Author Topic: "I train hard" (Read 14450 times)

Bast000 · « **on:** February 15, 2006, 09:44:43 AM »

What is this stupidity about "training harder than everyone?"

You can only train your muscles to failure and if you do too many sets you are over-training.

Bodybuilders act like lifting weights is torture when it's fairly easy.

When I hear that phrase it makes me laugh.

BroadStreetBruiser · « **Reply #1 on:** February 15, 2006, 09:47:52 AM »

monster

Condor · « **Reply #2 on:** February 15, 2006, 09:53:58 AM »

I've heard some bodybuilders say that there's no such thing as "overtraining" as well.....and if you think lifting weights is "easy," I think you need to up your intensity quite a bit.

8 INCH not biceps · « **Reply #3 on:** February 15, 2006, 09:57:14 AM »

One of the biggest problems i have is i train too hard sometimes i have to hold myself back.

Bluto · « **Reply #4 on:** February 15, 2006, 10:13:35 AM »

training hard is where it's at. otherwise it would be boring

BroadStreetBruiser · « **Reply #5 on:** February 15, 2006, 10:16:23 AM »

Quote from: Bluto on February 15, 2006, 10:13:35 AM

training hard is where it's at. otherwise it would be boring

you must be really bored then "bluto"

Condor · « **Reply #6 on:** February 15, 2006, 10:17:25 AM »

I said I've heard "some" bodybuilders say this, and it's no more stupid than saying some guys train harder than others. Just look around the gym. And lifting weights is not "fairly easy" as you say. I doubt that Dorian or Mentzer ever referred to it in such a way.

pumpster · « **Reply #7 on:** February 15, 2006, 10:33:33 AM »

He wasn't injured from your definition of over-training involving too many sets. Rather, it was a combo of genetics and very high weight using minimal sets, exacty the opposite of your definition of over-training. Brilliant analysis!

Training briefly but intensely does make a difference.

BroadStreetBruiser · « **Reply #8 on:** February 15, 2006, 10:34:10 AM »

Dorian was a pussy, that's why he got injured. He wasn't "hardcore"

DEFCON · « **Reply #9 on:** February 15, 2006, 10:35:11 AM »

I train hard = I do lots of steroids

pumpster · « **Reply #10 on:** February 15, 2006, 10:35:49 AM »

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Dorian was a pussy, that's why he got injured. He wasn't "hardcore"

Coming from you, that is a worthless statement..

alexxx · « **Reply #11 on:** February 15, 2006, 10:36:35 AM »

I train harder than anybody and have the physique to show it!

pumpster · « **Reply #12 on:** February 15, 2006, 10:37:39 AM »

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Bullshit. He would go to failure, then do extra reps immediately. Yea, real smart.

You're just trying to get a reaction, can't possibly be so dense as to confuse your definition of volume over-training with HIT, which is the opposite. Duh!

Condor · « **Reply #13 on:** February 15, 2006, 10:40:24 AM »

Quote from: Bast000 on February 15, 2006, 10:36:02 AM

Bullshit. He would go to failure, then do extra reps immediately. Yea, real smart.
Also his form wasn't exactly proper either.

Smart or not, his methods obviously worked.....and can certainly be defined as training "harder" than most.

BroadStreetBruiser · « **Reply #14 on:** February 15, 2006, 10:41:01 AM »

Quote from: pumpster on February 15, 2006, 10:35:49 AM

Coming from you, that is a worthless statement..

yeah okay "pumpster" oh brother. I bet your the kinda guy that goes to your local gym with a pink bandana on and some daisy duke hot pants and gets upset you can't find a guy who can spot you on lying leg curls hahahahah fag

Ursus · « **Reply #15 on:** February 15, 2006, 11:16:01 AM »

i have dramatically cut the amount of sets and exercises i have done recently and as my pic thread illustrates it works much better. train smarter, cycle your weights

Bluto · « **Reply #16 on:** February 15, 2006, 11:16:51 AM »

Quote from: Bast000 on February 15, 2006, 10:41:41 AM

Yea but if he trained more properly he would have been the same size minus torn muscles.

how come you know so much about training? even more than people that been doing it for 20+ years on the highest level?
just curious

Bluto · « **Reply #17 on:** February 15, 2006, 11:18:47 AM »

Quote from: Goudy on February 15, 2006, 11:16:01 AM

i have dramatically cut the amount of sets and exercises i have done recently and as my pic thread illustrates it works much better. train smarter, cycle your weights

so if it works for you, it works for everyone else?

excellent.

Farcry · « **Reply #18 on:** February 15, 2006, 11:21:51 AM »

so doing 800 pound squats and walking lunges across parking lots is easy? yeah taht requires no effort i have seen people do without breaking a sweat

Ursus · « **Reply #19 on:** February 15, 2006, 11:22:19 AM »

cycling has been proven to work for everyone. FACT
the fact that i have cut down exercises works for me is just something i have enbcountered. i dont know if it would work for EVERYONE doubt it, just expressin my thoughts

Bluto · « **Reply #20 on:** February 15, 2006, 11:23:38 AM »

bicycling

Adam Empire · « **Reply #21 on:** February 15, 2006, 11:30:08 AM »

I would say it's more about intensity and concentration overall. Being "in the zone" makes for the best workouts IMO.

Bluto · « **Reply #22 on:** February 15, 2006, 11:32:02 AM »

if you dont train hard you should go home, you're an embarrasement not only to the gym but to our species as a whole

brianX · « **Reply #23 on:** February 15, 2006, 11:33:54 AM »

Quote from: Bast000 on February 15, 2006, 10:02:12 AM

ok tough guy.
bodybuilders who say there is no such thing as overtraining are STUPID.
Go do 30 sets of squats to failure every week then tough guy. According to your theory your legs will blow up in size.

Can you even bench 300?

Man of Steel · « **Reply #24 on:** February 15, 2006, 11:40:53 AM »

Quote from: Bast000 on February 15, 2006, 09:44:43 AM

What is this stupidity about "training harder than everyone?"
You can only train your muscles to failure and if you do too many sets you are over-training.
Bodybuilders act like lifting weights is torture when it's fairly easy.
When I hear that phrase it makes me laugh.

This perception is not at all difficult to understand considering the source.....when you're the "queen of the hill" in the "Women Only Room" of the local Gold's the multi-colored, rubber-coated dumbbells and giant swiss balls don't pose much of a threat.

MOS