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Re: Hilary 2016
« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2015, 05:50:34 PM »
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Re: Hilary 2016
« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2015, 05:52:55 PM »
she'll win bc she focuses on gender inequality which is the hot topic thanks to the media and gobbled up by the "victimized" morons

It's fabulously stupid if it's really used as one of main ideas for the election campaign, because gender inequality is the medical fact. Research on the brain are clear that on the average (again, on the average) a female brain is smaller, lighter and the frontal lobe of the brain (crucial for creation) is used mainly for nurturing purposes. So yes, men and women are unequal (read as different), and it's biological fact, not some sociological speculation.
Using feminist arguments is like ignoring a century of research.

Well, it must be a perfect fit for a country of mentally challenged. First a negroe, now a woman, next you'll vote for transgender reptilian from Alpha Centauri, because it's cool.

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Re: Hilary 2016
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Re: Hilary 2016
« Reply #28 on: April 12, 2015, 06:32:44 PM »
Only one reason is needed to vote for the Democratic nominee, who ever it may be, (my choice would be Warren, or Castro (Julian or Juaquin), or even Jerry Brown, but I'll settle for Hilary):

The next president will likely get to select four Supreme Court justices.  Citizens United?  Roe v Wade? Libertarians should be very afraid of the far right and the demands they'll make on a Republican president.

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Re: Hilary 2016
« Reply #29 on: April 12, 2015, 06:39:55 PM »
About what? That she was in a position that nothing was accomplished? You didn't answer my question. What are her accomplishments? Like Obama, what qualifies her to be president?

I didn't say she had accomplishments.  I said she had experience.  Two very different things.  

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Re: Hilary 2016
« Reply #30 on: April 12, 2015, 06:43:21 PM »
are you saying her resume is weak?  Does she lack experience?

Yes.

I mentioned it in another thread but she was totally unqualified for all of her previous positions. Not a good politician and doesn't seem over bright.

What has she done exactly that would lead you to believe that she has a strong resume and is full of experience?

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Re: Hilary 2016
« Reply #31 on: April 12, 2015, 06:50:52 PM »
This is what happens when you mess with the Clinton's!!
And in case you have forgotten all the other bodies this witch has left in her wake......Just a quick refresher course ‘lest we forget’ what has happened to many “friends” of the Clintons.
1- James McDougal – Clintons convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr’s investigation.
2 – Mary Mahoney – A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown .. The murder happened just after she was togo public w:th her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
3 – Vince Foster – Former White House councilor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruleda suicide.
4 – Ron Brown – Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the air Traffic controller commited suicide.
5 – C. Victor Raiser, II – Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.
6 – Paul Tulley – Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotelroom in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as a “dear friend and trusted advisor”.
7 – Ed Willey – Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.
8 – Jerry Parks – Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock .. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.
9 – James Bunch – Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a “Black Book” of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas
10 – James Wilson – Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater..
11 – Kathy Ferguson – Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.
12 – Bill Shelton – Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.
13 – Gandy Baugh – Attorney for Clinton’s friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.
14 – Florence Martin – Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal, Mena, Arkansas, airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.
15 – Suzanne Coleman – Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.
16 – Paula Grober – Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.
17 – Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating MenaAirport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.
18 – Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at MenaAirport with Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993, in his WashingtonDC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.
19 – Jon Parnell Walker – Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington , Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.
20 – Barbara Wise – Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.
21 – Charles Meissner – Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.
22 – Dr. Stanley Heard – Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton ‘s advisory council personally treated Clinton’s mother, stepfather and brother.
23 – Barry Seal – Drug running TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no accident.
24 – Johnny Lawhorn, Jr. – Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.
25 – Stanley Huggins – Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.
26 – Hershell Friday – Attorney and Clinton fundraiser died March 1, 1994, when his plane exploded.
27 – Kevin Ives & Don Henry – Known as “The boys on the track” case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.
THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:
28 – Keith Coney – Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.
29 – Keith McMaskle – Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988
30 – Gregory Collins – Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.
31 – Jeff Rhodes – He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.
32 – James Milan – Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to natural causes”.
33 – Jordan Kettleson – Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.
34 – Richard Winters – A suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.
THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD
35 – Major William S. Barkley, Jr.
36 – Captain Scott J . Reynolds
37 – Sgt. Brian Hanley
38 – Sgt. Tim Sabel
39 – Major General William Robertson
40 – Col. William Densberger
41 – Col. Robert Kelly
42 – Spec. Gary Rhodes
43 – Steve Willis
44 – Robert Williams
45 – Conway LeBleu
46 – Todd McKeehan

Quite an impressive list!

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Re: Hilary 2016
« Reply #32 on: April 12, 2015, 06:53:08 PM »


What a Zelig she is.  And even with the faux Southern drawl she's a shrill thing.

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Re: Hilary 2016
« Reply #33 on: April 12, 2015, 06:55:27 PM »
I didn't say she had accomplishments.  I said she had experience.  Two very different things.  

Then what's her experience? Bills wife? A murderer? Help me out.

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Re: Hilary 2016
« Reply #34 on: April 12, 2015, 06:58:10 PM »
This is what happens when you mess with the Clinton's!!
And in case you have forgotten all the other bodies this witch has left in her wake......Just a quick refresher course ‘lest we forget’ what has happened to many “friends” of the Clintons.
1- James McDougal – Clintons convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr’s investigation.
2 – Mary Mahoney – A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown .. The murder happened just after she was togo public w:th her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
3 – Vince Foster – Former White House councilor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruleda suicide.
4 – Ron Brown – Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the air Traffic controller commited suicide.
5 – C. Victor Raiser, II – Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.
6 – Paul Tulley – Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotelroom in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as a “dear friend and trusted advisor”.
7 – Ed Willey – Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.
8 – Jerry Parks – Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock .. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.
9 – James Bunch – Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a “Black Book” of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas
10 – James Wilson – Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater..
11 – Kathy Ferguson – Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.
12 – Bill Shelton – Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.
13 – Gandy Baugh – Attorney for Clinton’s friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.
14 – Florence Martin – Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal, Mena, Arkansas, airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.
15 – Suzanne Coleman – Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.
16 – Paula Grober – Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.
17 – Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating MenaAirport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.
18 – Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at MenaAirport with Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993, in his WashingtonDC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.
19 – Jon Parnell Walker – Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington , Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.
20 – Barbara Wise – Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.
21 – Charles Meissner – Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.
22 – Dr. Stanley Heard – Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton ‘s advisory council personally treated Clinton’s mother, stepfather and brother.
23 – Barry Seal – Drug running TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no accident.
24 – Johnny Lawhorn, Jr. – Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.
25 – Stanley Huggins – Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.
26 – Hershell Friday – Attorney and Clinton fundraiser died March 1, 1994, when his plane exploded.
27 – Kevin Ives & Don Henry – Known as “The boys on the track” case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.
THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:
28 – Keith Coney – Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.
29 – Keith McMaskle – Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988
30 – Gregory Collins – Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.
31 – Jeff Rhodes – He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.
32 – James Milan – Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to natural causes”.
33 – Jordan Kettleson – Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.
34 – Richard Winters – A suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.
THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD
35 – Major William S. Barkley, Jr.
36 – Captain Scott J . Reynolds
37 – Sgt. Brian Hanley
38 – Sgt. Tim Sabel
39 – Major General William Robertson
40 – Col. William Densberger
41 – Col. Robert Kelly
42 – Spec. Gary Rhodes
43 – Steve Willis
44 – Robert Williams
45 – Conway LeBleu
46 – Todd McKeehan

Quite an impressive list!


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Re: Hilary 2016
« Reply #35 on: April 12, 2015, 07:31:07 PM »
Then what's her experience? Bills wife? A murderer? Help me out.

This is the part where your emotion blinds facts.

She did a ton for domestic causes for 8 years as first lady.

She was elected twice to US Senate, served over 8 years, then left 2nd term to knock out 4 years sec of state. 

Compare that to Rand, Rubio and Cruz - they've been in senate since - hold on - 2011 for Rand and Rubio, and 2013 for Cruz?   And they haven't accomplished all that much, have they?  I agree with their ideology, but really, they haven't led major legislation, they have led major committees, they haven't DEALT with world leaders, have they? 

Here's the bottom line - we agree with their political ideologies and hate that of hilary, but we cannot deny her experience completely destroys theirs.  She's been meeting global leaders for 25 years.  Cruz (who I support #1 in 2016) has been in office for 2 years, and has been running for office half of that time!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Hilary 2016
« Reply #36 on: April 12, 2015, 07:34:21 PM »
Coach, years ago, I was anti-clinton back in the Brady bill days, 93 and 94... I am disgusted by the clintons and the way you feel about libs today - THAT is how I felt about people that voted Clinton in 92.  Still, it's their choice, they had their reasons.

I really hope she doesn't get the nomination.  BUT while we debate, I won't say things like "Hilary has never met world leaders" or "Hilary has never overseen overthrows" or "Rubio has way more experience in the war room than Hilary" because that will make me look like I'm totally full of shit.  

I dislike Hilary's political agenda greatly, but I can admit 2 terms as senator, 2 terms first lady, and 1 term as sec of state is probably going to be the strongest experience in this race, even stronger than Jeb.   She will never get my vote, but I will be honest about her experience.

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Re: Hilary 2016
« Reply #37 on: April 12, 2015, 07:38:08 PM »
Coach, years ago, I was anti-clinton back in the Brady bill days, 93 and 94... I am disgusted by the clintons and the way you feel about libs today - THAT is how I felt about people that voted Clinton in 92.  Still, it's their choice, they had their reasons.

I really hope she doesn't get the nomination.  BUT while we debate, I won't say things like "Hilary has never met world leaders" or "Hilary has never overseen overthrows" or "Rubio has way more experience in the war room than Hilary" because that will make me look like I'm totally full of shit.  

I dislike Hilary's political agenda greatly, but I can admit 2 terms as senator, 2 terms first lady, and 1 term as sec of state is probably going to be the strongest experience in this race, even stronger than Jeb.   She will never get my vote, but I will be honest about her experience.

What you just summarized is why she would have been worlds better than Obama.  That said she won't get my vote either.

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Re: Hilary 2016
« Reply #38 on: April 12, 2015, 07:45:17 PM »
What you just summarized is why she would have been worlds better than Obama.  That said she won't get my vote either.

oh yeah, she would have done a better job.  He was learning on the job. 

I have never liked lots of things, But I admit their experience.  I dont like Cheney, but looking at his resume over 40 years, it's hard to top that.  Biden has one of the greatest lists of experience in DC.  I would never vote either for prez, but I admit they know how DC works and have been working their tails off for decades.  Same with Hilary.

on the other hand - the Palins of the world, the Rubios... they go from mayor to 18 months in senate, and they're running for prez the whole time.  I dislike when people scream about experience and won't be honest.  It's okay to say "So-and-so is morally corrupted and has a shitty political ideology, but they have been negotiating with world leaders for 20 or 30 years.

Rubio and Rand will need those training wheels too.  We have to say "I'm okay with them botching a few things due to lack of experience, because I love their political beliefs".

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Re: Hilary 2016
« Reply #39 on: April 12, 2015, 07:48:45 PM »
This is the part where your emotion blinds facts.

She did a ton for domestic causes for 8 years as first lady.

She was elected twice to US Senate, served over 8 years, then left 2nd term to knock out 4 years sec of state. 

Compare that to Rand, Rubio and Cruz - they've been in senate since - hold on - 2011 for Rand and Rubio, and 2013 for Cruz?   And they haven't accomplished all that much, have they?  I agree with their ideology, but really, they haven't led major legislation, they have led major committees, they haven't DEALT with world leaders, have they? 

Here's the bottom line - we agree with their political ideologies and hate that of hilary, but we cannot deny her experience completely destroys theirs.  She's been meeting global leaders for 25 years.  Cruz (who I support #1 in 2016) has been in office for 2 years, and has been running for office half of that time!!!!!!!!!!


Goddammit Rob, I don't care if she's been elected 50 times. That's not an accomplishment in her job. You make the same reference with Obama. Again, I don't care how many times he's been elected. He still can't do the job the American people expect. Do you see the difference at all?????

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Re: Hilary 2016
« Reply #40 on: April 12, 2015, 07:57:37 PM »
Goddammit Rob, I don't care if she's been elected 50 times. That's not an accomplishment in her job. You make the same reference with Obama. Again, I don't care how many times he's been elected. He still can't do the job the American people expect. Do you see the difference at all?????

If you were a liberal, you'd look at Hilary's list of accomplishments and say wow... she wrote an early version of obamacare, she wrote a bunch of family/womens protection bills, she made the 911 WTC rebuild happen, she's visited soldiers over and over... she's been to 112 countries as Sec of state, met countless leaders, she gave repubs the mid-east surge they demanded, she saved the turkey/armenian thing, and don't forget about the Global Hunger and Food Security program.

I dislike her, but I can't look at that list and call her clueless or inexperienced.   I call her a liberal and say I disagree with her politics and policies.  But when you say she hasn't accomplished anything - what you really mean is that she hasn't accomplished anything that YOU wanted.  For Beaten wives, 911 survivors, hungry people worldwide, warmongers, etc - she's done a lot. 

It is like all things politics.  if youre a liberal, obama accomplished a shitload.  If you're a conservative, obama didn't accomplish shit.

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Re: Hilary 2016
« Reply #41 on: April 12, 2015, 08:04:00 PM »
If you were a liberal, you'd look at Hilary's list of accomplishments and say wow... she wrote an early version of obamacare, she wrote a bunch of family/womens protection bills, she made the 911 WTC rebuild happen, she's visited soldiers over and over... she's been to 112 countries as Sec of state, met countless leaders, she gave repubs the mid-east surge they demanded, she saved the turkey/armenian thing, and don't forget about the Global Hunger and Food Security program.

I dislike her, but I can't look at that list and call her clueless or inexperienced.   I call her a liberal and say I disagree with her politics and policies.  But when you say she hasn't accomplished anything - what you really mean is that she hasn't accomplished anything that YOU wanted.  For Beaten wives, 911 survivors, hungry people worldwide, warmongers, etc - she's done a lot. 

It is like all things politics.  if youre a liberal, obama accomplished a shitload.  If you're a conservative, obama didn't accomplish shit.

The question has been asked to liberals. They can't answer either.

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Re: Hilary 2016
« Reply #42 on: April 12, 2015, 08:06:48 PM »
The question has been asked to liberals. They can't answer either.

I just answered it.  lol.   

For Beaten wives, 911 survivors, hungry people worldwide, warmongers, etc - she's done a lot.   And I just showed which actions and legislation did exactly that.

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Re: Hilary 2016
« Reply #43 on: April 12, 2015, 08:11:49 PM »
I wanna see Cruz vs. Warren in the general election.

Branch still has a few good years left on his bb career but maybe in 2020.

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Re: Hilary 2016
« Reply #44 on: April 12, 2015, 08:14:29 PM »
I wanna see Cruz vs. Warren in the general election.
why?

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Re: Hilary 2016
« Reply #45 on: April 12, 2015, 08:24:10 PM »
She gets my vote, and my money.


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Re: Hilary 2016
« Reply #46 on: April 12, 2015, 08:25:17 PM »
why?

I want america to choose actual change.

Maybe we are a liberal nation that wants to do the warren thing.
Maybe we are a conservative nation that wants to do the cruz thing.

Either way, we aren't a RINO nation and this current thing, Bush = obama = mccain = jeb = Hilary.

I'd like to see someone really shift things, and I'd like Americans to have such a contrast from which to choose.  I'd take Cruz, of course.

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Re: Hilary 2016
« Reply #47 on: April 12, 2015, 08:40:09 PM »
I want america to choose actual change.

Maybe we are a liberal nation that wants to do the warren thing.
Maybe we are a conservative nation that wants to do the cruz thing.

Either way, we aren't a RINO nation and this current thing, Bush = obama = mccain = jeb = Hilary.

I'd like to see someone really shift things, and I'd like Americans to have such a contrast from which to choose.  I'd take Cruz, of course.

I think most all Americans feel this way.  Remember, Obama was supposed to be that person, a transformative figure.  I knew that was BS.

What most Americans don't know (and I do, because I'm involved in it) is that most all of our federal government is not run by the elected officials.  It is really run by the lobbyists.  And neither party, or a President, is going to take them on.  There is way too much money at stake. Sorry, Cruz is not your guy to do that.  His wife worked at Goldman Sachs.

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Re: Hilary 2016
« Reply #48 on: April 12, 2015, 08:49:29 PM »
Sorry, Cruz is not your guy to do that.  His wife worked at Goldman Sachs.

maybe, but you never know.  If HE worked there, I'd agreee.   but wifey?   Spouses can be very different.

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Re: Hilary 2016
« Reply #49 on: April 12, 2015, 08:56:38 PM »
maybe, but you never know.  If HE worked there, I'd agreee.   but wifey?   Spouses can be very different.

Cruz has to get past Jeb first.  Jeb's the guy the money Republicans want, just as Romney was the guy they wanted.   It's going to be an interesting primary.  The money Republicans are a mighty powerful force.  I can't see anybody but Jeb ending up with the nomination, unless it's Walker as a compromise.