Author Topic: Hyprocrital FLEX mag, Team Flex: BITE MY BALLS (Read 7106 times)

bic_staedtler · « **on:** February 22, 2006, 07:47:01 PM »

Just finished reading that piece of crap Hard Times article in the recent FLEX regarding the Titus Ryan debacle.

FULL of hypocrisy....taking potshots at the two faces who basically sold more FLEX mags over the years than most! How many swimsuit issues, training articles....until Titus left for MD that is.

The article goes on to speak in "I told ya so!" undertones, taking shots at the after parties, their 'sneering' hosts, and the "underbelly" of a "sport" that needs to be exposed and healed.

What shite! After parties were the LEAST of the bad PR regarding drugs in this 'sport'...and to basically write of the two as guilty right off the bat just smacks of prejudice against the couple...YET, months prior, you've got an article about friggin' Betil Fox, CONVICTED double murderer, asking readers to "consider" his side!

I wonder if FLEX will offer Titus and Ryan the same treatment. I think not! Fucking hypocrites!

Brutal_1 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 22, 2006, 08:25:23 PM »

Wow, I can't believe this thread hasn't been deleted yet

suckmymuscle · « **Reply #2 on:** February 22, 2006, 09:18:20 PM »

Quote from: bic_staedtler on February 22, 2006, 07:47:01 PM

Just finished reading that piece of crap Hard Times article in the recent FLEX regarding the Titus Ryan debacle.
FULL of hypocrisy....taking potshots at the two faces who basically sold more FLEX mags over the years than most! How many swimsuit issues, training articles....until Titus left for MD that is.
The article goes on to speak in "I told ya so!" undertones, taking shots at the after parties, their 'sneering' hosts, and the "underbelly" of a "sport" that needs to be exposed and healed.
What shite! After parties were the LEAST of the bad PR regarding drugs in this 'sport'...and to basically write of the two as guilty right off the bat just smacks of prejudice against the couple...YET, months prior, you've got an article about friggin' Betil Fox, CONVICTED double murderer, asking readers to "consider" his side!
I wonder if FLEX will offer Titus and Ryan the same treatment. I think not! Fucking hypocrites!

Yes, FLEX's "holier than thou" attitude is very annoying. Also, I'm tired of Peter McGough, insulting their readers every month, with his editorials about how bodybuilding success is all about genes and not drugs

. Sure, very few people would ever look like Dorian or Ronnie, irespective of the amount of drugs they take. Fine! This does not change the fact, though, that Ronnie an Dorian would carry some 70 or 80 lbs less mass, if they were completely clean. While their flow and taper of muscle is the result of their genes-and some of their mass, too-, most of their monstrous mass is IMPOSSIBLE to be achieved, without anabolics of all kinds. Sorry, but there are no genes that can make a man carry 100 lbs more of lean mass than the average man! No gene would allow for such an incredible degree of protein synthesis!

SUCKMYMUSCLE

bic_staedtler · « **Reply #3 on:** February 22, 2006, 10:52:00 PM »

I wouldn't go so far as to have FLEX be completely 'honest' about the steroids. But at that expense, you'd think they'd be a bit more even in their treatment of all issues bodybuilding, especially of two of their 'previous' own.

If you read a lot of FLEX, they occasionally do make admissions of the steroids required....just not directly.

And if they were really out in the open about not only the genetics but the chemicals it took to compete then they'd be killing the sport for all, and sales would plummet. They can't do it. MD barely does it! For all their talk and pussyfooting around steroids, RARELY do they talk about steroid use in the detail some readers would like for the EXACT same reasons FLEX doesn't. I still think it's pathetic how they're portraying the Titus couple though....and pen the article by "Team Flex" so we can't call out the actual writers for who they are. The only time FLEX even MENTIONS after parties in it's pages and they wait till NOW to talk about it. And I'm sure more than a few of their staff attended these parties and had a great "excessive" time.

suckmymuscle · « **Reply #4 on:** February 23, 2006, 01:22:43 AM »

Quote from: bic_staedtler on February 22, 2006, 10:52:00 PM

I wouldn't go so far as to have FLEX be completely 'honest' about the steroids. But at that expense, you'd think they'd be a bit more even in their treatment of all issues bodybuilding, especially of two of their 'previous' own.
If you read a lot of FLEX, they occasionally do make admissions of the steroids required....just not directly.
And if they were really out in the open about not only the genetics but the chemicals it took to compete then they'd be killing the sport for all, and sales would plummet. They can't do it. MD barely does it! For all their talk and pussyfooting around steroids, RARELY do they talk about steroid use in the detail some readers would like for the EXACT same reasons FLEX doesn't. I still think it's pathetic how they're portraying the Titus couple though....and pen the article by "Team Flex" so we can't call out the actual writers for who they are. The only time FLEX even MENTIONS after parties in it's pages and they wait till NOW to talk about it. And I'm sure more than a few of their staff attended these parties and had a great "excessive" time.

Ok. Since you use the words "bodybuilding" and "sport" in the same sentence, I think there's nothing left to discuss.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Purge_WTF · « **Reply #5 on:** February 23, 2006, 08:38:11 AM »

Quote from: bic_staedtler on February 22, 2006, 07:47:01 PM

Just finished reading that piece of crap Hard Times article in the recent FLEX regarding the Titus Ryan debacle.
FULL of hypocrisy....taking potshots at the two faces who basically sold more FLEX mags over the years than most! How many swimsuit issues, training articles....until Titus left for MD that is.
The article goes on to speak in "I told ya so!" undertones, taking shots at the after parties, their 'sneering' hosts, and the "underbelly" of a "sport" that needs to be exposed and healed.
What shite! After parties were the LEAST of the bad PR regarding drugs in this 'sport'...and to basically write of the two as guilty right off the bat just smacks of prejudice against the couple...YET, months prior, you've got an article about friggin' Betil Fox, CONVICTED double murderer, asking readers to "consider" his side!
I wonder if FLEX will offer Titus and Ryan the same treatment. I think not! Fucking hypocrites!

Whatever you say, Romano.

Brutal_1 · « **Reply #6 on:** February 23, 2006, 11:55:36 AM »

Quote from: Brutal_1 on February 22, 2006, 08:25:23 PM

Wow, I can't believe this thread hasn't been deleted yet

Woops, spoke too soon.

240's comment was deleted

240 is Back · « **Reply #7 on:** February 23, 2006, 11:57:41 AM »

Quote from: Brutal_1 on February 23, 2006, 11:55:36 AM

Woops, spoke too soon. 240's comment was deleted

I know. I presented a logical argument which wasn't offensive.

Yet the gay jokes are allowed on every thread in here.

Charming.

bic_staedtler · « **Reply #8 on:** February 24, 2006, 02:19:16 PM »

Well, I didn't see any deleted threads either. I was just pissed about the shitty article.

But now I see my thread on Gregg the Idiot Valentino got nuked, for reasons unknown. Hmm, no gaybashing or nazi loving going on there, wonder why.

Noze · « **Reply #9 on:** February 25, 2006, 10:55:54 AM »

Quote from: bic_staedtler on February 22, 2006, 07:47:01 PM

Just finished reading that piece of crap Hard Times article in the recent FLEX regarding the Titus Ryan debacle.
FULL of hypocrisy....taking potshots at the two faces who basically sold more FLEX mags over the years than most! How many swimsuit issues, training articles....until Titus left for MD that is.

I have almost every copy of Flex since the year 2000 and Graig Titus pics (or articles) are VERY hard to find. Also I don`t think he has ever been in the cover of that mag.

So I don`t think that Titus/Ryan really affected to the sales of Flex magazine. Even more so with the swimsuit issues since Ryan is no beauty and there were/are always ladies who way better looking than she is (was).

Crusher · « **Reply #10 on:** February 25, 2006, 12:59:27 PM »

Quote from: Purge_WTF on February 23, 2006, 08:38:11 AM

Whatever you say, Romano.

that makes Romano like 30 different guys now...

hillbilly · « **Reply #11 on:** February 25, 2006, 01:56:06 PM »

Quote from: G o a t b o y on February 25, 2006, 01:51:35 PM

Let's see how long this takes:
Seig heil!

25mins and counting

240 is Back · « **Reply #12 on:** February 25, 2006, 01:56:26 PM »

Quote from: bic_staedtler on February 24, 2006, 02:19:16 PM

Hmm, no gaybashing or nazi loving going on there, wonder why.

Shawn Ray once had intercourse with a being that was neither really woman, nor really man.

(Race ya, Goat!)

hillbilly · « **Reply #13 on:** February 25, 2006, 01:58:56 PM »

I bet that flag wud have been deleted by now if 240 posted it!

240 is Back · « **Reply #14 on:** February 25, 2006, 02:00:03 PM »

Quote from: hillbilly on February 25, 2006, 01:58:56 PM

I bet that flag wud have been deleted by now if 240 posted it!

dude, shawn and bob follow me around like a tranny with a snatchful of coke!

bic_staedtler · « **Reply #15 on:** February 25, 2006, 04:45:26 PM »

....Me?...Romano?....I'm touched. I used to read MD for a few years, but gave up on it. I'll flip through it in Chapters though.

Oliver Klaushof · « **Reply #16 on:** February 25, 2006, 04:51:23 PM »

Quote from: suckmymuscle on February 22, 2006, 09:18:20 PM

Yes, FLEX's "holier than thou" attitude is very annoying. Also, I'm tired of Peter McGough, insulting their readers every month, with his editorials about how bodybuilding success is all about genes and not drugs . Sure, very few people would ever look like Dorian or Ronnie, irespective of the amount of drugs they take. Fine! This does not change the fact, though, that Ronnie an Dorian would carry some 70 or 80 lbs less mass, if they were completely clean. While their flow and taper of muscle is the result of their genes-and some of their mass, too-, most of their monstrous mass is IMPOSSIBLE to be achieved, without anabolics of all kinds. Sorry, but there are no genes that can make a man carry 100 lbs more of lean mass than the average man! No gene would allow for such an incredible degree of protein synthesis!
SUCKMYMUSCLE

Couldn't have said it better. It's simple and I don't know why people argue about it. Maybe they are just thick? Drugs have a bigger impact than genetics. Genetics only comes into play when you have two people taking equally insane amounts of drugs.

bigdumbbell · « **Reply #17 on:** February 25, 2006, 05:03:04 PM »

nobody believes the garbage they print as truth.

Croatch · « **Reply #18 on:** February 25, 2006, 06:32:13 PM »

Quote

Yes, FLEX's "holier than thou" attitude is very annoying. Also, I'm tired of Peter McGough, insulting their readers every month, with his editorials about how bodybuilding success is all about genes and not drugs . Sure, very few people would ever look like Dorian or Ronnie, irespective of the amount of drugs they take. Fine! This does not change the fact, though, that Ronnie an Dorian would carry some 70 or 80 lbs less mass, if they were completely clean. While their flow and taper of muscle is the result of their genes-and some of their mass, too-, most of their monstrous mass is IMPOSSIBLE to be achieved, without anabolics of all kinds. Sorry, but there are no genes that can make a man carry 100 lbs more of lean mass than the average man! No gene would allow for such an incredible degree of protein synthesis!

Agreed. The sport is a combination of gh/igf/gear. My problem with it is you take a set of twins:
(A) takes gh/igf/gear, trains kind of hard...but not really, diet is ok...nothing crazy, does recreational drugs.
(B) takes glutamine, breaks his ass in the gym, diet is on point year round, clean lifestyle.
I would put my money on A to have better gains. And that's the sad fact about bodybuilding. You don't need to do much other than have a mediocre regiment, while ingesting a ton of shit to see results. That's the beauty of music, there are NO shortcuts.
The Parrot

hillbilly · « **Reply #19 on:** February 25, 2006, 06:48:19 PM »

Quote from: Croatch on February 25, 2006, 06:32:13 PM

Agreed. The sport is a combination of gh/igf/gear. My problem with it is you take a set of twins:
(A) takes gh/igf/gear, trains kind of hard...but not really, diet is ok...nothing crazy, does recreational drugs.
(B) takes glutamine, breaks his ass in the gym, diet is on point year round, clean lifestyle.
I would put my money on A to have better gains. And that's the sad fact about bodybuilding. You don't need to do much other than have a mediocre regiment, while ingesting a ton of shit to see results. That's the beauty of music, there are NO shortcuts.
The Parrot

ok 'A' may make more gains but alot of guys on gear train just as hard as any nat! harder even becus quicker recovery allows them to!

bic_staedtler · « **Reply #20 on:** February 25, 2006, 10:30:47 PM »

I don't know how this thread turned into a platform for the obvious, but yes, example A will make better gains.

There are very few of todays bb'ers who train with the full intensity that steroids allows...then again, some do and pay the consequences with tears and other injury.

That's why many proponents of the old school who advocate 5 years training...but who the hell does that anymore?...