How was Shawn Ray never Mr. Olympia?

[NarcissisticDeity]

shhh.. ND doesn't see that when comparing the scorecard from the 90 olympia vs the 94 olympia..

what a tool.

Let's compare when he's actually flexing  See Parker gets the benefit of the doubt because you're infamous for posting pictures of Yates unflexed because you're to scared to compare them side-by-side

I'm still laughing at Shawn is better than Lee Labrada despite Lee beating him 4-out-5 times LMFAO

[Royalty]

Shawn's lower body in better "condition"...and check those diamond calves.

Shawn gave up too much back mass & lat width.

Shawn had better conditioned hamstrings than Lee Haney or Flex Wheeler... but they trumped Shawn on back mass & width

[NarcissisticDeity]

Shawn gave up too much back mass & lat width.

Shawn had conditioned hamstrings than Lee Haney or Flex Wheeler... but they trumped Shawn on back mass & width

True , better hams & calves than Flex and still lost

[njflex]

True , better hams & calves than Flex and still lost

both look insane...

[NarcissisticDeity]

both look insane...

Flex admitted his conditioning in 1993 wasn't as good as it had been because he cleaned up in the spring shows but he was off and still trampled Shawn

[Parker]

True , better hams & calves than Flex and still lost

Flex=the difference between 218 at the O and 216 at the Arnold.
These weights are from what I believe was an interview from Joe McNeil who was responsible for Flex's 92-93 condition.

[Royalty]

The president is about to enter this early 90's debate

[NarcissisticDeity]

Flex=the difference between 218 at the O and 216 at the Arnold.
These weights are from what I believe was an interview from Joe McNeil who was responsible for Flex's 92-93 condition.

The difference is he was worn out by the time of the Olympia , trying to replicate your conditioning from contest to contest is next to impossible. Shawn only competed once in 1993 and was fresh , Flex competed 6 times in 1993

[Royalty]

Cool pic from 1996. Yates & Ray

[NarcissisticDeity]

Cool pic from 1996. Yates & Ray

I like how that site steals all my scans puts his watermark and passes them off his own 

[Royalty]

1996: Yates, Nasser, Ray

[njflex]

1996: Yates, Nasser, Ray

front and rear lat spread yates probably snapped into that pose like no other 'coleman/haney as well'colemans front lat spread wasn't particular as flowing as yates/haney,,to the read double bi shot even here on video ray looks better overall flow wise ,yates rear double bi was never pretty due to arms and delts being good not great from the rear,upper back to mid/lower he carried that pose due to his remainder back portions being incredible..

[Hulkster]

yates rear double bi was never pretty due to arms and delts being good not great from the rear,upper back to mid/lower he carried that pose due to his remainder back portions being incredible..

true, thats part of why when comparing Coleman and Yates in the rear double bi, Coleman has a distinct edge, those arms and delts being far superior help a lot.

[njflex]

true, thats part of why when comparing Coleman and Yates in the rear double bi, Coleman has a distinct edge, those arms and delts being far superior help a lot.

amazing that at that time yates was the 'back man'drew an ovation when he hit lat spreads,but rear double bi looks like its on a different bber,,,

[NarcissisticDeity]

front and rear lat spread yates probably snapped into that pose like no other 'coleman/haney as well'colemans front lat spread wasn't particular as flowing as yates/haney,,to the read double bi shot even here on video ray looks better overall flow wise ,yates rear double bi was never pretty due to arms and delts being good not great from the rear,upper back to mid/lower he carried that pose due to his remainder back portions being incredible..

I see the opposite , Shawn's rear double biceps shot showcases heavyweight's arms & delts and a middleweights back with huge quads that dominate his undersized calves relative to them. Yates was a tad flat that year and when he was lighter his delts seemed to get smaller and less rounded

You'll be hard pressed to find a better more complete back double biceps shot than this

[NarcissisticDeity]

true, thats part of why when comparing Coleman and Yates in the rear double bi, Coleman has a distinct edge, those arms and delts being far superior help a lot.

270lbs vs 244lbs lol Dorian tramples Ronnie-lite

[njflex]

I see the opposite , Shawn's rear double biceps shot showcases heavyweight's arms & delts and a middleweights back with huge quads that dominate his undersized calves relative to them. Yates was a tad flat that year and when he was lighter his delts seemed to get smaller and less rounded

You'll be hard pressed to find a better more complete back double biceps shot than this

he looks great there and he always flattened /less fuel on stage exceept 96 euro tour looked insane,,but he still has a less lat flair/taper on outer edges to waist of his lats its staight a bit down,when he does lat spread it goes and goes 'wide'.

[Earl1972]

this is one of the greatest bb pics ever IMO:

why?  he looks tiny and that's just standing by himself, where he typically looks his best

he was a top 6 guy in the best era ever but i don't see how anybody can think he deserved to be Mr. Olympia, he didn't even deserve his two 2nd place finishes

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[NarcissisticDeity]

why?  he looks tiny and that's just standing by himself, where he typically looks his best

he was a top 6 guy in the best era ever but i don't see how anybody can think he deserved to be Mr. Olympia, he didn't even deserve his two 2nd place finishes

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He was lucky to place ahead of Kevin in 94 , who was ahead of Shawn after the prejudging

[Parker]

[LurkerNoMore]

Shawn and Lee both had incredible physiques.  Either of those two at 212 would kick the ass of the entire line up of the sorry ass 212 we are seeing now.

[DanM]

What I don't understand is how going by the actual rulebook, is how Dorian had won his last few Mr.O contests. They have several mandatory poses that are judged, surely having badly torn muscles should effect multiple different poses. I mean his bicep being torn to shit was visible in almost every one and would detract from the pose itself. Having him win with perfect scores while having torn muscles and being beat to shit pretty much tells you all you need to know about the corrupt judging. I understand why he won the first few but after the tears and gut came into place more complete guys like shawn, flex and even nassar that one year should have placed ahead of him.

[TheShape.]

I see the opposite , Shawn's rear double biceps shot showcases heavyweight's arms & delts and a middleweights back with huge quads that dominate his undersized calves relative to them. Yates was a tad flat that year and when he was lighter his delts seemed to get smaller and less rounded

You'll be hard pressed to find a better more complete back double biceps shot than this

Dorian just looks like a blocky mess to me, his calves were impressive though.

[Royalty]

Not having water available when you have powerful pharmaceutical diuretics in your body = unsafe

[Royalty]

Remember this pic of Levrone? I'd say it's from 1993-1995 era

Delts & Arms popping out of his shirt