Author Topic: How was Shawn Ray never Mr. Olympia? (Read 36809 times)

old-school-lifter · « **Reply #150 on:** March 15, 2015, 08:41:06 PM »

Quote from: njflex on March 13, 2015, 07:30:51 PM

sick build,great muscle fullness,condition...yeah contest wins were never in the mix,,but he only competed once a yr...if he did grand prixes he would have racked up many ...one pic here 2nd one he's under 20...

disagree here
shawn could not hold his conditioning for more than 1 show
that's why he never did the post O grand prix tour
he could only peak once a year

hardgainerj · « **Reply #151 on:** March 15, 2015, 08:51:19 PM »

was it levrone that had a stripper gf that off'd herself?

240 is Back · « **Reply #152 on:** March 15, 2015, 09:13:08 PM »

Quote from: Hulkster on March 14, 2015, 12:44:50 PM

Pretty fcked up to photochop Lee Haney's arms to appear so small. not cool. $:-\$

Royalty · « **Reply #153 on:** March 16, 2015, 04:45:45 AM »

Quote from: hardgainerj on March 15, 2015, 08:51:19 PM

was it levrone that had a stripper gf that off'd herself?

that was Dillett

Royalty · « **Reply #154 on:** March 16, 2015, 04:47:35 AM »

Side-by-Side comparisons of Levrone & Ray @ 1994 Mr O

Royalty · « **Reply #155 on:** March 16, 2015, 04:55:25 AM »

Various 1994 back comparisons

Grape Ape · « **Reply #156 on:** March 16, 2015, 05:12:29 AM »

Future Mr. O RC mesmerized by the cock in this pic, Nasser contemplating quantum physics.....or wondering if he remembered to feed the cats...

Royalty · « **Reply #157 on:** March 16, 2015, 05:26:14 AM »

Quote from: Grape Ape on March 16, 2015, 05:12:29 AM

Future Mr. O RC mesmerized by the cock in this pic, Nasser contemplating quantum physics.....or wondering if he remembered to feed the cats...

HaHa!

Samir looks a schmoe pretending to be a competitor. A schmoe's goal: find a way onstage and stand amongst their prey.

njflex · « **Reply #158 on:** March 16, 2015, 05:31:58 AM »

Quote from: old-school-lifter on March 15, 2015, 08:41:06 PM

disagree here
shawn could not hold his conditioning for more than 1 show
that's why he never did the post O grand prix tour
he could only peak once a year

I don't know why he didn't do those shows,,most of those guys looked at the grand prix for the extra money and even going in to them 90pct of Olympia condition could be good enough...

Grape Ape · « **Reply #159 on:** March 16, 2015, 05:39:11 AM »

Quote from: njflex on March 16, 2015, 05:31:58 AM

I don't know why he didn't do those shows,,most of those guys looked at the grand prix for the extra money and even going in to them 90pct of Olympia condition could be good enough...

I think I remember reading those shows being somewhat of a grind - shitty travel conditions, shitty hotels, hard to procure food....etc.

njflex · « **Reply #160 on:** March 16, 2015, 05:51:13 AM »

Quote from: Grape Ape on March 16, 2015, 05:39:11 AM

I think I remember reading those shows being somewhat of a grind - shitty travel conditions, shitty hotels, hard to procure food....etc.

def a pain i'm sure,,air travel destroys condition,retain water from it..

Royalty · « **Reply #161 on:** March 16, 2015, 06:26:11 PM »

Quote from: Grape Ape on March 16, 2015, 05:39:11 AM

I think I remember reading those shows being somewhat of a grind - shitty travel conditions, shitty hotels, hard to procure food....etc.

Shawn had a Weider contract (when that was a big deal)

And he had other sponsors.

Plus, he was a major steroid dealer on the west coast. So he was set for money; he did need to do the European tour

Parker · « **Reply #162 on:** March 16, 2015, 06:31:33 PM »

Quote from: Grape Ape on March 16, 2015, 05:12:29 AM

Future Mr. O RC mesmerized by the cock in this pic, Nasser contemplating quantum physics.....or wondering if he remembered to feed the cats...

Andreas Munzer, thinking he's being ripped off. John Sherman wondering if his tank is half empty or half full.

Earl1972 · « **Reply #163 on:** March 16, 2015, 09:32:37 PM »

Quote from: Royalty on March 16, 2015, 04:47:35 AM

Side-by-Side comparisons of Levrone & Ray @ 1994 Mr O

shawn got LevrOWNED but the idiot judges didn't see it that way

E

knny187 · « **Reply #164 on:** March 16, 2015, 09:43:34 PM »

SR had quality over the rest. Most consistent in condition and placement at every show. His mouth and opinions held him from winning. E.O.S.

FireBlade · « **Reply #165 on:** March 16, 2015, 10:54:49 PM »

Would Shawn have killed it 212 Olympia?
Was he better then Flex?

bern · « **Reply #166 on:** March 16, 2015, 11:02:05 PM »

my gosh he looks GREAT in that first pic

njflex · « **Reply #167 on:** March 17, 2015, 05:28:50 AM »

Quote from: FireBlade on March 16, 2015, 10:54:49 PM

Would Shawn have killed it 212 Olympia?
Was he better then Flex?

I THINK he would have either won a lot or top 3 every show,,,he's on par with david henry with better chest/legs..

Bevo · « **Reply #168 on:** March 17, 2015, 06:38:20 AM »

Quote from: njflex on March 17, 2015, 05:28:50 AM

I THINK he would have either won a lot or top 3 every show,,,he's on par with david henry with better chest/legs..

U kidding? Dave henry? Haha shawn is light years better. Also biceps. Henry has the worse no "biceps peak" ever. U see it when he's doing a front double or rear double bi

njflex · « **Reply #169 on:** March 17, 2015, 06:51:33 AM »

Quote from: Bevo on March 17, 2015, 06:38:20 AM

U kidding? Dave henry? Haha shawn is light years better. Also biceps. Henry has the worse no "biceps peak" ever. U see it when he's doing a front double or rear double bi

david henry gets in great shape,has an amazing back/good arms maybe not a great fdb pose like shawn,i'm saing if the two of them were prime I could see them going 1 or 2 ..I see your point shawn was a full like heavy turning pro ,henry a smallish middle who blew up as a pro...

oldtimer1 · « **Reply #170 on:** March 17, 2015, 07:26:18 AM »

Ray was one of the best of all time. He was the first that I know of to do an actual training tape that actually filmed him training. Prior to that they were all demonstrating exercises. His training tape, "To The Extreme" is still one of my favorite tapes. Like Dorian Yates tapes it footage of him doing real live training.

njflex · « **Reply #171 on:** March 17, 2015, 08:07:12 AM »

Quote from: oldtimer1 on March 17, 2015, 07:26:18 AM

Ray was one of the best of all time. He was the first that I know of to do an actual training tape that actually filmed him training. Prior to that they were all demonstrating exercises. His training tape, "To The Extreme" is still one of my favorite tapes. Like Dorian Yates tapes it footage of him doing real live training.

the guy knew how to market himself ...

Royalty · « **Reply #172 on:** March 17, 2015, 08:10:19 AM »

Quote from: oldtimer1 on March 17, 2015, 07:26:18 AM

Ray was one of the best of all time. He was the first that I know of to do an actual training tape that actually filmed him training. Prior to that they were all demonstrating exercises. His training tape, "To The Extreme" is still one of my favorite tapes. Like Dorian Yates tapes it footage of him doing real live training.

Lee Haney definitely had a training video that was made in the 88'-89'

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #173 on:** March 17, 2015, 08:13:05 AM »

Quote from: Royalty on March 17, 2015, 08:10:19 AM

Lee Haney definitely had a training video that was made in the 88'-89'

oldtimer1 · « **Reply #174 on:** March 17, 2015, 08:27:24 AM »

Quote from: Royalty on March 17, 2015, 08:10:19 AM

Lee Haney definitely had a training video that was made in the 88'-89'

I'm talking of actual footage for the whole thing. I never saw Lee Haney's "real" training tape. I have see footage of him surrounded by guys doing a couple of sets and the tape is all chopped up. The Ray tape shows every body part and every exercise in actual training.