Dennis Wolf hitting calves for the Olympia!

[SF1900]

Really, you can extend this reasoning to any body part, and bodybuilding in general.

Of course, but calves and forearms appear to be extremely resistant to getting bigger, when compared to other muscle groups. Perhaps because they are the two body parts that are constantly being worked pretty much nonstop.

[Ronnie Rep]

Here's the thing. I don't need to train delts crazy hard but people may think i train them hard as they look good. Then they look at my calves and say "oh man, what a lazy tard, hahaha, he has sissy calves,he should put some effort into them"

Yet it's the opposite of what they think! (but I no longer even train calves, makes 0 difference, absolutely none. And get this (tape mesure does not lie...)

When I do seated calve raises, they get smaller, WTF???

they get a slight tad bigger if my bodyweight goes up, that's it.

Gotta hit them from different angles. I agree calves are genetic, and a stubborn muscle if you aren't blessed with good genetics. But you can improve them if you are smart about it.

[ritch]

Gotta hit them from different angles. I agree calves are genetic, and a stubborn muscle if you aren't blessed with good genetics. But you can improve them if you are smart about it.

do you seriously think I didn't do that??? C'mon man. Only in the last 2 years I gave this shit up (calves...) I mean if in 24 years they did not become somewhat decent, it's pure insanity to keep on doing them thinking

"this time will be different"...

[viking1]

Nerve damage. Nothing he does will make them grow.

[honest]

calves respond you just need to put the time and effort in, you will never change their shape or attachment, but if anyone thinks Ronnies calves just came up from injections their wrong it was a combo of training and shots that stretched the muscle fascia. Wolfs calves are terrible because he doesn't train them properly, they wouldn't be great but they could be better, he is a total pump and insulin load bodybuilder. He hasn't brought up any weaknesses in his time as a pro, only become a bigger version of what he started with due to the increased dosages of HGH and Insulin. typical modern day all drugs bodybuilder.

[illuminati]

calves respond you just need to put the time and effort in, you will never change their shape or attachment, but if anyone thinks Ronnies calves just came up from injections their wrong it was a combo of training and shots that stretched the muscle fascia. Wolfs calves are terrible because he doesn't train them properly, they wouldn't be great but they could be better, he is a total pump and insulin load bodybuilder. He hasn't brought up any weaknesses in his time as a pro, only become a bigger version of what he started with due to the increased dosages of HGH and Insulin. typical modern day all drugs bodybuilder.

Yes that is a fair assumption.
I don't see Dennis having improved any of his weak points.

They are probably not all genetically weak areas.
He just trains them in the same manner he trains his good
Parts, and clearly they do not respond to that.

Shame really he could of been a possible MR O winner.

[ritch]

looks like we got some people here who know better than the pro's and should help them out with their advices.

[LurkerNoMore]

Love the fact that he unseals the supplement jug in the beginning. He obviously had never seen yet alone tasted that thing before in his life.

You beat me to it.

[DroppingPlates]

Calves are like forearms. Either you have them or you dont. Look at Phils forearms and look at Kais. Kai works his forearms. I am not even sure if Phil really works his forearms at all. Look at the difference.

Boom, exactly.

Pretty naive when people believe that Wolf never trains his calves. In his case it's prob nerve damage, since he had decent calves in the past.

[illuminati]

looks like we got some people here who know better than the pro's and should help them out with their advices.

How many Pro body builders do you Know or have trained with seen training.
Many Some of the few pro's I know / seen training do work very hard.
And they bring up to the best of there ability the areas that are lagging.
& some train half assed yet end up with great physiques, yet never manage
To improve lagging body parts.

No advice given.
Looks like we have some on here who have very poor reading comprehension.
 

[kreator]

looks like we got some people here who know better than the pro's and should help them out with their advices.

you really think they are experts? i bet 95% of them can't even name 10 muscles in a human body, anybody with right genetics can get big on tons of steroids, right food and some resistance training

[thegamechanger]

here's how dorian have people train calves, compare that to the shit dennis wolf is doing

starts bout 4 minutes in

[ritch]

How many Pro body builders do you Know or have trained with seen training.
Many Some of the few pro's I know / seen training do work very hard.
And they bring up to the best of there ability the areas that are lagging.
& some train half assed yet end up with great physiques, yet never manage
To improve lagging body parts.

No advice given.
Looks like we have some on here who have very poor reading comprehension.
 

I see that offended you. But seriously man, call him up, tell him how great you are on this one, maybe he will hire you?

You seem to know what's best for them...

[Hulkotron]

Most people don't train their calves very hard in my observations.

Like they'll do 20 sets of quads and hamstrings stuff, be exhausted, throw in a couple useless pump sets of calves and call it a day.

Your chest would be shitty too if you trained it like that.

I've found one-legged calf raises to work well.  You don't even need any weight unless you are very strong, 20 reps with good form is a tough set.  There's a good thread on the training board about this.

[SF1900]

Most people don't train their calves very hard in my observations.

Like they'll do 20 sets of quads and hamstrings stuff, be exhausted, throw in a couple useless pump sets of calves and call it a day.

Your chest would be shitty too if you trained it like that.

I've found one-legged calf raises to work well.  You don't even need any weight unless you are very strong, 20 reps with good form is a tough set.  There's a good thread on the training board about this.

Answer this one question to determine if someone should work calves:

Does he/she compete?

If answered yes, then work calves.

If answered no, then it doesn't matter.

HTH;YLLS

[thegamechanger]

so having a balanced body is just for people competing? lets not forget calves isnt only for looks but also for strength.

[Hulkotron]

Yes girls also laugh at skinny calves

[SF1900]

Yes girls also laugh at skinny calves

Remember what Anabolichalo said: Arms get the girls. Legs dont matter.

[io856]

Maybe if he put half as much effort into calves as he does with shoulders they wouldn't look so pathetic.

bingo
He doesn't concentrate on the pivot of his knees and contract the gastro nicely, reps perfectly timed for a release of blood along with its bittersweet  lactate giving a nice burn. Just goes through the motion.

Yes even an IFBB pro can have ineffective resistance training of a bodypart. People latch onto certain styles through their entire amatuer and IFBB pro career and be oblivious to trainers and bystanders giving advices. An arrogance that would be almost required at a high level bodybuilding can't exactly make it there without standing up to a shitload of criticism.

[oldtimer1]

Most people don't train their calves very hard in my observations.

Like they'll do 20 sets of quads and hamstrings stuff, be exhausted, throw in a couple useless pump sets of calves and call it a day.

Your chest would be shitty too if you trained it like that.

I've found one-legged calf raises to work well.  You don't even need any weight unless you are very strong, 20 reps with good form is a tough set.  There's a good thread on the training board about this.

I agree with everything you wrote but I have never been able to put muscle on my calves. So many blacks and some Hispanics like me have these small calves.  I have never not trained them in 40 years. Nothing works. I have noticed a lot of very good sprinters have small calves. Just puzzling but there is a difference between power and strength though they are somewhat related. I remember Bill Grant used to train his calves really hard and nothing.

[SquidVicious]

Dennis training calves makes about as much sense as Heath training width.

[ritch]

I even made a pair of shoes where I screwed in wooden blocks so I'd walk around on my tippytoes in hopes of creating muscle growth.

Done them ED, EOD, E3D, and so on to once every 2 weeks as Mentzer told me on the phone. NAME DROP!!! Done the heavy stretching, every rep sheme possible, that incline treadmill program that was popular by Dante? or dog crapp at the time, nope.

But I really thought those shoes were gonna work!

Done synthol as well. Works but you gotta keep using it. Calves need 12 shots total and it just takes too much time and insanely painful, of fuck... I would blow them up for summer though, I considered it but it just ends up being kinda expensive for something nobody gives a fuck about, lol!

So I just train them once a week now, normal like just to have a strength base.

[Nether Animal]

Wolf seems so bored.. what a lazy training style.

[Big Chiro Flex]

Answer this one question to determine if someone should work calves:

Does he/she compete?

If answered yes, then work calves.

If answered no, then it doesn't matter.

HTH;YLLS

Just a friendly reminder to watch your tone when addressing Hulkotron.

[Waller]

I even made a pair of shoes where I screwed in wooden blocks so I'd walk around on my tippytoes in hopes of creating muscle growth.

Done them ED, EOD, E3D, and so on to once every 2 weeks as Mentzer told me on the phone. NAME DROP!!! Done the heavy stretching, every rep sheme possible, that incline treadmill program that was popular by Dante? or dog crapp at the time, nope.

But I really thought those shoes were gonna work!

Done synthol as well. Works but you gotta keep using it. Calves need 12 shots total and it just takes too much time and insanely painful, of fuck... I would blow them up for summer though, I considered it but it just ends up being kinda expensive for something nobody gives a fuck about, lol!

So I just train them once a week now, normal like just to have a strength base.

Rofl that's dedication. Fair play.