Exactly how good can you look on testosterone only

[pestosterone]

The drugs back then had to b way stronger and behave differently from the way everybody talks.

[pkaz]

Yes pestosterone they did. Because they were real pharmaceutical grade products.


 

[ritch]

If you start from 6%, you will look very good.

If you start from 12%, you will look like shit.

Period.

Pfff, not true at all.

[nattybay]

Pfff, not true at all.

Well that really depends on what someone's definition of looking good is.

[local hero]

Re- young bodybuilders.... I think too many now are too concerned with looking good all the time to make big advances

Your not going to make large bodyweight increases staying ripped all year unless you can afford to take boatloads of drugs, I'm not saying get realy fat, but have a longterm goal in mind, forgett about being vascular, don't whinge about being bloated etc etc

You can make huge leaps in late teens and early 20's, I took my stage weight from 14.st to 16.7 in 2 yrs

[Damios]

Your not going to make large bodyweight increases staying ripped all year unless you can afford to take boatloads of drugs

What is in Your opinion "boatloads of drugs" You know... it can be relative concept   Blasting Tren year round for example?

[local hero]

Growing lean, making those kind of jumps would need gh and grams of gear etc etc.... Where it could be done with food and much less goodies...

Put it this way, if you cant get an advanced bodyweight this way this sport isn't for you, you might as well go back to being lean and looking the same yr round

[Thong Maniac]

This is a great post.

I am in my early 30s, been on test for TRT since 26-27. Blasted 600mg the highest.

Never achieved a look i wanted on just test. The ONLY time i looked how i wanted on test, was around 8-10 percent bf. I agree that test is not giving the look most guys want. And for health reasons i will likely never touch tren or deca or many orals.

What i have learned so far is that cutting with high test is a waste. I always end near the same weight whether i use 200 or 600mg test. My plan now is to cut with low test TRt levels and thne when i get low enough, i will use more test and try to stay lean. Ive never "bulked" with AAS, only TRt.

[Jizmo]

This is a great post.

I am in my early 30s, been on test for TRT since 26-27. Blasted 600mg the highest.

Never achieved a look i wanted on just test. The ONLY time i looked how i wanted on test, was around 8-10 percent bf. I agree that test is not giving the look most guys want. And for health reasons i will likely never touch tren or deca or many orals.

What i have learned so far is that cutting with high test is a waste. I always end near the same weight whether i use 200 or 600mg test. My plan now is to cut with low test TRt levels and thne when i get low enough, i will use more test and try to stay lean. Ive never "bulked" with AAS, only TRt.

i agree on that fact that you have to be low bodyfat to look good on loads of test... however you can look fucking insane on a gram of test when youre 7-8% bodyfat. you just gotta have the mass (which is easier acquired with stacks of course).

however i DO NOT agree on the high test on a cut is a waste thing...
the more test you use during cuts the faster you lose fat. and this is REALLY noticable...
maybe you dont notice that since you use lower dosages...

500mg test do not give a significant fat burning advantage for me, but doses upwards of 1g DO.
its REALLY noticable... you lose weight (yes, weight. use an AI of course) and fat much faster on 1.5g test or so compared to lower dosages...
talking about test only here, not stacked.

for me test is also the best AAS to cut...
ill probably only run test only cuts from now on (maybe throw in some dht derivative here and there)...
tren makes me so hungry that cutting essentially takes just as long or even longer when i blast high tren, because ill just pig out regularly and theres no way around it, while on high test i can just starve myself (with appetite suppressants and fat burners) and cut up quickly...
but high test is a great bang for the buck... masteron is too expensive for the small boost it gives.
NPP might be an option, but only really gives more muscle retention and no fat burning advantage because of lacking androgenic activity..

[equipoise]

i agree on that fact that you have to be low bodyfat to look good on loads of test... however you can look fucking insane on a gram of test when youre 7-8% bodyfat. you just gotta have the mass (which is easier acquired with stacks of course).

however i DO NOT agree on the high test on a cut is a waste thing...
the more test you use during cuts the faster you lose fat. and this is REALLY noticable...
maybe you dont notice that since you use lower dosages...

500mg test do not give a significant fat burning advantage for me, but doses upwards of 1g DO.
its REALLY noticable... you lose weight (yes, weight. use an AI of course) and fat much faster on 1.5g test or so compared to lower dosages...
talking about test only here, not stacked.

for me test is also the best AAS to cut...
ill probably only run test only cuts from now on (maybe throw in some dht derivative here and there)...
tren makes me so hungry that cutting essentially takes just as long or even longer when i blast high tren, because ill just pig out regularly and theres no way around it, while on high test i can just starve myself (with appetite suppressants and fat burners) and cut up quickly...
but high test is a great bang for the buck... masteron is too expensive for the small boost it gives.
NPP might be an option, but only really gives more muscle retention and no fat burning advantage because of lacking androgenic activity..

How is your hair on 1g+ of test? Test gives me a lot of strength and size very fast, but I am afraid of having premature balding because of it. Last test blast I didn't lost any hair, but I am still scared of it slowly shedding more than it naturally would. Which is why I am using npp now in the interests of being hair safe

[Jizmo]

How is your hair on 1g+ of test? Test gives me a lot of strength and size very fast, but I am afraid of having premature balding because of it. Last test blast I didn't lost any hair, but I am still scared of it slowly shedding more than it naturally would. Which is why I am using npp now in the interests of being hair safe

no hair loss to note here ever honestly...
ive ran test, tren, mast, anadrol, methyltren, pure DHT, etc etc, pretty much the most androgenic shit you could imagine and never noticed hair loss... and thats in the multiple gram range... no recerding hair line, never noticed hair falling out faster than normal...

BUT i guess im pretty much immune to DHT sides in general, because i neither get acne (only a few zits from high estrogen), nor hair loss BUT
also no insane libido or mad back/beard hair growth. of course beard, chest and back hair grow much faster, especially when im on tren. but nothing crazy...
i only started growing a full beard and signficant chest/back hair when i first touched AAS too. i guess i dont have many DHT receptors and DHT conversion in general.

on the other hand my buddy broke out like crazy when he first touched test, now when hes blasting he has to shave twice daily, his whole body is completely covered in hair and he looks like a bear.

BUT he also does NOT lose his head hair.
i guess even if youre prone to DHT then hair loss does not always occur. probably really depends on LOCAL reductase acvtivity / receptors etc.

[pestosterone]

Tren and mast thinned my hair but I'm destined ide say I got till im 40 till my hair looks stupid then I'll just shave it fuck it I'll b old and scary then anyway

[equipoise]

no hair loss to note here ever honestly...
ive ran test, tren, mast, anadrol, methyltren, pure DHT, etc etc, pretty much the most androgenic shit you could imagine and never noticed hair loss... and thats in the multiple gram range... no recerding hair line, never noticed hair falling out faster than normal...

BUT i guess im pretty much immune to DHT sides in general, because i neither get acne (only a few zits from high estrogen), nor hair loss BUT
also no insane libido or mad back/beard hair growth. of course beard, chest and back hair grow much faster, especially when im on tren. but nothing crazy...
i only started growing a full beard and signficant chest/back hair when i first touched AAS too. i guess i dont have many DHT receptors and DHT conversion in general.

on the other hand my buddy broke out like crazy when he first touched test, now when hes blasting he has to shave twice daily, his whole body is completely covered in hair and he looks like a bear.

BUT he also does NOT lose his head hair.
i guess even if youre prone to DHT then hair loss does not always occur. probably really depends on LOCAL reductase acvtivity / receptors etc.

Do you think it's age related? There are a lot of bodybuilders who run shit loads of stuff and have great hair in their 20s, and when they get older it seems to slowly catch up to them. Kind of like how arnold kept his hair for ages, and now in his 60s has a  receded hairline

[Damios]

I think the most important thing about hair is GENETICS. You can start balding in Your 20's without use any AAS and You can have afro while abusing grams of AAS in Your 40's, 50's.

[ritch]

Well that really depends on what someone's definition of looking good is.

my pics are on the site here, test only. Tell me what you think.

[equipoise]

my pics are on the site here, test only. Tell me what you think.

Did you build your physique with test only? Or did you throw in a lot of other goodies along the way? I know a lot of guys who say that they're currently on x mg of test a week, but when you ask them, they used all sorts of other stuff like dbol, drol, tren, deca etc. to build mass. So it's not really accurate to say that their physique is due to test, it's more that they built their physique with test + other compounds and then are now just maintaining with test

[kevthekid]

I think you can look decent or pretty good on just testosterone alone based on 2 factors. Diet and genetics. That's it, if your diet is shit or you have shit genetics you will need More than just testosterone to look as good as someone on test only who's diet and genetics are good. I think I respond pretty well to gear other than getting some back acne but my diet isn't on point and I just hired a contest prep coach to get me down to 7-8% within the next 6-8 weeks. I always look nice and thick now on Testosterone or Sustanon alone, and about 2 weeks ago added Tren and loving it.

[Jizmo]

Do you think it's age related? There are a lot of bodybuilders who run shit loads of stuff and have great hair in their 20s, and when they get older it seems to slowly catch up to them. Kind of like how arnold kept his hair for ages, and now in his 60s has a  receded hairline

well, its all genetic. if youre NATURAL then yeah age plays a strong role...
but with age conversion to DHT in general DEcreases and conversion to estrogen INcreases. thats a fact. but estrogen also plays a role in hair loss.

its all genetic, i dont know. if youre prone youll get it - early.
if youre not prone you wont get it any earlier from roiding your ass off.
with age most bald to a certain degree anyway. but that is probably related to other hormones than steroids. maybe less GH and the likes, idk.

Did you build your physique with test only? Or did you throw in a lot of other goodies along the way? I know a lot of guys who say that they're currently on x mg of test a week, but when you ask them, they used all sorts of other stuff like dbol, drol, tren, deca etc. to build mass. So it's not really accurate to say that their physique is due to test, it's more that they built their physique with test + other compounds and then are now just maintaining with test

you can certainly build a high caliber physique with (grams of) test only. with GH and slin at least.
to get competition level conditioning youll need different stuff.
to just be extremely big / ripped test+gh(+slin) is enough

without GH and slin? nah, not so much. with good genetics you can look awe inspiring, but not insane.

[ritch]

Did you build your physique with test only? Or did you throw in a lot of other goodies along the way? I know a lot of guys who say that they're currently on x mg of test a week, but when you ask them, they used all sorts of other stuff like dbol, drol, tren, deca etc. to build mass. So it's not really accurate to say that their physique is due to test, it's more that they built their physique with test + other compounds and then are now just maintaining with test

TEst only bro. Used 12 weeks of dbal when I was 23 (15 years ago) and that muscle was lost after all the dumb shit I did. The other time I added an inject for a complete cycle was the following cycle, which I had real upjohn winject ($400 the bottle..)

That was a hell of a long time ago, gave me a temporary look when you think of it. I used 100mg eod winject. 600mg prop/week.

Everything below was tried after the pics....

Tried deca, bofff, for a few extra lbs, was not worth using, tried it, will not use again, nothing was gained.

Never used tren, ever.

I have used say some dbal for like 3ish weeks off and on though to gain back lost size but never over 40mg.

25mg of anadrol for like 10 days would be "use" for me. was too chicken to go to 50mg, lol...

Will say this again, my natural base was damn good, better than most on gear and is why I am hard on pics as I don't see much merit for guys using so much shit and looking so average.

[Thong Maniac]

TEst only bro. Used 12 weeks of dbal when I was 23 (15 years ago) and that muscle was lost after all the dumb shit I did. The other time I added an inject for a complete cycle was the following cycle, which I had real upjohn winject ($400 the bottle..)

That was a hell of a long time ago, gave me a temporary look when you think of it. I used 100mg eod winject. 600mg prop/week.

Everything below was tried after the pics....

Tried deca, bofff, for a few extra lbs, was not worth using, tried it, will not use again, nothing was gained.

Never used tren, ever.

I have used say some dbal for like 3ish weeks off and on though to gain back lost size but never over 40mg.

25mg of anadrol for like 10 days would be "use" for me. was too chicken to go to 50mg, lol...

Will say this again, my natural base was damn good, better than most on gear and is why I am hard on pics as I don't see much merit for guys using so much shit and looking so average.

Lol id hate for u to see what i look like then. I use low doses though, hell even my wife is like "why use if your just gonna be a pussy about it, go big or dont go at all" haha

[ritch]

Lol id hate for u to see what i look like then. I use low doses though, hell even my wife is like "why use if your just gonna be a pussy about it, go big or dont go at all" haha

half of getbig got hard thinking of having a woman that cool!

[pestosterone]

Lolol

[equipoise]

Lol id hate for u to see what i look like then. I use low doses though, hell even my wife is like "why use if your just gonna be a pussy about it, go big or dont go at all" haha

You tell your wife you use? What if you divorce and she uses it as ammunition against you? "my husband is violent, he uses steroids and has roid rage"

[pestosterone]

U can not b married and her not know u use aas, that would b a giant pain in the ass to cover up never would work. Not for long

[Thong Maniac]

U can not b married and her not know u use aas, that would b a giant pain in the ass to cover up never would work. Not for long

This. I only mainly use medical perscribed meds so even if that WAS to happen, im covered legally. But i know my wife and she isnt the type to be irrational about. She has played arojnd with her fair share of goodies too