how people such as yourself treat Christy as a whore, by suggesting that because of what she does for a living that faithfulness or fidelity isn't expected from such a woman.

[ChristopherA]

Well technically, I think it is considered digital rape.  Christy claims he touched her vagina during the assault.  Christy claims warmachine said he was going to rape her but he couldn't achieve an erection.  At some point she claimed to have  over twenty bones in her face broken when the face only contains about 14 bones.  She obviously embellished the truth to garner as much sympathy as possible, and although she is quite well off, she milked a ton of money raising funds for her plight.  If the general public can't see through Christy and her embellishments, then as a society we are doomed and men have no hope.  Like I said. nobody deserves to be treated in such a way and warmachine should be punished, but life in prison is beyond a joke.

Let's just hypothesize the situation was reversed and Christy caught warmachine in bed with another woman and stabbed him causing serious injury.  Nobody would give a flying fuck, they would say warmachine was a piece of shit and deserved it and sympathize with poor Christy who yet again has been exploited and used by a man.  Men can't win either way.  The saddest part of all is that warmachine still professes his undying love for Christy Mack while she will be soon back to riding strangers cocks for money without a care in the world.

Yeah I keep hearing this life in prison being thrown around. That's stupid, he might as well have killed her

[Parker]

You love to present strawman arguments.  The value of the key is irrelevant, if the holder of a key is a potential legitimate threat, then yes, most people with a healthy sense of self preservation would demand the key back and if refused contact the authorities to retrieve the key.  In the process, probably take out some type of restraining/intervention order.  It is far more likely that Christy's admission that warmachine was her boyfriend is true and this is the obvious reason why he had a key to her property.

And it obviously really sticks in your gizzard, that Christy Mack herself identified Warmachine as her boyfriend in the police report.  No matter how much you try and spin this to suit your White Knight fantasy, she remains ON THE RECORD as acknowledging this.  The fact she later went on to deny it only further destroys her already questionable credibility.

And WTF, "no clear lines of if they are in a monogamous relationship".  There is nothing to suggest that they were not in a monogamous relationship. (It is clear warmachine believed they were in a monogamous relationship)  This is how people such as yourself treat Christy as a whore, by suggesting that because of what she does for a living that faithfulness or fidelity isn't expected from such a woman.

You are making too many assumptions.
Have you ever seen how these "incidents" play out from start to finish?
From police reports, arrests, to the eventual hearing?
Have you paid attention to what I have been saying?
These incidents play out like this--"I don't want him to go to jail or get into trouble"
Talk to attorneys, police officers, judges, etc. they will tell you the same thing.

Also, what War Machine believes, may not be the reality. We don't know what he believes
Also, both of them have done porn. And how can assume that since both do porn, and have a 15 month on again off again relationship, and that she was seeing another person, that he was cool with it? They engage in a lifestyle/work that is quite "alternative", so for us who do not engage in said lifestyle to use our definitions to define them is incorrect.

You keep on summising that everybody is treating her like a whore---when you have repeated use the term and with her name in the same sentence. Methinks it is you that wants her to be that.
Most people in this thread have said that dude should not have beaten her and deserves Jail time. You have talked about the White Knights, but your language and posturing is just that. You just don't want to called or seem like one.

One thing that we do know, both Mack and War Machine are used to dysfunctional/abusive relationships, and if he gets off, they will either be back together or they each will be in another dysfunctional/abusive relationship. It's a cycle that they will continue to repeat.

[240 is Back]

I think they're threatening him with LIFE, so he will cop a plea and get his 8 years or whatever.

IMAGINE the train wreck if they put HER ont he stand.  All these statements with lies/mistakes/whatever you call them, will wreck her credibility.  Social media = they know where she was, with him, their messages, etc.  

[240 is Back]

IMO, anytime a person - a cop, a crime victim, whoever - fudges even ONE fact about an incident, they should be excluded from any testimony, any accusation.

Every time I hear someone defend an idiot cop that "only lied about 3 or 4 details", I want to puke.   It means the cop was CAUGHT telling 3-4 lies in this case.  It means whatever accusations he is making are crap.   Even if a guilty person walks-  the cop should be fired for lying  about anything while on duty.

[Radical Plato]

You are making too many assumptions.
Have you ever seen how these "incidents" play out from start to finish?
From police reports, arrests, to the eventual hearing?
Have you paid attention to what I have been saying?
These incidents play out like this--"I don't want him to go to jail or get into trouble"
Talk to attorneys, police officers, judges, etc. they will tell you the same thing.

Also, what War Machine believes, may not be the reality. We don't know what he believes
Also, both of them have done porn. And how can assume that since both do porn, and have a 15 month on again off again relationship, and that she was seeing another person, that he was cool with it? They engage in a lifestyle/work that is quite "alternative", so for us who do not engage in said lifestyle to use our definitions to define them is incorrect.

You keep on summising that everybody is treating her like a whore---when you have repeated use the term and with her name in the same sentence. Methinks it is you that wants her to be that.
Most people in this thread have said that dude should not have beaten her and deserves Jail time. You have talked about the White Knights, but your language and posturing is just that. You just don't want to called or seem like one.

One thing that we do know, both Mack and War Machine are used to dysfunctional/abusive relationships, and if he gets off, they will either be back together or they each will be in another dysfunctional/abusive relationship. It's a cycle that they will continue to repeat.

Oh Brother, your post is pure nonsense.  I refer to her as a whore, because that is how she makes her living.  My point was, you pretend as if you don't see her as a whore and then treat her as such when you project your lowered fidelity expectations on her (by suggesting that we can't assume the relationship is monogamous)  --> WHY?(Because you think she is a whore and therefore most certainly participates in non monogamous relationships)

I have said he deserves to be punished, but life in prison is an absolute joke.  And my reference to the white knights is to those who obviously side with the woman to fulfill their feminist agenda and ignore her infidelity which triggered the assault.  Your desperate attempts to show that he wasn't her boyfriend and therefore simply a crazed lunatic is absolute proof of this.  The victim herself has quite clearly identified him as her boyfriend in an official police report, and even then this isn't good enough for your white knight mindset.

And you and I both know, warmachine isn't getting of this rap and I fail to see how anybody could label me a white knight.  I despise feminism, see it as a toxic fascist ideology and advocate for men's rights at every opportunity.  Also, when you make statements suggesting both parties have participated in porn and should be seen in the same light, it shows your deliberate obfuscations.  One has made a living from porn for years and is well known in the industry and the other has done a few porn flicks for kicks and doesn't have the same reputation in the industry as the other (certainly hasn't made a living from it).  To suggest that their porn careers are somehow parallel is false.  

[viking1]

Let's get back to gaping ass pics.

[Rambone]

Let's get back to gaping ass pics.

Lets not forget the hanging piss flaps

[The Ugly]

Do you not realize that the tattoo is on Christy Mack's shoulder you and that she is advertising she is the property of a man.

My mistake on the pic, just read your comment. Thought you were referring to "MACK" on his neck, which isn't her real name, either.

[Radical Plato]

My mistake on the pic, just read your comment. Thought you were referring to "MACK" on his neck, which isn't her real name, either.

Yeah, her name is Christine Mackinday.  And I don't think Jon takes the whole ALPHA male stuff to seriously, he drives a Toyota Prius for fucks sake.  But I do agree that he has done his nuts over this thoroughly undeserving woman.  Even now from his prison cell he is professing his undying love for Mack and encouraging his fans not to be critical of her.  I take issue with how easily women can shirk their responsibility when it comes to the feelings of men.  It was obvious Jon had serious feelings for this woman, even wanted to marry her and if she had any decency she would have extracted herself from this relationship before starting another.  Like I said, if this situation was reversed and Christy caught Jon cheating and stabbed him causing serious injury, Jon would be called a loverat and deserving of everything he got.

[The Ugly]

Yeah, her name is Christine Mackinday.  And I don't think Jon takes the whole ALPHA male stuff to seriously, he drives a Toyota Prius for fucks sake.  But I do agree that he has done his nuts over this thoroughly undeserving woman.  Even now from his prison cell he is professing his undying love for Mack and encouraging his fans not to be critical of her.  I take issue with how easily women can shirk their responsibility when it comes to the feelings of men.  It was obvious Jon had serious feelings for this woman, even wanted to marry her and if she had any decency she would have extracted herself from this relationship before starting another.  Like I said, if this situation was reversed and Christy caught Jon cheating and stabbed him causing serious injury, Jon would be called a loverat and deserving of everything he got.

Guy seems a bit of a paradox. First time I ever heard of him was in some obnoxiously thuggish YouTube selfie, where he went on and on about punking some gym employee, out "fuck"ing Scarface and every Tarantino movie combined. Worked it into every sentence, several times, all its forms and every part of speech. Uneducated, childish bully, by all appearances.

His jailhouse letters, though, very well written. Good grasp of grammar/punctuation, decent vocabulary, etc., which is rare, in general, anymore; much more so for a street tough. Doesn't make a whole lotta sense.

[Radical Plato]

Guy seems a bit of a paradox. First time I ever heard of him was in some obnoxiously thuggish YouTube selfie, where he went on and on about punking some gym employee, out "fuck"ing Scarface and every Tarantino movie combined. Worked it into every sentence, several times, all its forms and every part of speech. Uneducated, childish bully, by all appearances.

His jailhouse letters, though, very well written. Good grasp of grammar/punctuation, decent vocabulary, etc., which is rare, in general, anymore; much more so for a street tough. Doesn't make a whole lotta sense.

Yeah, the guy is a bit of an enigma.  I actually think he is a really sensitive guy who has adopted a tough attitude to mask his vulnerabilities.  His father died right in front of him when he was 13 and he tried unsuccessfully to resuscitate him.  His brother has spoken about how Jon has always struggled to shake some sense of guilt or blame over this failure.  He remarked on the Joe Rogan podcast how Internet warriors often provoke him about this with comments such as "hey dude, you're shit at CPR" in reference to his failed attempts to revive his dad.  

In this vimeo vid you can see a younger warmachine talking about the loss of his dad as he exposes his vulnerable side.  This was taken during the filming of the TUF series.

http://vimeo.com/109542815

No doubt the guy is a mess, but the general public take fighters for granted.  They are happy to pay money to bay for blood, but act surprised when fighters become unhinged.  Tito Ortiz  used 'warmachine' as an example when he talked about how the MMA organisations should attempt to provide mental health services to fighters even after they move on, considering they frequently receive concussive blows and head trauma.  Not only this, quite often the types of people who end up fighters come from already dysfunctional backgrounds and in some cases a fighting career can further destabilize them.

[visualizeperfection]

my buddy went to high school with him, said he was a nutcase. Beat the shit out of a lot of people. Wasnt a bully or anything, just beat up kids from rival high schools at parties and whatnot.


he did also say that he always had girlfriends and "needed" to have a women in his life essentially.

[WillGrant]

In the official police report Christy herself identifies warmachine as her boyfriend of 15 months.  The guy she was in bed with claims he had also been in a relationship with her for the past two months.  Warmachine also had the key to her house and he had a bumper sticker on his car that stated "I HEART CHRISTY MACK".  They sound like a couple to me.

She has already proven to be a liar - straight after this happened she released a statement saying the other guy and her were only friends and wernt
in bed or sleeping together - she basically tried to say WM found them together in the house and attacked them.

Then the police report came out and it states they were in bed together which would confirm why she was naked running to the neighbors house.

Horrible she took a beating but I really cant see how they can look at her evidence as credible having been caught lying more than once before it's even
gone to trial.

[Parker]

Oh Brother, your post is pure nonsense.  I refer to her as a whore, because that is how she makes her living.  My point was, you pretend as if you don't see her as a whore and then treat her as such when you project your lowered fidelity expectations on her (by suggesting that we can't assume the relationship is monogamous)  --> WHY?(Because you think she is a whore and therefore most certainly participates in non monogamous relationships)

I have said he deserves to be punished, but life in prison is an absolute joke.  And my reference to the white knights is to those who obviously side with the woman to fulfill their feminist agenda and ignore her infidelity which triggered the assault.  Your desperate attempts to show that he wasn't her boyfriend and therefore simply a crazed lunatic is absolute proof of this.  The victim herself has quite clearly identified him as her boyfriend in an official police report, and even then this isn't good enough for your white knight mindset.

And you and I both know, warmachine isn't getting of this rap and I fail to see how anybody could label me a white knight.  I despise feminism, see it as a toxic fascist ideology and advocate for men's rights at every opportunity.  Also, when you make statements suggesting both parties have participated in porn and should be seen in the same light, it shows your deliberate obfuscations.  One has made a living from porn for years and is well known in the industry and the other has done a few porn flicks for kicks and doesn't have the same reputation in the industry as the other (certainly hasn't made a living from it).  To suggest that their porn careers are somehow parallel is false.  

I pretend nothing.
Your lack of reading comprehension shows through.
Many of these cases (domestic violence) one or both parties will make statements to not get the other in trouble. As they both feed off of one another. They need each other.
I am not trying to show that War Machine is her boyfriend, I am saying that I am skeptical of the info, as their lifestyle is not within the norm. She had said a 15 month on and off relationship, so when are they on, and when are they off. And the guy that she was seeing for two months was in the same business as her.
Also, War Machine got into a fight at a party where he beat up a porn producer because he wasn't getting enough work. Their lives did have some parallels.
They are both dysfunctional people who need one another. Which also why War Machine is trying to be kind to her, and asking everybody else, and writing letters. This is probably the honeymoon phase.

[Radical Plato]

Spare us your mangina propaganda.  Your cycle of violence wheel is beyond comical.  Just the fact it contains the words 'Male Privilege" indicate how ridiculous it is.  This narrative you like to feed everyone of women=victim, man= perpetrator leads me to the conclusion that you are indeed a woman or at worst a thoroughly emasculated male.   Men in the real world know that woman are  the most likely to initiate mental, physical and emotional abuse.  Not only this they contribute to later violence being the most likely to abuse children.  The twisted ideology you are promoting has been one of the greatest causes of modern day family breakdown leading to a slow debilitating social breakdown.  And why has the issue become progressively worse, because feminists continue to sell the idea that women are beyond reproach and their part in abusing others is deemed irrelevant or justified.  It isn't by accident that their is a strong correlation between the rise of feminism and the decline of modern society.

[residue]

Even though I defend warmachine, I don't believe Christy deserved what she got.  I just think that his viewpoint should be taken into consideration.  Had his girlfriend not been a sex industry worker people would have been critical of her for cheating.  But it amazes me that the general public give a porn-star a free ride and believe fidelity shouldn't be expected of such a woman.  But holding such a woman to a lower standard of expectation is how they treat her like a whore.  She doesn't get a free pass to cheat just because she does porn.

she gets a free pass to cheat because she's a fucking adult

[Radical Plato]

she gets a free pass to cheat because she's a fucking adult

You are right, and as an adult she understands their are consequences to her actions.  As an adult you also have the right to provoke a grisly bear, probably not a very smart idea though.

[residue]

Spare us your mangina propaganda.  Your cycle of violence wheel is beyond comical.  Just the fact it contains the words 'Male Privilege" indicate how ridiculous it is.  This narrative you like to feed everyone of women victim, man perpetrator leads me to the conclusion that you are indeed a woman, and the worst of women, a feminazi.  Men in the real world know that woman are  the most likely to initiate mental, physical and emotional abuse.  Not only this they contribute to later violence being the most likely to abuse children.  The twisted ideology you are promoting has been one of the greatest cause of modern day family breakdown leading to a slow debilitating social breakdown.  And why has the issue become progressively worse, because feminists continue to sell the idea that women are beyond reproach and their part in abusing others is deemed irrelevant or justified.  

Yeah, her name is Christine Mackinday.  And I don't think Jon takes the whole ALPHA male stuff to seriously, he drives a Toyota Prius for fucks sake.  But I do agree that he has done his nuts over this thoroughly undeserving woman.  Even now from his prison cell he is professing his undying love for Mack and encouraging his fans not to be critical of her.  I take issue with how easily women can shirk their responsibility when it comes to the feelings of men.  It was obvious Jon had serious feelings for this woman, even wanted to marry her and if she had any decency she would have extracted herself from this relationship before starting another.  Like I said, if this situation was reversed and Christy caught Jon cheating and stabbed him causing serious injury, Jon would be called a loverat and deserving of everything he got.

Well technically, I think it is considered digital rape.  Christy claims he touched her vagina during the assault.  Christy claims warmachine said he was going to rape her but he couldn't achieve an erection.  At some point she claimed to have  over twenty bones in her face broken when the face only contains about 14 bones.  She obviously embellished the truth to garner as much sympathy as possible, and although she is quite well off, she milked a ton of money raising funds for her plight.  If the general public can't see through Christy and her embellishments, then as a society we are doomed and men have no hope.  Like I said. nobody deserves to be treated in such a way and warmachine should be punished, but life in prison is beyond a joke.

Let's just hypothesize the situation was reversed and Christy caught warmachine in bed with another woman and stabbed him causing serious injury.  Nobody would give a flying fuck, they would say warmachine was a piece of shit and deserved it and sympathize with poor Christy who yet again has been exploited and used by a man.  Men can't win either way.  The saddest part of all is that warmachine still professes his undying love for Christy Mack while she will be soon back to riding strangers cocks for money without a care in the world.

tell me more about this mangina

[Radical Plato]

tell me more about this mangina

All you need to know is the man you are calling a mangina would kick your arse with one hand tied behind his back, which makes you a ......

[Parker]

Spare us your mangina propaganda.  Your cycle of violence wheel is beyond comical.  Just the fact it contains the words 'Male Privilege" indicate how ridiculous it is.  This narrative you like to feed everyone of women=victim, man= perpetrator leads me to the conclusion that you are indeed a woman or at worst a thoroughly emasculated male.   Men in the real world know that woman are  the most likely to initiate mental, physical and emotional abuse.  Not only this they contribute to later violence being the most likely to abuse children.  The twisted ideology you are promoting has been one of the greatest causes of modern day family breakdown leading to a slow debilitating social breakdown.  And why has the issue become progressively worse, because feminists continue to sell the idea that women are beyond reproach and their part in abusing others is deemed irrelevant or justified.  It isn't by accident that their is a strong correlation between the rise of feminism and the decline of modern society.

You make too many assumptions.

Those two got together, due to their own issues and insecurities. Have you ever wondered how abused women find abusive men and abusive men find abused women?

And we don't know entirely who initates what, even with stats, because most cases go unreported, and people often times don't want to get the other in trouble. And then what about male/male, female/female cases.

The courts will treat him like a "bad male" her like the victim, they get back together again, same thing probsbly will happen again. When in fact, they both are victims and abusers at the same time.
Don't you get it?
It's nothing about "protecting" her, or being emasculated. It's about shifting through the issue at hand. And it's not a clear cut black and white issue.

And you yourself proved what was on those diagrams by stating Warmachine professes his undying love for the woman he assaulted and now is locked up and on trial for.
The make up phase...
All this dude is doing replaying the eff up relationship he had with his mother.

[Radical Plato]

You make too many assumptions.

Those two got together, due to their own issues and insecurities. Have you ever wondered how abused women find abusive men and abusive men find abused women?

And we don't know entirely who initates what, even with stats, because most cases go unreported, and people often times don't want to get the other in trouble. And then what about male/male, female/female cases.

The courts will treat him like a "bad male" her like the victim, they get back together again, same thing probsbly will happen again. When in fact, they both are victims and abusers at the same time.
Don't you get it?
It's nothing about "protecting" her, or being emasculated. It's about shifting through the issue at hand. And it's not a clear cut black and white issue.

And you yourself proved what was on those diagrams by stating Warmachine professes his undying love for the woman he assaulted and now is locked up and on trial for.
The make up phase...
All this dude is doing replaying the eff up relationship he had with his mother.

You admit then that they are probably both victims and abusers at the same time.  Then why is it only men are punished for this.  If the woman is abusive (and I would argue infidelity could be perceived as a form of abuse) then why are men only ever taken to task.  I have no doubt there are men out their who abuse without any cause but I believe there are just as many women who do also and yet they can do it with impunity due to the nature of the law and modern Western societies placing the woman on a pedestal and beyond reproach.  

The truth is Western society has infantalised women, removing any expectation of responsibility.  Look at this ridiculous 'battered women syndrome' theory.  Such thinking suggests women aren't adult or responsible enough to leave an abusive situation, that they are like helpless little children incapable of taking responsibility and making adult choices.  Mack has claimed that Jon had beaten and raped her before, now why on earth would any ADULT continue to expose themselves to such an individual.  This is how feminism has damaged women, indoctrinated them into believing they are infants incapable of reasoning and good judgement.  

I saw a story the other day stating that Mack's tattoo on her shoulder that reads "Property of war machine" was a disgusting indictment on Jon and evidence of his view on women.  The journo in this case removed any responsibility from the women and blamed her choice of tattoo on her partner.  In this journos mind, Christy is such a hapless victim, she isn't even responsible for the tattoos she gets on her own body.  

The way modern women think is perverse in the extreme, they feel so entitled and are afforded so much privilege they don't believe they have to act as responsible, mature adults.  If they do happen to be caught out in wrongdoing they simply rationlize it away as a mans fault and the rest of society goes along with it.

As for your ridiculous wheel, it loses any credibility when it uses the word 'her' and 'she" to describe the victim.  We all know it is feminist propaganda started by women who believe men are only perpetrators and women only ever victims.  One can only imagine the feminist outrage if you replaced the word 'her' with 'him' and 'she' with 'he' in this blatant propaganda wheel.  The irony is the wheel is so overtly sexist and yet was created by those claiming to fight sexism.

[Parker]

You admit then that they are probably both victims and abusers at the same time.  Then why is it only men are punished for this.  If the woman is abusive (and I would argue infidelity could be perceived as a form of abuse) then why are men only ever taken to task.  I have no doubt there are men out their who abuse without any cause but I believe there are just as many women who do also and yet they can do it with impunity due to the nature of the law and modern Western societies placing the woman on a pedestal and beyond reproach.  

The truth is Western society has infantalised women, removing any expectation of responsibility.  Look at this ridiculous 'battered women syndrome' theory.  Such thinking suggests women aren't adult or responsible enough to leave an abusive situation, that they are like helpless little children incapable of taking responsibility and making adult choices.  Mack has claimed that Jon had beaten and raped her before, now why on earth would any ADULT continue to expose themselves to such an individual.  This is how feminism has damaged women, indoctrinated them into believing they are infants incapable of reasoning and good judgement.  

I saw a story the other day stating that Mack's tattoo on her shoulder that reads "Property of war machine" was a disgusting indictment on Jon and evidence of his view on women.  The journo in this case removed any responsibility from the women and blamed her choice of tattoo on her partner.  In this journos mind, Christy is such a hapless victim, she isn't even responsible for the tattoos she gets on her own body.  

The way modern women think is perverse in the extreme, they feel so entitled and are afforded so much privilege they don't believe they have to act as responsible, mature adults.  If they do happen to be caught out in wrongdoing they simply rationlize it away as a mans fault and the rest of society goes along with it.

Much of what you say, I agree with you. I will leave it at that.

[TrueGrit]

I've been enjoying watching Parker and RP debating. You both make interesting points. A good read.