No i was refferring to the group in general, who gets ripped by everybody.. im sure Chic is a stand up guy , i know he is a straight shooter and that alone is a tribute to his character..Dave on the other hand Ive seen in person, i live in NYC and on a couple of time i seen him in the club ..gettin all high with his ugly ass freinds... so even though i never spoke to him I know he is a duche bag, dave can kiss my a** and I would tell that to his face if he asked..