How come Rockel reminds me more and more of Branch Warren??

[affeman]

 

[DroppingPlates]

You sir are a complete BB-noob.

[Natural Man]

dead by 45 .

[SF1900]

actually, they do look like they have similar structures from the back, albeit, branch is bigger

[Royalty]

I think that Rockel's arms seem to have shrunken a bit... and his midsection looks a bit bigger. His physique lacks the freshness that it used to possess.


But Rockel is 100X better than Branch.

[Charlys69]

pretty much the same colour.....

Branch is a bit taller (i guess 1-2 inches...), with more mass. Proportion of Ronny is better.....but finally and important,
"Branch can speak american-texas-english"...Ronny just german (with "Sachsen"-akzent...), and a bit russian....
Ronny is a bit older than Branch....but Branch looks a bit older than Ronny.
both a married and have a daughter.....both ladies also compete or finished with BB-Contest (Ronnys Wife was IFBB-German National Champion in Female-BB a decade ago...Daniela Herzog...now D. Rockel...)

also Ronny earned 30.000 US Dollar in the last 8 Days....placing 2nd in China and Russia....

[affeman]

also Ronny earned 30.000 US Dollar in the last 8 Days....placing 2nd in China and Russia....

Wow. How much were the travel expenses and contest prep?

[anabolichalo]

Wow. How much were the travel expenses and contest prep?

i think at least $12,000

[dustin]

Wow. How much were the travel expenses and contest prep?

Exactly. Barely break even. If you consider the health implications they're running at a severe deficit that they'll never recoup. Can't put a price on your health.

[Charlys69]

Exactly. Barely break even. If you consider the health implications they're running at a severe deficit that they'll never recoup. Can't put a price on your health.

so your message is, "stop all kind of BB-Shows which are not Natural"....


when this happen, the same internet-users who talk negative before would critizes the Natural-Athletes for looking not so good than before....

so anyway had to clean his own house....and decide how he will practize the sport of Bodybuilding.

i like to do it now some years without anabolics, but on the other side i like to see the big Pros compete, or even the Amateur-Shows.
Only 8 days ago i helped a friend backstage at the German Nationals in Natural-bb (GNBF). This friend was a former world record holder in Benchpress (over 300 kg in the 220 lbs. class), he had many years ago serious health problems (close to death). But he started lifting weights again, and beeing 100 % natural for much more than a decade.

[dustin]

so your message is, "stop all kind of BB-Shows which are not Natural"....


when this happen, the same internet-users who talk negative before would critizes the Natural-Athletes for looking not so good than before....

so anyway had to clean his own house....and decide how he will practize the sport of Bodybuilding.

i like to do it now some years without anabolics, but on the other side i like to see the big Pros compete, or even the Amateur-Shows.
Only 8 days ago i helped a friend backstage at the German Nationals in Natural-bb (GNBF). This friend was a former world record holder in Benchpress (over 300 kg in the 220 lbs. class), he had many years ago serious health problems (close to death). But he started lifting weights again, and beeing 100 % natural for much more than a decade.

Strong fallacy, bro. You infer all that from a sentence-long post? lol

What I'm saying is that dying for the thong for us bitches is not worth it. These guys barely break even (money wise, their health will never be the same) and end up on dialysis or dead, all for a couple of plastic trophies and to entertain a couple thousand schmoes around the world.

I'm a fan of bodybuilding, but I don't like seeing half-dead competitors that are pregnant on stage. Believe me, I want to see tough competitors on stage but when guys push it this hard their physiques fall apart. All for what? Nothing... Rockel looked stunning just a couple of short years ago. I know his health was still on the decline, but at least he still looked good. I was a big fan of his despite his shitty attitude and subsequent shitty placings. Poor guy is a pariah and will never place well in the bigger shows due to politics. At least he's won a couple international ones. Hopefully he's looked for business opportunities elsewhere in the industry because it doesn't look like he's got much longevity wearing the thong.

[Archer77]

Strong fallacy, bro. You infer all that from a sentence-long post? lol

What I'm saying is that dying for the thong for us bitches is not worth it. These guys barely break even (money wise, their health will never be the same) and end up on dialysis or dead, all for a couple of plastic trophies and to entertain a couple thousand schmoes around the world.

I'm a fan of bodybuilding, but I don't like seeing half-dead competitors that are pregnant on stage. Believe me, I want to see tough competitors on stage but when guys push it this hard their physiques fall apart. All for what? Nothing... Rockel looked stunning just a couple of short years ago. I know his health was still on the decline, but at least he still looked good. I was a big fan of his despite his shitty attitude and subsequent shitty placings. Poor guy is a pariah and will never place well in the bigger shows due to politics. At least he's won a couple international ones. Hopefully he's looked for business opportunities elsewhere in the industry because it doesn't look like he's got much longevity wearing the thong.

X2 You pretty much wrote exactly what I was thinking.

[whitewidow]

Strong fallacy, bro. You infer all that from a sentence-long post? lol

What I'm saying is that dying for the thong for us bitches is not worth it. These guys barely break even (money wise, their health will never be the same) and end up on dialysis or dead, all for a couple of plastic trophies and to entertain a couple thousand schmoes around the world.

I'm a fan of bodybuilding, but I don't like seeing half-dead competitors that are pregnant on stage. Believe me, I want to see tough competitors on stage but when guys push it this hard their physiques fall apart. All for what? Nothing... Rockel looked stunning just a couple of short years ago. I know his health was still on the decline, but at least he still looked good. I was a big fan of his despite his shitty attitude and subsequent shitty placings. Poor guy is a pariah and will never place well in the bigger shows due to politics. At least he's won a couple international ones. Hopefully he's looked for business opportunities elsewhere in the industry because it doesn't look like he's got much longevity wearing the thong.

They don't do it for the money! These guys have severe mental and image issues! I know because I had a serious image issue and I blame it on looking up to IFBB pros as a youngster. You guys know how much money I have spent on my physique? food,drugs,gym memberships,chalk and other supplies, def spent a small fortune. I could of bought a house with all the money I spent.actually the drugs eventually come free because if you don;t want to buy them you start selling them to make money and get free gear.

I blame bodybuilding for my drug problems I am dealing with. steroids like tren and halo gave me insomnia so I started on the benzos to sleep, then I started using the oxycontin for pain issues without sleep I couldn't train and with pain I couldn; tain so I used those drugs so I could sleep through the tren insomnia and took painkillers for my neck and back. I also lived such a fucked up boring life for years! all i did was seclude myself and stopped going out and having any fun. I was always busy thinking of some way to enhance my physique and I was constantly monitoring progress. It's like a disease if you really get hooked on achieving a certain image.

other people might think you look insane but you yourself are still never happy. Ive spent last 7 months cleaning up off the painkillers and benzos but now I've been on juice for awhile and training everyday I'm starting to get the image issue coming back. I know alot of guys who spend thousands and thousands of dollars and they win shows and make ZERO$, they do it for pride. It makes sense to maybe a very small amount of people!

That's why I never even competed! I knew I would never make any money and didn't want to spend thousands more just to stand on stage plus no matter what I was not delusional I know i had no chance of going pro even though I knew that and wasn't delusional i still had a serious image problem especially the more attention you get from others when you leave your house those (turning heads) makes you want to even look freakier. I know alot of other people with this image problem. I actually see it as a sickness.

[Archer77]

Do you think they also have to continue to compete to keep their names in circulation, Whitewidow?  They make more money from endorsements than competing.

[whitewidow]

Do you think they also have to continue to compete to keep their names in circulation, Whitewidow?  They make more money from endorsements than competing.

That's all they make money off of! So you better be marketable otherwise you could be a pro and be broke! this isn;t baseball or basketball where no matter what you can make the league minimum wich is still crazy money. even the Olympia prize money is shit of course their sponsors make them compete or they will get dropped. I just don't see much money in bodybuilding. They want their athletes to compete and sell their product but their is so much competeition! so many new supplement companys. Bodybuilders make shit for money!

maybe if your Top five at the Olympia you might be able to make 500,000$ a year if your willing to do alot of guest posing and travel non stop and sorry for a pro athlete who has to use a shitload of AAS and exotics it's just not worth it! That's shit money! a white basketball player can sit the bench the whole year and make close to 500,000 if not more.

[BayGBM]

Decisions decisions... 

[illuminati]

They don't do it for the money! These guys have severe mental and image issues! I know because I had a serious image issue and I blame it on looking up to IFBB pros as a youngster. You guys know how much money I have spent on my physique? food,drugs,gym memberships,chalk and other supplies, def spent a small fortune. I could of bought a house with all the money I spent.

I blame bodybuilding for my drug problems I am dealing with now.

 I was not delusional I know i had no chance of going pro even though I knew that and wasn't delusional i still had a serious image problem especially the more attention you get from others when you leave your house those (turning heads) makes you want to even look freakier. I know alot of other people with this image problem. I actually see it as a sickness.

Why is it you blame bodybuilding..??

You, I & everyone else Make a choice to Do what we do.
We are not Forced into it by anyone.

Your honesty & self Insight are clear you knew what you were doing.

I don't follow why you choose to Blame something That you opted to do.

I'm not trying to preach as I do & have Done many of the things you state,
Only Its my choice & ultimately my Fault.

Peace..

 

[anabolichalo]

what people dont seem to understand is that bodybuilders were gonna bodybuild no matter what

if they can break even with retarded contests then thats a plus

but they would just spend the same money if no competing

they just wanna be the biggest craziest dude around

[whitewidow]

Why is it you blame bodybuilding..??

You, I & everyone else Make a choice to Do what we do.
We are not Forced into it by anyone.

Your honesty & self Insight are clear you knew what you were doing.

I don't follow why you choose to Blame something That you opted to do.

I'm not trying to preach as I do & have Done many of the things you state,
Only Its my choice & ultimately my Fault.

Peace..

 

Def my fault. I just think if I had never even had known about the IFBB I wouldn't of been so obsessed! I used to think LL cool J was buff when I was in my early teens! Then a few years later I so a issue of MD and was just floored! I had never seen any shit like that! I live in Portland,Or we don"t have any IFBB pros walking around or any NPC guys at our local gyms. I have met one serious NPC bodybuilder and he had the sickness worse then me! he was so obsessed with everything! he never did shit but breathe bodybuilding,if he wasn;t in the gym you knew something was very wrong with him because he worked out 7 days a week!

he would go do weird shit guys normally don't do and I am guilty of doing some of the same shit we both would get body hair waxed off wich most guys think is just odd. We both just always had bodybuilding on our minds but he was even a little more obsessed then me. never wanted a family,kids,barely got laid , he was just a very selfish person he put himself and bodybuilding before anything and I did the same thing but not quite to that degree but very close. he loved the attention he got and so did I and he got alot of fucking attention,I did too because I was better looking and just barely smaller,he had me beat in arms and just overall conditoning was crazy,we both pushed it hard, without him in the gym I wouldn't of made it as far because we both pushed each other.

Like I said i only have myself to blame but I always wonder what my life would have been like if i would never had picked up that MD magazine. I even heard about getbig in MD I think kris dim was in the article crying about how guys on getbig were always fucking with him for using synthol so that even got me on this board.

[Cableguy]

Good observation. Rockel used to look pretty good, but now he's obviously done.

[Schnauzer]

Used to look great

[heenok]

Used to look great

amazing physique (no homo)

well hes past his prime now, arms have definitly regressed
but still looks pretty damn good to me

[anabolichalo]

amazing physique (no homo)

well hes past his prime now, arms have definitly regressed
but still looks pretty damn good to me

what causes the arms always to regress on these dudes

it makes me depressed

[illuminati]

Def my fault. I just think if I had never even had known about the IFBB I wouldn't of been so obsessed! I used to think LL cool J was buff when I was in my early teens! Then a few years later I so a issue of MD and was just floored! I had never seen any shit like that! I live in Portland,Or we don"t have any IFBB pros walking around or any NPC guys at our local gyms. I have met one serious NPC bodybuilder and he had the sickness worse then me! he was so obsessed with everything! he never did shit but breathe bodybuilding,if he wasn;t in the gym you knew something was very wrong with him because he worked out 7 days a week!

he would go do weird shit guys normally don't do and I am guilty of doing some of the same shit we both would get body hair waxed off wich most guys think is just odd. We both just always had bodybuilding on our minds but he was even a little more obsessed then me. never wanted a family,kids,barely got laid , he was just a very selfish person he put himself and bodybuilding before anything and I did the same thing but not quite to that degree but very close. he loved the attention he got and so did I and he got alot of fucking attention,I did too because I was better looking and just barely smaller,he had me beat in arms and just overall conditoning was crazy,we both pushed it hard, without him in the gym I wouldn't of made it as far because we both pushed each other.

Like I said i only have myself to blame but I always wonder what my life would have been like if i would never had picked up that MD magazine. I even heard about getbig in MD I think kris dim was in the article crying about how guys on getbig were always fucking with him for using synthol so that even got me on this board.

Chances are we may have found another equally demanding and absorbing pass time to abuse our selves with.
Think it's probably in our genetic make up.

For all its complications & faults I still totally enjoy challenging my self each time I got the gym.

I still haven't learnt to just walk away from it all.  Ha.

[dustin]

what causes the arms always to regress on these dudes

it makes me depressed

It's always the arms, eh? The triceps are the biggest casualty.

I think it's a combination of receptor burn out plus the body just being spent. Liver and kidneys probably can't take it. Something bad happens. I can't explain what, but once a fella hits this point there's no turning back.

There's a huge dude at my gym who's like that. Triceps are absolutely gone. He's over 50 and still conditioned, but he's torn all his muscles and the ones that are still there have virtually disappeared. Frame is big but no muscle volume. I want to be like Hamdi and still shredded when I'm older!