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Re: I just figured something out. Took 56 years!
« Reply #100 on: November 22, 2014, 09:02:20 AM »
I think this is an excellent opportunity for Vince to post up a link to his published article and to also present his theory for open discussion.

We are all willing to learn something new, but first we have to have the material presented to us.

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But we are too stupid to understand the material!

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Re: I just figured something out. Took 56 years!
« Reply #101 on: November 22, 2014, 09:04:55 AM »
But we are too stupid to understand the material!

Honestly, I don't understand what the hold up is now. If Vince published one article surrounding this subject matter, he should take advantage of the fact that he started a thread that is clearly begging for others to unearth his theory and present what he has.

I think this thread should be left up for Vince.

Maybe he is gathering his body of work.

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Re: I just figured something out. Took 56 years!
« Reply #102 on: November 22, 2014, 09:08:46 AM »
Honestly, I don't understand what the hold up is now. If Vince published one article surrounding this subject matter, he should take advantage of the fact that he started a thread that is clearly begging for others to unearth his theory and present what he has.

I think this thread should be left up for Vince.

Maybe he is gathering his body of work.

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He does say hypertrophy has never been studied. How he arrived at his conclusions I don't know. I mean no one has followed his protocols as he admits, so there is no real world evidence of it "working". His subject matter is himself... but he hasn't shown he has grown at all since his competitive days on Dianabol.

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Re: I just figured something out. Took 56 years!
« Reply #103 on: November 22, 2014, 09:12:50 AM »
He does say hypertrophy has never been studied. How he arrived at his conclusions I don't know. I mean no one has followed his protocols as he admits, so there is no real world evidence of it "working". His subject matter is himself... but he hasn't shown he has grown at all since his competitive days on Dianabol.

The crazy thing is that if you go to http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/, you can clearly see that the topic of hypertrophy as it relates to different facets of the human body has been studied in much detail throughout the years.

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Re: I just figured something out. Took 56 years!
« Reply #104 on: November 22, 2014, 09:13:56 AM »
I would like to take this opportunity to get Van Bilderass attention on the matter of the importance of caloric surplus and muscle mass gain. According to the current trend on getbig with the galeniko diet etc, more and more members are believing that a surplus of calories and carbohydrates merely inflate the muscles with glycogen, but does not necessarily grow them or is a requirement for growth. On the other hand I've never met a national level competitor who maintains on less than 4000kcal.

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Re: I just figured something out. Took 56 years!
« Reply #105 on: November 22, 2014, 10:20:02 AM »
It's best to ignore ImBasile.

Is a giant asshole to everyone

and wonders why he gets treated according / commands no respect from anyone.

Not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

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Re: I just figured something out. Took 56 years!
« Reply #106 on: November 22, 2014, 10:44:46 AM »
His theory goes like this: keep the muscle sore constantly. That's it. This will make steroids and other drugs obsolete. Seriously, this is the theory.

vince also notes that his method results in injury as observed while testing it on himself




   
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Re: I just figured something out. Took 56 years!
« Reply #107 on: November 22, 2014, 10:59:06 AM »
The crazy thing is that if you go to http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/, you can clearly see that the topic of hypertrophy as it relates to different facets of the human body has been studied in much detail throughout the years.

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more proof that basile dont know jack shit about the sciemce behind hypertrophy. He will ignore your pist as he did with most of your questions earlier in this thread

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Re: I just figured something out. Took 56 years!
« Reply #108 on: November 22, 2014, 11:07:08 AM »
more proof that basile dont know jack shit about the sciemce behind hypertrophy. He will ignore your pist as he did with most of your questions earlier in this thread

He's one of those people who thinks Getbig is a bunch of idiots other than himself.

In reality this is the most intelligent group of posters to be found in the bb message board community, most moreso than some never-was self-proclaimed expert in hypertrophy.

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Re: I just figured something out. Took 56 years!
« Reply #109 on: November 22, 2014, 11:10:25 AM »
Only a retard wants to get "bigger" over the age of 40. If your pulling out a tape measure measuring your arms while over the age of 40, you may as well just call it a life and end it or at the very least check into a mental hospital...At an older age, people should be training to become healthy...Never bigger...

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Re: I just figured something out. Took 56 years!
« Reply #110 on: November 22, 2014, 11:16:50 AM »
Only a retard wants to get "bigger" over the age of 40. If your pulling out a tape measure measuring your arms while over the age of 40, you may as well just call it a life and end it or at the very least check into a mental hospital...At an older age, people should be training to become healthy...Never bigger...

but whatabout those guys that start out at 40+ maybe they want to take a shot at getting bigger

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Re: I just figured something out. Took 56 years!
« Reply #111 on: November 22, 2014, 11:55:11 AM »
but whatabout those guys that start out at 40+ maybe they want to take a shot at getting bigger


It's retarded. They should only be thinking about getting leaner and healthier. Anything else is mental illness...The evolution of man is not trying to get bigger but "smaller"...

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Re: I just figured something out. Took 56 years!
« Reply #112 on: November 22, 2014, 12:57:53 PM »
Presenting a new theory to people who don't believe what is presented makes no sense at all.

People here are not going to change what they believe so I am literally wasting my time

posting about any theories. That is fine because most of us take our false theories to our graves

oblivious of anything else that might have been better. Knowledge is usually advanced by a few

enlightened individuals. The majority of people will scoff, laugh and make fun of anyone who

discovers something new. I have a strange destiny but will forge ahead by myself unafraid of

obstacles and universal ignorance.



your faith is similar to Jesus on the cross. We will never be able to understand your true wisdom, O mighty Basile.



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Re: I just figured something out. Took 56 years!
« Reply #113 on: November 22, 2014, 01:28:31 PM »
maybe basile is just misunderstood? a lot of geniuses are. and just because he isnt presenting proof doesnt mean he isnt onto something.

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Re: I just figured something out. Took 56 years!
« Reply #114 on: November 22, 2014, 02:10:52 PM »
yes vince should be given a chance to clarify his position

I expect to see something substantive put forward shortly
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Re: I just figured something out. Took 56 years!
« Reply #115 on: November 22, 2014, 02:18:21 PM »
Basile is still fighting for recognition and blue stars. Will he ever reach this nirvana?...

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Re: I just figured something out. Took 56 years!
« Reply #116 on: November 22, 2014, 02:20:06 PM »
The position I would like to see ImBasile take is the middle of the street in oncoming traffic.

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Re: I just figured something out. Took 56 years!
« Reply #117 on: November 22, 2014, 02:21:26 PM »
there are more important things to focus on at your age than the size of your arms.

If I were Vince I'd be worried about the growing list of men in their 50s onwards getting charged for historical sex crimes.

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Re: I just figured something out. Took 56 years!
« Reply #118 on: November 22, 2014, 02:23:30 PM »
If I were Vince I'd be worried about the growing list of men in their 50s onwards getting charged for historical sex crimes.

Basile prefers to keep his sex crimes current

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Re: I just figured something out. Took 56 years!
« Reply #119 on: November 22, 2014, 05:33:40 PM »
If OMR was an expert he wouldn't have to ask those questions. He should do his job and remove defamatory posts instead.

Does one have to be an expert in the matter at hand to ask if another is an expert. If I was looking for someone to preform Lasix surgery do I have
to be an expert in Lasix to want to know what qualifications one has to preform the procedure.

You, Vince, keep calling yourself an expert but what makes you think so? I think these are valid questions from OMR. You may have been involved in bbing as a subject a lot longer than I have simply by virtue of your age but I certainly have been actively training far longer than you have. Actually in the gym doing bbing. I've been training consistently for over 42 years straight now.

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Re: I just figured something out. Took 56 years!
« Reply #120 on: November 22, 2014, 05:38:00 PM »
Basile prefers to keep his sex crimes current

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Re: I just figured something out. Took 56 years!
« Reply #121 on: November 22, 2014, 05:49:58 PM »
Does one have to be an expert in the matter at hand to ask if another is an expert. If I was looking for someone to preform Lasix surgery do I have
to be an expert in Lasix to want to know what qualifications one has to preform the procedure.

You, Vince, keep calling yourself an expert but what makes you think so? I think these are valid questions from OMR. You may have been involved in bbing as a subject a lot longer than I have simply by virtue of your age but I certainly have been actively training far longer than you have. Actually in the gym doing bbing. I've been training consistently for over 42 years straight now.

No, you are mistaken about experts. You assume that someone with qualifications is an expert, but you, personally, have no idea. You literally don't know.

Another specialist would know if that doctor is an expert. That won't stop you from going ahead with a procedure because we get referred, etc, and trust the profession.

I am an expert because I came up with a theory that explained more things about maximum hypertrophy than anything previously. It also explains why so many train hard but do not grow.

You are correct about longevity. Some people never comprehend some things no matter how long they are involved.

I accept that you are also a student of training and have some insights yourself.



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Re: I just figured something out. Took 56 years!
« Reply #122 on: November 22, 2014, 05:50:46 PM »
vince will enlighten the philistines shortly

as soon as he returns from the mountaintop
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Re: I just figured something out. Took 56 years!
« Reply #123 on: November 22, 2014, 06:05:25 PM »
how does a theory explain anything? Its just that, an idea, a guess, not factual, not proven.
People have theories all the time, they don't suddenly claim expert status.
 
No, you are mistaken about experts. You assume that someone with qualifications is an expert, but you, personally, have no idea. You literally don't know.

Another specialist would know if that doctor is an expert. That won't stop you from going ahead with a procedure because we get referred, etc, and trust the profession.

I am an expert because I came up with a theory that explained more things about maximum hypertrophy than anything previously. It also explains why so many train hard but do not grow.

You are correct about longevity. Some people never comprehend some things no matter how long they are involved.

I accept that you are also a student of training and have some insights yourself.




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Re: I just figured something out. Took 56 years!
« Reply #124 on: November 22, 2014, 08:26:42 PM »
how does a theory explain anything? Its just that, an idea, a guess, not factual, not proven.
People have theories all the time, they don't suddenly claim expert status.
 

Some understanding of the philosophy of science would clear up a lot of confusion when using terms like 'theory'.

I use the word theory claiming that if bodybuilders followed my method they would get bigger muscles. I refer mainly

to intermediate bodybuilders and preferably natural ones.

I agree with Mike Mentzer who said that there is one true explanation of any phenomenon. That means there is

one true theory that, when applied, leads to maximum human muscular hypertrophy from training. This theory accounts for all

growth from any and all methods and also the lack of growth from serious bodybuilding.