Ultimate Orange (the original created by Dan Duchaine, RIP) was for me the ultimate pre workout Supplement, but itīs from the market about 15-20 Years, or longer.
Todays stuff is mostly the same bullshit. If you take 50mg sildenafil + 3-4 Coffein tablets you have more pump and more drive than 2-3 Scoops of those act. mixtures.
First time i took the original Version of Ultimate Orange i trained like a Zombie that day. 135 lbs. one arm dumbell curls for 6-7 reps.