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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #9325 on: March 15, 2023, 04:27:02 AM »
A few years ago it didn’t follow the stock market.

This cycle it did follow the stock market.

I assume you are referring to crypto following the stock market downward in the last couple of stock market crashes and in the current bear market.

But in my opinion crypto seems to also have followed the stock market upward during the last bull market, which was the longest lasting bull market in the history of the stock market.

But I could be mistaken.  I've been paying attention to the stock market since 2008, but I've only started paying attention to crypto the last several years.  I'm only sharing my observation, and I'm by no means a crypto expert like other Getbiggers here.

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« Reply #9326 on: March 15, 2023, 07:29:29 AM »
Wow some serious bank run fears bubbling along today both in Europe and USA. Where to put your money when you no longer trust banks (and when you no longer trust money to hold its value)... BITCOIN.

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« Reply #9327 on: March 15, 2023, 11:35:07 AM »
Wow some serious bank run fears bubbling along today both in Europe and USA. Where to put your money when you no longer trust banks (and when you no longer trust money to hold its value)... BITCOIN.

Yes, but with which crypto exchange?  One too many have already collapsed and people were unable to withdraw/transfer their crypto.

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« Reply #9328 on: March 15, 2023, 11:39:35 AM »
Yes, but with which crypto exchange?  One too many have already collapsed and people were unable to withdraw/transfer their crypto.
Exchanges and banks should at the very least match their customers' funds. Would be great to see an exchange or bank allow a complete run on the bank and survive. That would instill confidence in customers. Banks and exchanges' main business model should be to be able to survive a 100% run on the bank.

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« Reply #9329 on: March 15, 2023, 12:37:58 PM »
I assume you are referring to crypto following the stock market downward in the last couple of stock market crashes and in the current bear market.

But in my opinion crypto seems to also have followed the stock market upward during the last bull market, which was the longest lasting bull market in the history of the stock market.

But I could be mistaken.  I've been paying attention to the stock market since 2008, but I've only started paying attention to crypto the last several years.  I'm only sharing my observation, and I'm by no means a crypto expert like other Getbiggers here.


You missed my part about liquidity which was commonality between the two moving together. The point being, they move together only when there is a reason for them to move together. Where they don’t have common ground, they do their own thing

Crypto should not act like a tech stock if it is claiming to be a monetary tool.

If it’s still following the S&P then what you should consider is always SVB the first sign of a liquidity crunch for tech startups. If it is then with 2 more rate hikes and no cuts until end of year we might see a total bloodbath in tech in which case crypto will go with it.

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« Reply #9330 on: March 15, 2023, 04:00:38 PM »
Wow some serious bank run fears bubbling along today both in Europe and USA. Where to put your money when you no longer trust banks (and when you no longer trust money to hold its value)... BITCOIN.
physical gold if you are smart

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« Reply #9331 on: March 15, 2023, 06:32:53 PM »
physical gold if you are smart

Try carrying that gold across and boarder or subdividing it into exchangeable pieces or sending it to relatives across the world or storing it in a way it cannot be confiscated, or buying what is actually Tungsten coated in gold and then see how smart you are ... :)

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« Reply #9332 on: March 15, 2023, 06:34:11 PM »
Yes, but with which crypto exchange?  One too many have already collapsed and people were unable to withdraw/transfer their crypto.

This has already been answered soooooo many times.

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« Reply #9333 on: March 15, 2023, 09:48:50 PM »
the usual   '' doom and gloom ''  comments in this thread . . .

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« Reply #9334 on: March 16, 2023, 12:09:38 AM »
Try carrying that gold across and boarder or subdividing it into exchangeable pieces or sending it to relatives across the world or storing it in a way it cannot be confiscated, or buying what is actually Tungsten coated in gold and then see how smart you are ... :)
Why would I want to do any of that retarded shit

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« Reply #9335 on: March 16, 2023, 05:00:43 AM »
This has already been answered soooooo many times.

I don't read every post in this thread, and I don't need an answer.  It was a rhetorical question, to make the point that crypto isn't that much safter than bank deposits.

Bank deposits are at least FDIC insured up to $250,000 per depositor, per insured bank, for each account ownership category.

Crypto cold storage?  Risky as well for so many reasons.

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« Reply #9336 on: March 16, 2023, 08:34:40 AM »
I don't read every post in this thread, and I don't need an answer.  It was a rhetorical question, to make the point that crypto isn't that much safter than bank deposits.

Bank deposits are at least FDIC insured up to $250,000 per depositor, per insured bank, for each account ownership category.

Crypto cold storage?  Risky as well for so many reasons.

Dude, really? Think about what you just said for a moment...

Bank deposits are insured for money (up to 250K), OF WHICH THE TREASURY CAN INFINITELY PRINT....

In other words, infinitely devalue.

Bitcoin is our protection against that...

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« Reply #9337 on: March 16, 2023, 11:05:09 AM »
Dude, really? Think about what you just said for a moment...

Bank deposits are insured for money (up to 250K), OF WHICH THE TREASURY CAN INFINITELY PRINT....

In other words, infinitely devalue.

Bitcoin is our protection against that...

Why would the treasury print more money for that?  The money would come from the fees that banks pay into the Deposit Insurance Fund.  They'd just be moving money that already exists.

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« Reply #9338 on: March 16, 2023, 11:40:28 AM »
gib is a grifter and a bullshit artist, im not shitting on bitcoin, i understand the value of protection from inflation and counter fitting, i used to work as a driver  for an escort agency and the girls would take every penny they made at the end of the night and dump it all in to a bit coin  ATM and that could be any where from $5000 to $100,000 in just one night


that being said , bit coin is real, but it does also get used as a ponzi/pyramid scheme by guys like gib to pump up the bottem

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« Reply #9339 on: March 16, 2023, 02:24:05 PM »
gib is a grifter and a bullshit artist, im not shitting on bitcoin, i understand the value of protection from inflation and counter fitting, i used to work as a driver  for an escort agency and the girls would take every penny they made at the end of the night and dump it all in to a bit coin  ATM and that could be any where from $5000 to $100,000 in just one night


that being said , bit coin is real, but it does also get used as a ponzi/pyramid scheme by guys like gib to pump up the bottem

Are they hiring? I know a guy with a BMW...

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« Reply #9340 on: March 16, 2023, 02:29:55 PM »


Bitcoin Gold and silver and lead is our protection against that...

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« Reply #9341 on: March 16, 2023, 06:29:32 PM »
Why would the treasury print more money for that?  The money would come from the fees that banks pay into the Deposit Insurance Fund.  They'd just be moving money that already exists.

Yes, you are sort of right with the point you make here. The problem occurs when the total funds they have from deposits exceeds the amounts they need to pay out. That is when the money printing starts. Either way, with Bitcoin you self custody. With cash you take counterparty risk. With Bitcoin you can self store store any amount. With cash, not only do you have counterparty risk, but its capped at 250K.

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« Reply #9342 on: March 16, 2023, 06:31:18 PM »
gib is a grifter and a bullshit artist, im not shitting on bitcoin, i understand the value of protection from inflation and counter fitting, i used to work as a driver  for an escort agency and the girls would take every penny they made at the end of the night and dump it all in to a bit coin  ATM and that could be any where from $5000 to $100,000 in just one night


that being said , bit coin is real, but it does also get used as a ponzi/pyramid scheme by guys like gib to pump up the bottem

Bitcoin is not a Ponzi scheme as the ledger is public, and every single block from the outset needs to be mined. But yes, Bitcoin (just like cash) can be used in a Ponzi scheme. Its important to learn the difference.

As for those whores who were putting money into Bitcoin, hats off to them. Smart ladies.

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« Reply #9343 on: March 16, 2023, 07:07:59 PM »
Bitcoin is not a Ponzi scheme as the ledger is public, and every single block from the outset needs to be mined. But yes, Bitcoin (just like cash) can be used in a Ponzi scheme. Its important to learn the difference.

As for those whores who were putting money into Bitcoin, hats off to them. Smart ladies.

 ::)   i did not say bit coin is a ponzi scheme


i said "YOU" are the ponzi scheme

i know the differance....

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« Reply #9344 on: March 16, 2023, 08:29:09 PM »
::)   i did not say bit coin is a ponzi scheme


i said "YOU" are the ponzi scheme

i know the differance....

I think you are confusing concept. A Ponzi scheme is an abstract concept, not capable of being a person. However, a person can engage in Ponzi scheme. Maybe that's what you mean. If so, bear in mind that Bitcoin is in itself a bearer instrument, so in the case of Bitcoin, if you are buying and holding in self custody, you guarantee yourself that you are not being scammed in a Ponzi scheme. Remember, the Bitcoin ledger is public, decentralized and immutable.

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« Reply #9345 on: March 16, 2023, 08:42:58 PM »
I think you are confusing concept. A Ponzi scheme is an abstract concept, not capable of being a person. However, a person can engage in Ponzi scheme. Maybe that's what you mean. If so, bear in mind that Bitcoin is in itself a bearer instrument, so in the case of Bitcoin, if you are buying and holding in self custody, you guarantee yourself that you are not being scammed in a Ponzi scheme. Remember, the Bitcoin ledger is public, decentralized and immutable.

i bet you have 100 different accounts spread out on various chat forums where you pump bit coin,      you're just making your rounds....

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« Reply #9346 on: March 16, 2023, 09:05:13 PM »
https://blockworks.co/news/australian-bank-nab-stablecoin-ethereum

‘Big Four’ Australian Bank Issues Stablecoin On Ethereum
With its recent stablecoin pilot, NAB joins a growing list of major financial institutions to use the Ethereum blockchain

One of Australia’s ‘big four’ banks says it has completed its first intra-bank cross-border transaction using its own stablecoin via Ethereum.

The transaction, part of a National Australia Bank (NAB) pilot for an AUD-backed stablecoin, involved deploying stablecoin smart contracts for seven major global currencies, showcasing the potential to shorten cross-border transactions from days to minutes.

NAB intends to issue its stablecoin under the ticker “AUDN,” which will be managed as a liability on its books. The firm further plans to enable transactions for the Australian, New Zealand, Singapore and US dollars, as well as the euro, yen and pound sterling.

Digital asset infrastructure provider Fireblocks and fintech platform Blockfold assisting with the smart contracts, direct custody of the tokens (alongside minting and burning). NAB says its stablecoin was issued as an ERC-20 token.

“We believe that elements of the future of finance will be blockchain enabled and we’re already witnessing rapid change in the tokenisation market,” Drew Bradford, NAB Markets Executive General Manager, said in a statement.

The bank claimed it’s the world’s first major financial institution to process a cross-border stablecoin transaction via a public Layer-1 blockchain. A NAB spokesperson shared the current AUDN token contract with Blockworks, viewable on Etherscan.

In any case, ANZ — another ‘big four’ Australian bank — became the first institution in the country to issue and conduct payment of a stablecoin linked to the nation’s dollar last year, also via Ethereum, although it wasn’t cross-border.

As well, JPMorgan alongside Singapore’s DBS Bank and others executed foreign exchange transactions using tokenized deposits, a slightly different concept to stablecoins, as part of a 2022 pilot. The group used Ethereum Layer-2 network Polygon for the trades.

A number of institutions worldwide have also leveraged Ethereum and Polygon to issue tokenized bonds.

Still, NAB considers its recent stablecoin transaction a milestone for the bank. It expects to support “select corporate and institutional clients” in transacting with digital assets by the end of the year.

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« Reply #9347 on: March 16, 2023, 09:09:04 PM »
https://cryptonews.com/news/ethereums-annualized-deflation-rate-briefly-surpasses-5-heres-how-that-can-impact-the-eth-price.htm

Ethereum’s Annualized Deflation Rate Briefly Surpasses 5% - Here’s How That Can Impact The ETH Price

The rate at which the Ether (ETH) supply is deflating, which has been accelerating in recent weeks, recently saw a spike higher. Ether is the cryptocurrency that powers the smart-contract-enabled Ethereum blockchain. ETH is the world’s second most valuable cryptocurrency by market capitalization and Ethereum is the dominant blockchain in Decentralized Finance.

Last Saturday, the annualized burn rate as a result of Ethereum Improvement Proposal 1559 jumped to its highest since last May at 5.679%, outstripping the Ether issuance rate of 0.578% by a whopping 5.101%. The deflation rate has since dropped to around 1.75% as of Wednesday the 15th of March.



Cryptocurrency markets saw extreme volatility last weekend and at the beginning of this week amid uncertainty relating to last week’s series of major regional US bank collapses and the policymaker response. Ether was last changing hands on exchanges in the upper-$1,600s, having hit multi-month highs above $1,700 earlier this week.



The spike in the Ether burn rate came amid a jump in the Ethereum gas price, a fee charged to users of the network, to its highest level since last May. If demand for the Ethereum network continues to rise, causing a rise in network congestion, that will cause further upside in Ethereum gas fees, which will translate to a further acceleration in the cryptocurrency’s rate of deflation. An accelerating deflation rate is likely to be a long-term tailwind for the ETH price.

Explainer – What is Driving the Accelerating ETH Deflation Rate?

Before answering the question as to what is driving the increase in the ETH deflation rate, we need to understand why ETH deflation even happens at all and that requires an understanding of how the Ethereum network fee structure works. Network fees are split into two components. The first is a base fee that all users must pay to ensure that their transaction is accepted and processed on the blockchain.

There is then an optional tip that users can pay to have their transaction processed more quickly. The Ethereum network automatically calculates the base fee, which rises at times of heavy network traffic. Ethereum Improvement Proposal (EIP) 1559, which was implemented into the Ethereum code in the London hardfork in August 2021, requires that all of these base fees paid by users are then burned, removing the tokens from circulation permanently.

As a result, when the base gas fee rises, the rate at which Ether is burned also rises. When this burn rate exceeds the ETH Issuance Rate, which is around 0.55%, the ETH supply will decline. ETH is issued to the nodes and stakers that secure the Ethereum network.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #9348 on: March 16, 2023, 10:20:20 PM »
gib is a grifter and a bullshit artist, im not shitting on bitcoin, i understand the value of protection from inflation and counter fitting, i used to work as a driver  for an escort agency and the girls would take every penny they made at the end of the night and dump it all in to a bit coin  ATM and that could be any where from $5000 to $100,000 in just one night


that being said , bit coin is real, but it does also get used as a ponzi/pyramid scheme by guys like gib to pump up the bottem

How is he using btc as a pomzi scheme? Probably only gib and I who see btc in the same light and have no influence  on pumping or calling the bottom. It's either btc goes to 0 or 1million and if it goes to 1million, it's going a lot higher.

What you see is shitcoiners fuding btc as old tech, prone to 51% attack, killing the Amazon rainforest just so they can pump their bags because they're salty they missed out on an early entry.

99% of 20000+ coins are outright scams and 1% will eventually die out in the long run or end up using  using satoshi as unit of account. People are not going to use multiple coins for micro payments. Btc is the best form of money humanity has ever had and its ushering in a new era or freedom and progress.

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« Reply #9349 on: March 17, 2023, 01:23:19 AM »
i bet you have 100 different accounts spread out on various chat forums where you pump bit coin,      you're just making your rounds....

I'll bet you a Bitcoin I don't. Deal?