Phil 'THE GUT' HEATH

[the trainer]

300 pound mass monster no gut.

[yoyolifter]

[Shockwave]

Haney was the only 8XMr.O winner ....yates a new comer ....would you start chasing Yates if you were the most mr.O winner in history ?  why ?





WoooSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH H

Absolutely not. I'd have nothing to prove and retire, especially if I saw a dude coming along who clearly was going to push the envelope, dude was fresh into the sport and already challenging the 8x Mr O for muscularity, and he's only going to keep growing.... time to bow out.

[Disgusted]

These guys today could never get the size they would have needed to compete with the top guys from years ago without using Slin and GH. Therefore guys like Phil would have never been competitive. Just look at pics when he first arrived on the scene. No offence to Phil no doubt he's freaky but I like his look best in 2011 or around there. It catches everyone sooner than later, usually sooner.

[Papper]

Phil has a gift from god growing inside him.

[240 is Back]

These guys today could never get the size they would have needed to compete with the top guys from years ago without using Slin and GH. Therefore guys like Phil would have never been competitive. Just look at pics when he first arrived on the scene. No offence to Phil no doubt he's freaky but I like his look best in 2011 or around there. It catches everyone sooner than later, usually sooner.

Do you think it's caught phil? 

[YngiweRhoads]

Not quite.

Yates won the muscularity ROUND against Haney.

Haney knew where yates was heading, and decided he wasnt willing to do wbat yates was to win.

This.

Haney knew his time was up.

[Disgusted]

Do you think it's caught phil? 

Of course. He's already showing the signs.

[Disgusted]

This.

Haney knew his time was up.

Well when you say his time was up it depends on what you mean. He had already won 8 Olympia's and for him to go any further he would have had to not only up the dose but add in the things. Could he have been bigger and better? I say yes but at what cost for him?

[Cableguy]

Back in the glory days used to be just out of shape women who would say....that's gross. Who would want to look like that? 
Now hardcore bb fans for life say it.
Pro bb barely interests me anymore n that's very sad. Heath looks like he swallowed a beach ball there.

This.

[Nails]

Bodybuilding Royalty Off To Madrid, SPAIN

[Parker]

What this shows is that the alarm has been raised because everybody has been so used to Phil coming in condition with a tight waist. Some may hate him, but nobody can deny that he is pretty consistent when it comes to his conditioning and lack of gut.
What does this gut mean? Well, we have no clue. Some have written him off, that this is the beginning of the end, and it may well be, or it may be a sign for him to get back on track.

[HTexan]

#dead sport

so you're saying phil can suck a golf ball though a water hose?

[Da Freak]

Bodybuilding Royalty Off To Madrid, SPAIN

look at that gut poking out!

or is it the free food?

[Danimal77]

#dead sport

Disgraceful. Yes, Ronnie had a massive gut too, but guess what kiddies? He was RONNIE FUCKING COLEMAN. These pieces of waste would not even be able to shine the shoes of the pros from the 90's.

[Nails]

What year was this Olympia Picture Taken 

[240 is Back]

What year was this Olympia Picture Taken 

October 1962.   Ambassador Coleman had just succssfully talked the parties down from the brink of nuclear confrontation, and smiled for this pose with Italian Prime Minister Fanfani.

[Pet shop boys]

Absolutely not. I'd have nothing to prove and retire, especially if I saw a dude coming along who clearly was going to push the envelope, dude was fresh into the sport and already challenging the 8x Mr O for muscularity, and he's only going to keep growing.... time to bow out.

Lol ....Easy to say it now ,But even if Haney wanted to play the mass game and go for the gut huge lats etc...... what if Yates was another one hit wonder?
point is now you know Yates won the O 5 times but at the the time Haney retired he was the greatest mr.O ever and yates was a nobody

[Royalty]

What year was this Olympia Picture Taken 

1998. Ronnie had bad gyno that year.

[Mr.1derful]

Heath will win again next year.  Get your crying towels out early.

[The_Punisher]

Phil puffs his gut out in a act of dominance.

BWHAHAHAHAHHA.......

[The_Punisher]

Bodybuilding Royalty Off To Madrid, SPAIN

if they knew Mr Olympia was gonna be sitting on this Chair, they would have made it Larger.....oh wait a minute ,the chair is wider than, ah, never mind

[SF1900]

if they knew Mr Olympia was gonna be sitting on this Chair, they would have made it Larger.....oh wait a minute ,the chair is wider than, ah, never mind

The chair is 5.6x Heaths wider than Heath.

[240 is Back]

There is no question that Phil Heath will be back next year to defend his title.  He wants that 5th one.  
Afterwards, it is anyone's guess.    But Phil will not let anyone beat him next year either.

I have a theory that Phil Heath is quietly planning to RETIRE following a WIN at the 2015 Mr. Olympia Contest.  
Let me lay out why I think this is the case:

Company change)
Phil took a nice payday and walked away from a steady contract.  The move shocked many, but would make sense if he only planned to compete for one more year.  The steady check would go away anyway - but locking in a nice % of your own company would be a smart move if you planned on doing that full-time, starting in a year.  

Aging physique)
His body is showing signs of age/expansion in the BBing era now... it's just science, not a knock on Phil.   Midsection growing, arms shrinking a bit.  It happens.  2011 may have been the best Phil we'll see.

Legacy)
Phil is a huge Michael Jordan fan... No doubt, he reveled in the TWO times Jordan went out on top... then came back past his time for dismal Wizards career.  Most huge MJ fans wish he had left on top.   Phil will never go on that stage if he's getting bested by 5 or 6 guys. He'll retire first.  And comparing 2014 to 2011, he has declined, that's not a knock, that's just the effects of BBing lifestyle.  

Health)
Phil's a smart guy.  He knows BBing is a dangerous sport at the top levels, and he's almost 35 and a family man.  He's not a single rock star, willing to ride his body til the wheels fall off.  A decade at the highest level of BBing "supp" use - smart man starts to back off soon.  

They caught him)
Kai's right there.   others are close.   If Phil drops off 2%, he can easily lose on any night now.  Phil isn't unbeatable.  You can ask Iris Kyle if they'll give a retiring multi-champion a parting gift title.  They will.  Phil knows he will win in 2015 if he's off yet retiring on top.  Does anyone here think, after seeing the 2014 show, that Phil is unbeatable in 2 years?

Forward-thinking)
Phil was a computer major in college.  He's been on the right side of everything he's done in Bodybuilding.  He arrived, did the right shows, crashed with Jay to learn the top level ropes, entered and won the right hows every year.  Phil doesn't make mistakes.   Phil doesn't do 'trial and error'.  He's a bright dude, and in a sport as competitive and potentially dangerous as BBing, I think Phil's had his eyes on the Exit door, of what's next, since he entered bodybuilding.  Winning the 5th title, retiring to lead his company to the top, it's the right move.

FIVE sounds right)
Strive for five.   Five-time winner.  Phil's Five Titles.  5X Olympia winner.  Nice round number that puts him in the upper echelon of the sport, but also lets him retire at age 35 and able to keep his health, run a company for a decade or two, and maintain sustained income.  Five time winner just sounds[/s] right.  

So anyway, that's my guess.  I have no 'inside information'.  Just as a fan, looking at Phil's situation, legacy, position and trying to predict his mindset... and of course, Ron's sly comment above, seeing as Phil would give insiders like Ron the wink and the nod...

I think Phil Heath goes out on top and retires after winning the 2015 Mr. Olympia contest.

[Mr.1derful]

I have a theory that Phil Heath is quietly planning to RETIRE following a WIN at the 2015 Mr. Olympia Contest.  
Let me lay out why I think this is the case:

Company change)
Phil took a nice payday and walked away from a steady contract.  The move shocked many, but would make sense if he only planned to compete for one more year.  The steady check would go away anyway - but locking in a nice % of your own company would be a smart move if you planned on doing that full-time, starting in a year.  

Aging physique)
His body is showing signs of age/expansion in the BBing era now... it's just science, not a knock on Phil.   Midsection growing, arms shrinking a bit.  It happens.  2011 may have been the best Phil we'll see.

Legacy)
Phil is a huge Michael Jordan fan... No doubt, he reveled in the TWO times Jordan went out on top... then came back past his time for dismal Wizards career.  Most huge MJ fans wish he had left on top.   Phil will never go on that stage if he's getting bested by 5 or 6 guys. He'll retire first.  And comparing 2014 to 2011, he has declined, that's not a knock, that's just the effects of BBing lifestyle.  

Health)
Phil's a smart guy.  He knows BBing is a dangerous sport at the top levels, and he's almost 35 and a family man.  He's not a single rock star, willing to ride his body til the wheels fall off.  A decade at the highest level of BBing "supp" use - smart man starts to back off soon.  

They caught him)
Kai's right there.   others are close.   If Phil drops off 2%, he can easily lose on any night now.  Phil isn't unbeatable.  You can ask Iris Kyle if they'll give a retiring multi-champion a parting gift title.  They will.  Phil knows he will win in 2015 if he's off yet retiring on top.  Does anyone here think, after seeing the 2014 show, that Phil is unbeatable in 2 years?

Forward-thinking)
Phil was a computer major in college.  He's been on the right side of everything he's done in Bodybuilding.  He arrived, did the right shows, crashed with Jay to learn the top level ropes, entered and won the right hows every year.  Phil doesn't make mistakes.   Phil doesn't do 'trial and error'.  He's a bright dude, and in a sport as competitive and potentially dangerous as BBing, I think Phil's had his eyes on the Exit door, of what's next, since he entered bodybuilding.  Winning the 5th title, retiring to lead his company to the top, it's the right move.

FIVE sounds right)
Strive for five.   Five-time winner.  Phil's Five Titles.  5X Olympia winner.  Nice round number that puts him in the upper echelon of the sport, but also lets him retire at age 35 and able to keep his health, run a company for a decade or two, and maintain sustained income.  Five time winner just sounds[/s] right.  

So anyway, that's my guess.  I have no 'inside information'.  Just as a fan, looking at Phil's situation, legacy, position and trying to predict his mindset... and of course, Ron's sly comment above, seeing as Phil would give insiders like Ron the wink and the nod...

I think Phil Heath goes out on top and retires after winning the 2015 Mr. Olympia contest.

A 90% Phil still gets straight firsts.  Kai who?