The original Mentzer Heavy duty workout

[pamith]

Never understood the obsession with manlet Mentzer. He was a mentally weak drug addict who lived a loser's life in the end. Great stache though

Bro...

[Rambone]

Bro...

Bro, the brutal but true truth hurts sometimes my nikka

[pamith]

Bro, the brutal but true truth hurts sometimes my nikka

1 brutal set is all you need, no?

[Rambone]

1 brutal set is all you need, no?

No, bro. No?

[ProudVirgin69]

He quit the forum.

do you have confirmation or just speculation?  I figured a guy who posted here for over 17 years was in it for life, and his last postings didn't really indicate any issues w the site or anything.

If he did quit, good for him.  More support for my theory that making a goodbye post means youre coming back, as those who really quit just stop posting and logging in.

[IroNat]

do you have confirmation or just speculation?  I figured a guy who posted here for over 17 years was in it for life, and his last postings didn't really indicate any issues w the site or anything.

If he did quit, good for him.  More support for my theory that making a goodbye post means youre coming back, as those who really quit just stop posting and logging in.

Someone from the forum was harassing him offline so he stopped posting so as to not risk his employment and reputation.

He is still a member but no longer posts.

[wes]

Someone from the forum was harassing him offline so he stopped posting so as to not risk his employment and reputation.

He is still a member but no longer posts.

That fucking sucks.....good guy, glad to know that he`s OK.

[karasan]

Someone from the forum was harassing him offline so he stopped posting so as to not risk his employment and reputation.

He is still a member but no longer posts.

Thanks for the update, with so many sudden deaths, he was a suspect, all the power to him.

[pamith]

No, bro. No?

Tbh higher volume with a lot less intensity is better, as long as there's progressive overload

[ProudVirgin69]

Someone from the forum was harassing him offline so he stopped posting so as to not risk his employment and reputation.

He is still a member but no longer posts.

Wow that fucking sucks!!! Don’t know why scumbags gotta take it offline to harass people and interfere w their real lives.  Now the board is down ANOTHER solid member.  I don’t blame him though, I’d have done the same thing.

That fucking sucks.....good guy, glad to know that he`s OK.

x2

Thanks for the update, with so many sudden deaths, he was a suspect, all the power to him.

x2

[Rmj11]

Whoa, slow down there, slugger. 

I used to be a foreman for my family's water-sewer pipe construction company.  In those days (early 2000s), Mexicans were rapidly replacing black guys on most construction jobs.

Not so for Haynes Construction.  We had a core group of men who had been with the company since my late, great father turned the reigns over to me.  I'd grown up with some of these guys and regarded them like family.

One day, we were working on a new subdivision, and some asshole that lived almost a mile away rolled up and started screaming at my crew.  This putz ranted about all manner of irrational nonsense until I told him to fuck off.

I was mad about it the rest of the day until June "Bug" came to me and said, "Don't you fret that man.  You take a man who think he know everything, and he don't know a goddamned thing."

I don't pretend to know everything, by a long shot.  However:

Where was it written that a HIT trainer can't warm up? 

He did six to eight hard work sets.  The ones preceding them were not too hard.

In fairness, that's not altogether different from moderate volume training routines. 

However, I have read his training manual, and you exaggerate.  Why?

I'm not wrong. 

I've no axe to grind with you, mate, but you seem overly hung up on training volume, be it stupidly high (the Defendis sort) or low. 

Samir Bannout also trained with Mike and Ray.  They were friends.  Samir noted that the Mentzer's sessions were shorter than his because he did an extra set or two beyond where they stopped.  If memory serves, he said Mike would finish his session in about 30-45 minutes (which is consistent with Pollock's recollection); and Samir, 45 min. to an hour.

I have little problem with his training recommendations up to and including what he outlined in his '92 edition of _Heavy Duty_.  It's not perfect, but it served me well enough as a teen.  What came after...Oy.  Resting a week between sessions, and only doing 2-3 movements per workout?

As Trevor Smith said, that shit went into outer space.

Yes, you are wrong.

[Gym Rat]

That fucking sucks.....good guy, glad to know that he`s OK.

oldtimer1 is back.. A great guy too...

[Titus Pullo]

Yes, you are wrong.

Okay Rimjob. 

See you next month!