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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #9625 on: July 02, 2023, 07:42:05 AM »
My post did appear rude now I look at it. not supposed to be so my bad there.

I don’t trade because I’m no good at short term.

Shitposting is exactly that. I post total utter flippant vomit on here. Yes I bought alts at BTC 17.5k (posted it) and said it’ll go to 11k or even 6k. I am dumb. I then said BTC could go as high as 42k and I sold around 29k. Make of that what you will.

I would like layer 2 alts to nuke. Unfortunately that will take out ETH. The thing to ponder about ETHBTC at support is are we all cool with the floor price of a punk NFT being triple that of Bitcoin? are we ok the NFT rock done in MS Paint being worth 150k at the bottom? They will 10x from here if so.

The more ‘alive’ these total pieces of shit are, the less money there is to pull up Bitcoin.
The less Bitcoin can pump, the worse off we all are. The Degenerate stuff exists on the ETH network so all that money holding up jpegs also prevents money flowing into ETH.

We kind of need ETH to take one for the team here and be the sacrificial lamb to kill off the stupid stuff.

Tone is always lost so apologies for being too blunt.

No worries.

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« Reply #9627 on: July 02, 2023, 09:14:27 PM »


I used Binance and it’s full of phantom orders and fake volume. Been known for years.

I would place limit orders and price would move right past me without being filled.

Got to the stage where I only market buy/ market sell otherwise I couldn’t Get fillled or the order book would vanish.

Places who do that are also trading against you.

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« Reply #9628 on: July 02, 2023, 10:42:21 PM »

I used Binance and it’s full of phantom orders and fake volume. Been known for years.

I would place limit orders and price would move right past me without being filled.

Got to the stage where I only market buy/ market sell otherwise I couldn’t Get fillled or the order book would vanish.

Places who do that are also trading against you.

Fully agree. And yes they definitely were doing that. Very sneaky.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #9629 on: July 03, 2023, 07:17:30 AM »
Who knows. The Ethereum + Ethereum token market cap is approaching the market cap of Bitcoin.

BTC: 592 billion

ETH: 230.5 billion


Ethereun Tokens Market Cap: 240.64 billion

https://cryptoslate.com/blockchain/ethereum/

Some notable ETH tokens:

USDT: 83.5 billion
USDC: 27.95 billion
WBTC: 4.6 billion
DAI: 4.6 billion
MATIC: 6.14 billion
SHIB: 4.5 billion

ETH should really be trading at 1/6th the value of BTC because of the total supply. BTC @ $31K means ETH should be around $5k. Disregarding the other positive attributes such as lower current inflation and staking yields. It is currently underpriced relative to Bitcoin.

Michael Saylor reckons BTC dominance will go up to 80%. He lives in a fantasy and he is not looking too healthy lately in some of his interviews. He appears desperate and might be resorting to alcohol.

There are over 7 billion people on the planet. If the total ETH supply was distributed evenly to 1 billion people each person would only receive 0.122 ETH. Obviously, they would receive less BTC - around 0.02 BTC. But the point is even the Ethereum supply is small compared to the number of people on the planet. The world is big enough and there are enough use cases to justify numerous blockhains. Bitcoin is entirely unsuited to function as the one and only blockchain. It would completely choke and grind to a halt.

I also see a structural problem with the current Bitcoin model. As miner yields decrease the network will increasingly have to rely on fees to keep it secure. The fees would have to increase dramatically to keep "miners" incentivized. Therefore Bitcoin will become too expensive to transact with for most people. The lighting network has been touted as the solution. The only issue with that is it is centralized. You would not want to send a huge amount of BTC over the lighting network. And I have heard that it is clunky and overly-complex.

https://coingeek.com/btc-lightning-network-it-still-doesnt-work-but-does-anyone-notice/
https://unboundedcapital.com/blog/why-lightning-doesnt-work

Been awhile since I checked the market cap of BTC and ETH.

Didn't know the gap had closed so much!

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« Reply #9630 on: July 03, 2023, 11:21:35 PM »
I lost $25 speculating. I'm a little  hesitant to jump back in...

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« Reply #9631 on: July 04, 2023, 03:45:14 AM »
I lost $25 speculating. I'm a little  hesitant to jump back in...




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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #9632 on: July 04, 2023, 05:35:04 AM »
I lost $25 speculating. I'm a little  hesitant to jump back in...

Put your money in GBTC.

You'll thank me soon.

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« Reply #9633 on: July 09, 2023, 02:05:12 AM »
Binance was just a better managed version of FTX, but it's the same playbook. Don't forget CZ owned 20% of FTX and basically taught Sam how it was done. Same possibly with crypto.com

Binance might be more legit now, but it wasn't in the early days. There is still a mile long list of sketchy stuff that wouldn't pass in a regulated industry that happens over there.

The most recent is the stuff that's gone on with TrueUSD. The custodians of TrueUSD are bankrupt yet Binance continues to use it and now promotes it to their customers. Why? Because BUSD was banned and TrueUSD allows them to continue their "games". They don't seem to care that their customers are holding assets backed by nothing.
It's obvious to me Binance is being attacked by the globalists. There are rumors that the DNC / Democrats were laundering money through FTX. Hence why the SEC never investigated FTX / SBF. Then when FTX started to collapse SBF tried to get CZ to bail them out. He opted out and now they are going after him. Notice the news is all about how bad Binance is and not much about FTX. Before FTX collapsed there was not much FUD against Binance. The US allowed Binance to operate in the US via Binance.US. Based on this I transferred my holdings from Binance to Binance.US and incurred fees as a result.

Now the SEC has the nerve to request that Binance.US assets be frozen. What about my holdings on Binance.US which was acquired via mining and paid for with cash that I earned via working my ass off?! And the bastards want me to pay taxes on this while at the same time trying to ban it?!

As far as I am concerned the moment the US government was willing to accept tax payments for crypto was the moment they lost the right to ban it. It is time to ban bought and paid for politicians...

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« Reply #9634 on: July 09, 2023, 02:08:13 AM »
Put your money in GBTC.

You'll thank me soon.

To the moon!! HODL!! It's still early!! (after 13 years) :o :D :D

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« Reply #9635 on: July 09, 2023, 02:18:18 AM »
It's possible that SBF was air-dropped into the crypto sphere with the sole purpose to discredit and damage it. It could all be smoke and mirrors. He is taking the fall while it allows the US government to go after crypto.

The leftist media will of course claim these are all dumb conspiracy theories.

https://slate.com/technology/2022/12/sam-bankman-fried-arrested-ftx-sbf-department-of-justice-conspiracy-theory.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/06/15/us-withdraws-new-charges-in-sam-bankman-fried-case-punts-them-to-2024.html

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« Reply #9636 on: July 13, 2023, 02:06:31 PM »

Can you imagine if Ripple win though . It would be reverse uno for the SEC and the greatest psyop ever. Market confidence would be back in a huge way. Gotta be ready for that just in case.

They haven't won, but shitcoinary won today.


Come on Gib. You've been here longer than anyone. Shitcoins were far more dead in 2019 than they right now. They would need to drop maybe another 80% to reach 2019 "dead" levels".

That can happen if btc hits 40k plus and shitcoin prices dont move, but more likely 2 more Alt washouts/rug pulls are needed.

The SEC also needs to come out with another list of 50 to 100 coins they deem securities. Coinbase, Binance, Kraken and all the other exchanges need to delist them or the exchanges need to go extinct and then maybe shitcoinery stops.

Anything else is just wishful thinking.
Just like the wishful thinking that ETH would be deemed a security.

Gib, A Judge in Ripple v SEC just ruled that shitcoin trading on exchanges is NOT an investment contract, so not a security (direct selling is the issue) just like I told you was the case many times. XRP is getting listed on coinbase right now.

Of course without dodgy exchanges and bad actors wash trading and manipulating shitcoin prices there may well be no x100 coins in the future as there will be no real volume, but that is a battle  for another day. Today you were comprehensively WRONG.

And no *Theoak* the whole of the crypto space isn't captured by the government.

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« Reply #9637 on: July 13, 2023, 02:53:35 PM »
They haven't won, but shitcoinary won today.

Gib, A Judge in Ripple v SEC just ruled that shitcoin trading on exchanges is NOT an investment contract, so not a security (direct selling is the issue) just like I told you was the case many times. XRP is getting listed on coinbase right now.

Of course without dodgy exchanges and bad actors wash trading and manipulating shitcoin prices there may well be no x100 coins in the future as there will be no real volume, but that is a battle  for another day. Today you were comprehensively WRONG.

And no *Theoak* the whole of the crypto space isn't captured by the government.
 

I never said whole crypto space is captured by government. I said over  a long enough  time frame coins like Eth (pos) become more and more centralised and end up being captured as they resemble the existing fiat system. This will play out over decades, rest of shitn coin will follown their  true price discovery ,0.

As for shit  coins I stated  only 100M people today are in crypto out of 7billion +. So far more retards yet to come into the space to pump,dump and rug pull. 

In terms of Eth, I said it won't be classified as a security even though it should be.


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« Reply #9638 on: July 13, 2023, 03:04:53 PM »
 

I never said whole crypto space is captured by government. I said over  a long enough  time frame coins like Eth (pos) become more and more centralised and end up being captured as they resemble the existing fiat system. This will play out over decades, rest of shitn coin will follown their  true price discovery ,0.

As for shit  coins I stated  only 100M people today are in crypto out of 7billion +. So far more retards yet to come into the space to pump,dump and rug pull. 

In terms of Eth, I said it won't be classified as a security even though it should be.

I was preemptively trolling your earlier captured Eth post

 
In terms of Eth, I said it won't be classified as a security even though it should be.

Or maybe, just maybe yours and Gibs take on the subject was just wrong.

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« Reply #9639 on: July 13, 2023, 03:32:58 PM »
Shorts got spanked on Coin:


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« Reply #9640 on: July 13, 2023, 07:00:38 PM »
They haven't won, but shitcoinary won today.

Gib, A Judge in Ripple v SEC just ruled that shitcoin trading on exchanges is NOT an investment contract, so not a security (direct selling is the issue) just like I told you was the case many times. XRP is getting listed on coinbase right now.

Of course without dodgy exchanges and bad actors wash trading and manipulating shitcoin prices there may well be no x100 coins in the future as there will be no real volume, but that is a battle  for another day. Today you were comprehensively WRONG.

And no *Theoak* the whole of the crypto space isn't captured by the government.
Ripple was up over 70% today! It's retraced a bit. XRP was screwed in the last bull run. Perhaps this time it will lead the way?

https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-judge-says-sec-lawsuit-vs-ripple-labs-can-proceed-trial-some-claims-2023-07-13/

Ripple Labs notches landmark win in SEC case over XRP cryptocurrency

July 13 (Reuters) - Ripple Labs Inc did not violate federal securities law by selling its XRP token on public exchanges, a U.S. judge ruled on Thursday, a landmark legal victory for the cryptocurrency industry that sent the value of XRP soaring.

XRP was up 75% by late afternoon on Thursday, according to Refinitiv Eikon data.

The ruling by U.S. District Judge Analisa Torres was the first win for a cryptocurrency company in a case brought by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission -- though it did also give the SEC a partial victory.

While the decision is specific to the facts of the case, it likely will provide ammunition for other crypto firms battling the SEC over whether their products fall under the regulator's jurisdiction.

An SEC spokesperson said the agency was pleased with part of the ruling in which the judge held that Ripple violated federal securities law by selling XRP directly to sophisticated investors.

It is possible for the ruling to be appealed once a final judgment is issued, or if the judge allows it before then.

The SEC spokesperson said the regulator was reviewing the decision.

Ripple Chief Executive Brad Garlinghouse in an interview called the ruling "a huge win for Ripple but more importantly for the industry overall in the U.S."

Coinbase (COIN.O), the largest U.S. crypto exchange, said it would again allow trading of XRP on its platform.

"We’ve read Judge Torres’ thoughtful decision. We’ve carefully reviewed our analysis. It’s time to relist," Coinbase chief legal officer Paul Grewal said on Twitter.

WHEN CRYPTO IS NOT A SECURITY
The SEC had accused the company and its current and former chief executives of conducting a $1.3 billion unregistered securities offering by selling XRP, which Ripple's founders created in 2012.

The case has been closely watched in the cryptocurrency industry, which disputes the SEC's assertion that the vast majority of crypto tokens are securities and subject to its strict investor protection rules. The agency has brought more than 100 enforcement crypto actions, claiming various tokens are securities, but many of those have ended in settlements.

In the few cases that have gone to court, judges have agreed with the SEC that the crypto assets at issue were securities, which unlike assets such as commodities are strictly regulated, must be registered with the SEC by their issuer and require detailed disclosures to inform investors of potential risks.

Torres ruled that Ripple's XRP sales on public cryptocurrency exchanges were not offers of securities under the law, because purchasers did not have a reasonable expectation of profit tied to Ripple's efforts.

Those sales were "blind bid/ask transactions," she said, in which buyers "could not have known if their payments of money went to Ripple, or any other seller of XRP."

Torres applied a U.S. Supreme Court case that said "an investment of money in a common enterprise with profits to come solely from the efforts of others," is a kind of security called an investment contract.

XRP sales on cryptocurrency platforms by Garlinghouse and co-founder and former CEO Chris Larsen, and other distributions including compensation to employees also did not involve securities, Torres ruled.

PARTIAL WIN FOR THE SEC
The SEC won a partial victory as Torres found the company's $728.9 million of XRP sales to hedge funds and other sophisticated buyers amounted to unregistered sales of securities.

Torres ruled that Ripple's marketing aimed at institutional investors made clear the company "was pitching a speculative value proposition for XRP" that depended on company efforts to develop the blockchain infrastructure behind the digital asset.

She said a jury must decide whether Garlinghouse and Larsen aided the company's violation of law, and that the defendants cannot argue at trial that they lacked "fair notice" that XRP was a cryptocurrency.

"The law does not require the SEC to warn all potential violators on an individual or industry level," she said.

CALLS FOR LEGISLATION
Gary DeWaal, an attorney at Katten Muchin Rosenman, said the ruling should help Coinbase in fighting its own SEC case.

The market reaction indicates the ruling is a "tremendous event for the industry," he said.

Both the Ripple and Coinbase cases focus on registration requirements and whether certain digital assets are securities under U.S. law.

The crypto industry has called for legislation to provide clear rules for tokens, and the ruling brought new calls for Congress to clarify the status of digital assets.

House of Representatives Majority Whip Tom Emmer, a Republican, in a post on Twitter said the ruling established that "a token is separate and distinct from an investment contract it may or may not be part of."

"Now, let’s make it law," he said.

Reporting by Jody Godoy and Chris Prentice in New York and Tom Hals in Wilmington, Delaware; Editing by Chizu Nomiyama, Conor Humphries, Leslie Adler and David Gregorio

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #9641 on: July 13, 2023, 07:05:09 PM »
The reason Bitcoin is lagging today is because of the recent ESG ratings that came out for cryptos. Like it or not, ESG is a factor.

https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2023/07/13/ethereum-tops-new-crypto-esg-ranking-bitcoin-slammed-for-heavy-energy-usage/

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« Reply #9642 on: July 13, 2023, 07:09:54 PM »
 

I never said whole crypto space is captured by government. I said over  a long enough  time frame coins like Eth (pos) become more and more centralised and end up being captured as they resemble the existing fiat system. This will play out over decades, rest of shitn coin will follown their  true price discovery ,0.

As for shit  coins I stated  only 100M people today are in crypto out of 7billion +. So far more retards yet to come into the space to pump,dump and rug pull. 

In terms of Eth, I said it won't be classified as a security even though it should be.
https://cryptoslate.com/analysis-bitcoin-costs-1-4-billion-to-51-attack-consumes-as-much-electricity-as-morocco/

Analysis: Bitcoin Costs $1.4 Billion to 51% Attack, Consumes as Much Electricity as Morocco

To successfully conduct a 51 percent attack on the Bitcoin network would cost an incredible $1.4 billion. This massive network supports over 5 million specialized ASIC mining computers, consuming a total of 29 Terawatt hours of electricity a year—as much as the entire country of Morocco.

One of the underpinnings of the Bitcoin network is its security. The major selling points of BTC is its ability to survive censorship, repel malicious actors, and dodge regulatory scrutiny. To achieve this security, it is necessary that computers engage in an activity called ‘mining,’ the process of solving complex algorithms while adding transactions to the Bitcoin ledger.

In a clever combination of cryptography and behavioral economics, miners are rewarded for acting honestly and securing the network. These miners are selected randomly based on the percentage of the mining power they own and by extension the percentage of computer hardware that they own.

One of the key concepts in the Bitcoin blockchain is that the longest chain of blocks (equal to the longest string of selected miners) is considered the ‘real’ Bitcoin, or the real state of the ledger.

However, there is one vulnerability to this system. If an individual, or group of individuals, is able to secure more than fifty percent of the network, then they would be able to take control over it: a so-called fifty-one percent attack. Once taken over, this group could rewrite the supposedly immutable Bitcoin history, change the core software on the system, steal Bitcoin from users, and conduct a whole host of other nefarious acts.

Why Mining is Expensive

In order to secure the network against fifty-one percent attacks, it is crucial that inordinately expensive processes are required for any one group to gain control of more than half the network. As such, the process of mining is extremely electricity-intensive, and intentionally so. The purportedly ‘wasteful’ Bitcoin mining makes the cost of taking over the network impractical.

Analysts at CryptoSlate were able to compute the amount of money it would take to conduct such an attack. To gain a sustainable 50 percent or more of the network, it would require that an organization either build its own facilities or collude with existing Bitcoin miners.

For the full figures and calculations, scroll to the “Calculations and Math” section at the footer of the article.

By the Numbers

Based on the current number of computations produced by the computers solving the Bitcoin algorithm, a.k.a. the network hash rate, it would cost approximately $1.4 billion to conduct a fifty-one percent attack.

Such an attack would require 2.4 million of the most advanced ASIC computers currently available. To house these units it would require approximately $250 million in infrastructure, including buildings, ventilation, and other construction costs.

This many ASICs would consume roughly 29.3 Terawatts of electricity annually, roughly the same amount of electricity that is consumed by the entire country of Morocco.

At a standard electricity rate of $0.12 per kWh, mining one Bitcoin costs $6100.

To run all of these ASICs would cost over $2 million per day in electricity alone. Labor and other miscellaneous costs would add another $240 thousand to this daily figure. Note, these figures do not include potential costs that could be recouped by selling Bitcoin back into the market during the chaos. It is possible that an attacker could recoup 20-100 percent of the costs depending on the health of the Bitcoin market at the time of the sale, potentially reducing the cost of attack.

Note, these metrics mirror what the total Bitcoin network currently consumes, not accounting for higher electricity costs and mining with inefficient hardware.

What this Means for Bitcoin

The astronomical costs to fifty-one percent attack Bitcoin make it fairly secure from a potential attack from an outsider. It is quite unlikely that any private entity would be able to amass the funds, or wherewithal, to attack the Bitcoin network. For a public network that facilitates over 250 thousand transactions per day, it is necessary for a network to be this secure.

Even if such an attack were possible, such an exercise would render any spoils near worthless as the confidence in the Bitcoin network would be destroyed.

That said, the network is still highly vulnerable to cartels. Some sources estimate that 70-80 percent of mining is conducted in China. Although these miners are competitors, many of them regularly meet with each other at conferences and other events. Since there are some lucrative incentives to collude, such as passing favorable updates to the Bitcoin software, it is possible that these miners are already impacting the direction of software updates to the underlying protocol.

Another such doomsday scenario is that a government, such as China’s, could gather the resources necessary to build this number of mining facilities, or even commandeer existing ones through nationalization.

Even considering all of these possibilities, the cost to totally undermine the Bitcoin network is astronomical. This clever combination of cryptography and financial incentives makes Bitcoin an incredibly secure public network, and, consequently, is one of the major reasons for Bitcoin’s underlying value and appeal as a store of value and a means of commerce.

However, how the technology will survive against more efficient security algorithms, such as proof-of-stake, is another matter entirely.

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« Reply #9643 on: July 13, 2023, 10:18:41 PM »
Ripple was up over 70% today! It's retraced a bit. XRP was screwed in the last bull run. Perhaps this time it will lead the way?


The ripple guys deserve to have the book thrown at them. As far as XRP goes it's maybe lost too much ground as a cryptocurrency and tradfi have been working on similar solutions. A shame as it might have been something special.

The reason Bitcoin is lagging today is because of the recent ESG ratings that came out for cryptos. Like it or not, ESG is a factor.

https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2023/07/13/ethereum-tops-new-crypto-esg-ranking-bitcoin-slammed-for-heavy-energy-usage/

I think BTC was just lagging because the judgment in Ripple vs SEC was bullish only for alts. They were just making up some of the ground they lost. Normal service will resume with BTC leading.


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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #9644 on: July 14, 2023, 06:14:31 AM »
 

I never said whole crypto space is captured by government. I said over  a long enough  time frame coins like Eth (pos) become more and more centralised and end up being captured as they resemble the existing fiat system. This will play out over decades, rest of shitn coin will follown their  true price discovery ,0.

As for shit  coins I stated  only 100M people today are in crypto out of 7billion +. So far more retards yet to come into the space to pump,dump and rug pull. 

In terms of Eth, I said it won't be classified as a security even though it should be.

I’ve always believed this. The whole reason for dropping the Gold Standard is because it put “Golden Handcuffs” on government spending. Why would these same governments advocate another type of currency that can’t be created out of thin air?

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #9645 on: July 14, 2023, 03:43:28 PM »
Why would these same governments advocate another type of currency that can’t be created out of thin air?

Exactly. They won’t. The measurement is a currency’s value vs another currency, not Gold which is why they ditched it. Been almost 50yrs and nothing has collapsed despite the constant end of fiat fears.

We shut down the entire globe. Printed money out of thin air. Experienced the largest property boom of our young generation, experienced the largest wage inflation of our generation, the best employment of our generation. Yet all we hear of is misery and collapse.

Printing money is awesome if you understand how to use it to your advantage which these global controllers clearly do. Average Joe has no fucking idea and keeps resetting their debt clock.

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« Reply #9646 on: July 14, 2023, 03:59:20 PM »
Ripple was up over 70% today! It's retraced a bit. XRP was screwed in the last bull run. Perhaps this time it will lead the way?

Down for 2,000 days and dumped right at the sweet spot.

Hyped like crazy only to be dumped on…… Oh but the big wave is coming…. You just need to wait another 600+ days and it’ll go to $15 lol 😂 

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #9647 on: July 14, 2023, 04:24:19 PM »
Down for 2,000 days and dumped right at the sweet spot.

Hyped like crazy only to be dumped on…… Oh but the big wave is coming…. You just need to wait another 600+ days and it’ll go to $15 lol 😂
So far it has not really dumped much post-recent-SEC-verdict. It's up 53.69% for the past 7 days. Look at the graph.

XRP was screwed when the SEC sued Ripple. That's what really tanked and suppressed the price. Some would argue the recent verdict makes XRP the only regulated crypto to date.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #9648 on: July 14, 2023, 04:31:41 PM »
The ripple guys deserve to have the book thrown at them. As far as XRP goes it's maybe lost too much ground as a cryptocurrency and tradfi have been working on similar solutions. A shame as it might have been something special.

I think BTC was just lagging because the judgment in Ripple vs SEC was bullish only for alts. They were just making up some of the ground they lost. Normal service will resume with BTC leading.
Well if you zoom out 3 years then BTC is trailing ETH, BNB, XRP, SOL, DOGE.

Zoom 5 years out and BTC edges out ETH by a little and still trails BNB and DOGE significantly.

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« Reply #9649 on: July 14, 2023, 04:50:09 PM »
Exactly. They won’t. The measurement is a currency’s value vs another currency, not Gold which is why they ditched it. Been almost 50yrs and nothing has collapsed despite the constant end of fiat fears.

We shut down the entire globe. Printed money out of thin air. Experienced the largest property boom of our young generation, experienced the largest wage inflation of our generation, the best employment of our generation. Yet all we hear of is misery and collapse.

Printing money is awesome if you understand how to use it to your advantage which these global controllers clearly do. Average Joe has no fucking idea and keeps resetting their debt clock.

China coming on board was a huge factor in this. The massive growth of the Chinese economy for 30 years was extremely deflationary allowing the financial establishment to get away with massive devaluation without a corresponding rise in prices. Now that China’s growth has essentially halted, they won’t be able to get away with the shenanigans to the same extent.