Scientist says mini ice age coming in 15 years

[polychronopolous]

the problem with this theory is that there are tens of thousands of professors, post-docs, and graduate students ready to make a name for themselves and prove your thesis wrong. if they can't that's pretty good evidence that you're not falsifying your data and your thesis may be correct.

again, look at these 11 slide at http://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2015-whats-warming-the-world/

do you believe the first slide, that measured land-ocean temps have increased 1.4 F since 1880 ?  Dramatically so since 1950 ?

do you believe the ninth slide, that the amount of CO2 has increased 40% since 1750?

what part of the data do you think is being falsified?

Oh WOW!!!

Professors and Post Grad Students!!! 

[timfogarty]

Oh WOW!!!

Professors and Post Grad Students!!!  

Yes.  Great way to advance your budding career. Publish something radical while showing others how you got your results, which they can then duplicate or prove you wrong.

[funk51]

Snowpiercer-reference of Peace

i actually liked that movie....

[SF1900]

Oh WOW!!!

Professors and Post Grad Students!!! 

Well, who else would you look toward to for information about science?

Politicians? 

[_aj_]

Well, who else would you look toward to for information about science?

Same place I always do: Archer Daniels Midland.

[V Man]

When I first read the thread title, I thought it said "Mini Mice age". I was thinking wtf? Who cares about mini mice?



Carry on

[Marty Champions]

You fools try to be funny and make jokes rather than learning a new thing everytime

[_aj_]

You fools try to be funny and make jokes rather than learning a new thing everytime

bringing teh realz.

[V Man]

You fools try to be funny and make jokes rather than learning a new thing everytime

That's because laughter counteracts the effects of heme iron.

[SF1900]

Same place I always do: Archer Daniels Midland.

What about Falcon?

[_aj_]

What about Falcon?

He just ridicules my lack of seriousness about electricity.

[Parker]

When I first read the thread title, I thought it said "Mini Mice age". I was thinking wtf? Who cares about mini mice?



Carry on

No, we only care about supersized, myostatin lacking mice

[Voice of Doom]

The sun is the single largest factor on earth's climate.  Maybe there's a new tax we can pay to make it stop?

[polychronopolous]

The sun is the single largest factor on earth's climate.  Maybe there's a new tax we can pay to make it stop?

Give them enough time and I'm sure one of these liberal hipster dickheads will think of something.

[ritch]

The sun is the single largest factor on earth's climate.  Maybe there's a new tax we can pay to make it stop?

sounds like a plan for Mr Burns...

[Necrosis]

The sun is the single largest factor on earth's climate.  Maybe there's a new tax we can pay to make it stop?

it is not, don;t let facts get in your way.

[_aj_]

it is not, don;t let facts get in your way.

Wait...are you saying that the sun is NOT the single largest determinant of our climate? Hahaha! You Global Warming zealots are a riot.

[muscleman-2013]

I was talking about the mechanism that assesses the reliability and/or validity of claims. Not the claims itself.

The "Scientific Method" has not be proven to be complete bullshit time and time again. Where are you getting this information from? lol. Time and time again, the Scientific Method has been used to develop technology and cure diseases.

What other method, other than the Scientific Method, can replace it? If you have another method, you better go pick up your Nobel Prize!  

Plus, the historical method is mainly related to assessing HISTORY, not science. We are talking about science here. Please keep with the conversation, gramps. Thanks.  

here we go, stupid people trying to sound smart so they start talking about science

 

[muscleman-2013]

the problem with this theory is that there are tens of thousands of professors, post-docs, and graduate students ready to make a name for themselves and prove your thesis wrong.

I doubt that.  They don't want to be ostracized.

[timfogarty]

Wait...are you saying that the sun is NOT the single largest determinant of our climate? Hahaha! You Global Warming zealots are a riot.

Variations of the sun's output is not. That interactive graphics I posted make that very clear.

[_aj_]

Variations of the sun's output is not. That interactive graphics I posted make that very clear.

So the Maunder Minimum didn't happen?

[timfogarty]

So the Maunder Minimum didn't happen?

Correlation is not causation.  But it doesn't even correlate well.  From wikipedia:

Note that the term "Little Ice Age" applied to the Maunder minimum is something of a misnomer as it implies a period of unremitting cold (and on a global scale), which is not the case. For example, the coldest winter in the Central England Temperature record is 1683-4, but the winter just 2 years later (both in the middle of the Maunder minimum) was the fifth warmest in the whole 350-year CET record. Furthermore, summers during the Maunder minimum were not significantly different to those seen in subsequent years. The drop in global average temperatures in paleoclimate reconstructions at the start of the Little Ice Age was between about 1560 and 1600, whereas the Maunder minimum began almost 50 years later.

And note the "and on a global scale".  The "Little Ice Age" was not global.  While Northern Europe and the US had very cold winters, southern Europe, Canada and Greenland did not.

[_aj_]

Correlation is not causation.  But it doesn't even correlate well.  From wikipedia:

Note that the term "Little Ice Age" applied to the Maunder minimum is something of a misnomer as it implies a period of unremitting cold (and on a global scale), which is not the case. For example, the coldest winter in the Central England Temperature record is 1683-4, but the winter just 2 years later (both in the middle of the Maunder minimum) was the fifth warmest in the whole 350-year CET record. Furthermore, summers during the Maunder minimum were not significantly different to those seen in subsequent years. The drop in global average temperatures in paleoclimate reconstructions at the start of the Little Ice Age was between about 1560 and 1600, whereas the Maunder minimum began almost 50 years later.

And note the "and on a global scale".  The "Little Ice Age" was not global.  While Northern Europe and the US had very cold winters, southern Europe, Canada and Greenland did not.

I will now ponder this. Thanks.

[markofan]

It's the sun that drives climate change (which is always going on) not so-called man made.

Lots of videos here of different real scientists explaining how the sun controls our climate.

[ Invalid YouTube link ]climate+change+sun

[timfogarty]

It's the sun that drives climate change (which is always going on) not so-called man made.

http://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2015-whats-warming-the-world/

http://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2015-whats-warming-the-world/

http://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2015-whats-warming-the-world/

http://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2015-whats-warming-the-world/

Jump to the last slide if you must.  The warming effect of greenhouse gasses and ozone, plus the cooling effect from aerosols (burning of coal), deforestation and volcanic activity, and the ups and downs of solar output and orbit wobble matched the observed values amazingly well.