Equipiose Paranoia

[mazfit]

someone who has run eq before can chime in

added in 10 days ago front loaded 2g for a dose of 1g week

never with any steroid... even tren at over a gram have i felt paranoia and anxiety like this.
im not gna start popping xanax just to deal with this lol

anyone else seen this?

does it get better time on it or am i best too....

for the first time im going to say - going to drop the dose t and see how i am because this anxiety isnt nice atall

ive been told to ride it out, but its pretty fucking intense tbh.

thoughts?

[Jizmo]

only ran EQ once for like 20 weeks or so at 500mg

everytime i layed down in my bed i had a pounding headache from high BP

and anytime i ordered "supplements" i thought the popo would come and get me lol
got anxious any time i heard a fuking police siren on the street

shit stuff

[BigRo]

front loading 2gms is not the best way to get going with EQ, you need to gradually increase the dose over a few weeks.

[whitewidow]

someone who has run eq before can chime in

added in 10 days ago front loaded 2g for a dose of 1g week

never with any steroid... even tren at over a gram have i felt paranoia and anxiety like this.
im not gna start popping xanax just to deal with this lol

anyone else seen this?

does it get better time on it or am i best too....

for the first time im going to say - going to drop the dose t and see how i am because this anxiety isnt nice atall

ive been told to ride it out, but its pretty fucking intense tbh.

thoughts?

For me it was Halo and tren and I went down the valium road but I ended up getting fucked and i take them pretty much daily now to sleep. It should go away with some time so 1 week and if it dosn't lower the dosage. seems there is a pill for everything and that's why I started using valium and eventually xanax when I ran out of xanax, stay away from those drugs and just rough it out or drop the dose. if it gets bad enough to the point you need valium iy's probably not a great drug for your body.

I know some of you guys might say I am full of shit but alot of IFBB pros and amateurs do use valium or xanax to calm down and sleep at night. they won;t talk about it in public of course but I have met quite a few who do have to use xanax r valium just to be able to sleep like a regular person.

[mazfit]

probably shouldnt of front loaded....but as i have with every other drug though it ok to.
just going to ride it out.

Jizmo - last night in bed i woke up with a pounding headache like my head was gna expload.
my blood pressure has always been decent on grams of test tren and npp/deca

used to use xanax i couldnt cope with the metalic taste in my mouth when eating and drinking
and the brain zaps when i stopped taking them.


lower dose and gradually increase is the best way.

spoke

its propa shit paranoia like - mrs didnt text me, usually dont care in the slightest
today - in my shes shagging someone else  or has met someone else haha - so i start texting random birds in my contacts i havent spoke to for a long time, asking them if they wanna come over later watch a film.....

then realise.........what the fuck am i doing lol

[Jizmo]

yeah i dont even wanna know what my BP was on that shit

im usually 130-140/80 or so while on grams of test/tren/npp
add anadrol and it can go up close to 150
but i NEVER get headaches or nosebleeds

i think i ran EQ with test and tren at 500 each back then
and yeah same as you, i thought my head was gonna explode every time i layed down or got up

like a wicked pounding inside your brain, really bad feeling

since i never get headaches even at 150/90 BP i dont even wanna know what the fuck my BP was when i was on EQ
systolic mustve been 180 or so lol

[heenok]

I am 7 weeks in my first test EQ cycle at 500/600mg each

EQ definitly increased my anxiety levels. Not like feeling anxious all the time for no reason but a little trivial thing can trigger some paranoid thoughs.
Im also more irritable and agressive.
My BP is up and im guessing my hematocrit i dont want to know lol

In terms of gains i dont really see anything dramatic, some strengh some muscle but nothing like my first test cycle.
I will wait till the end of the 16 weeks to really make my opinion on EQ.

Probably not going to use it again since it seems to give me really fucked up acne too, test is just so much more effective and fun to run.

[mazfit]

noticed any increased fullness yet?

[spiro]

Eq gave me the worst side out of any compound I've ever used. I really like the way I looked. But by week 8 I had some of the worst panic attacks. My blood pressure was so high. It's funny because some people can tolerate it and have no sides. Others get destroyed by it.

[gettingbetter]

Seriously, you should consider trying Tianeptine (Stablon) when you have issues with androgen related side effects on your mood. It has an immaculate safety profile, no real side effects (if you stick with 12,5mg x3 ), has almost an immediate effect and no withdrawal when you come off of it. It can also reverse damage from stress in the hypothalamus (a really good thing) and enhance neuroplasticity by helping you secrete BDNF.

It is legal to buy in the united states or in Canada as it is not scheduled.

Ceretropic.com has it. Powdercity also.


Here are some studies:

http://www.tianeptine.com/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11463130

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11463130

I highly recommend it when coming off a cycle or when you have issues with anger/irritability. It turns shitty days into good ones. I use it only sporadically when I feel very shitty and it really helps. Strangely enough, in the last month, I found I needed it less and less...

[whitewidow]

I guess AAS hits everybody diffrent. I just shot a gram of EQ right now and I feel fine. I shot 2CC's(500mg) in each medial delt.I also am on my Tren and am shooting about 500mg a week sometimes just 400mg a week. It seems I can go through tren so easy. I have some real good anavar and dbol but I cutt out the dbol and am just using the anavar, the pumps are very painful! I'm going to try to drink more water while I train. I want to get in-shape earlier this year. I don't compete but I like looking good for the summer!

If I can really peak out right I might compete in a small show next year. I know bodybuilding is a sport but comparing abs and thighs just seems weird to me I rather be playing some football or playing some baseball. I def have alot of respect for people who do compete.

[spiro]

Seriously, you should consider trying Tianeptine (Stablon) when you have issues with androgen related side effects on your mood. It has an immaculate safety profile, no real side effects (if you stick with 12,5mg x3 ), has almost an immediate effect and no withdrawal when you come off of it. It can also reverse damage from stress in the hypothalamus (a really good thing) and enhance neuroplasticity by helping you secrete BDNF.

It is legal to buy in the united states or in Canada as it is not scheduled.

Ceretropic.com has it. Powdercity also.


Here are some studies:

http://www.tianeptine.com/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11463130

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11463130

I highly recommend it when coming off a cycle or when you have issues with anger/irritability. It turns shitty days into good ones. I use it only sporadically when I feel very shitty and it really helps. Strangely enough, in the last month, I found I needed it less and less...

Got a link for a source?

[Jizmo]

Got a link for a source?

he mentioned two sources 

[spiro]

he mentioned two sources 

Whoops lol

[a_ahmed]

i experience paranoia for the first two weeks injecting deca then i feel like a boss afterwards. The only steroid that does this to me. Equipoise only makes my blood pressure through the roof, so I don't bother. I do like the look on equipose and the vascularity but meh.

[BigRo]

what is it about equipose that makes it increase blood pressure more than others?

I was running 800mg of it for a couple months last year really liked it, no headaches or anxiety.

[spiro]

what is it about equipose that makes it increase blood pressure more than others?

I was running 800mg of it for a couple months last year really liked it, no headaches or anxiety.

I know man it's weird. There's guys on 15s forum running 3 grams of eq no problems! I would probably die of a blood clot.

[mazrim]

Been running 1200-1400mg for a few months now. No issues. This last two weeks went up to 2400ish just because sometimes I do that when getting to the end of a vial to see what happens. Still none except for occasional headache.

[Thong Maniac]

what is it about equipose that makes it increase blood pressure more than others?

I was running 800mg of it for a couple months last year really liked it, no headaches or anxiety.

Was likely fake then

[heenok]

Been running 1200-1400mg for a few months now. No issues. This last two weeks went up to 2400ish just because sometimes I do that when getting to the end of a vial to see what happens. Still none except for occasional headache.

what are the effects at tha dosage ?

[tatoo]

what is it about equipose that makes it increase blood pressure more than others?

I was running 800mg of it for a couple months last year really liked it, no headaches or anxiety.

eq thickens the blood. I have a friend that used anywhere from 600-1200mgs per week for years and years.... his bp was terrible.  eventually he had a heart attack but survived. the doctor told him his blood was the consistency of corn syrup due to using eq.. 

[mazrim]

what are the effects at tha dosage ?

1200ish is probably the dose I like the best of the two as at the higher dose started to have to use arimidex as bloat a bit too much for my liking. Shoulders and traps increasing but traps probably because I've started deadlifting a bit again. Currently using it in place of test. Ran it at 600mg a long time ago and didn't like it and said I would never use it again, but at this dose I love it. So far feel much better using it then test but that could obviously change the longer I'm on it.

[whitewidow]

eq thickens the blood. I have a friend that used anywhere from 600-1200mgs per week for years and years.... his bp was terrible.  eventually he had a heart attack but survived. the doctor told him his blood was the consistency of corn syrup due to using eq.. 

He should of know that EQ raises your RBC count and took some baby aspirin everyday. That is what I do. even on dianabol your red blood cell count will go high. opposite compounds but structurally very same. I had 4 Alpha-Pharma amps of EQ left and instead of shooting just 500mg twice a week i just shot the whole gram. They were amps so I did 4 shots of just EQ and then I did a shot 1CC of tren and 1CC Watson Test cypionate.

def best to take baby aspirin when taking anabolics that thicken the blood. I tend to switch compounds pretty frequently so a drug like EQ I would not run for more then 8-10 weeks. I am really looking forward to this cutt cycle I have lined up. I am gong to post a picture later of my cutting drugs  so you guys can all go to bed with chubbys.

[spiro]

He should of know that EQ raises your RBC count and took some baby aspirin everyday. That is what I do. even on dianabol your red blood cell count will go high. opposite compounds but structurally very same. I had 4 Alpha-Pharma amps of EQ left and instead of shooting just 500mg twice a week i just shot the whole gram. They were amps so I did 4 shots of just EQ and then I did a shot 1CC of tren and 1CC Watson Test cypionate.

def best to take baby aspirin when taking anabolics that thicken the blood. I tend to switch compounds pretty frequently so a drug like EQ I would not run for more then 8-10 weeks. I am really looking forward to this cutt cycle I have lined up. I am gong to post a picture later of my cutting drugs  so you guys can all go to bed with chubbys.

Or give blood whenever they let you.

[oni]

what is it about equipose that makes it increase blood pressure more than others?

I was running 800mg of it for a couple months last year really liked it, no headaches or anxiety.

It increases EPO