Anyone gain muscle with clenbuterol??

[theworm]

I know it cuts fat, but anyone notice gains on it?

[Waller]

Temporary parkinsons yes, gains? Not so much.

[tommywishbone]

yes

[BB]

No, at best, it's anti-catabolic, but I've never seen anyone ever gain anything steroid like from it. Even within equine circles, its main use is now simply as a bronchodilator.

[theworm]

No, at best, it's anti-catabolic, but I've never seen anyone ever gain anything steroid like from it. Even within equine circles, its main use is now is simply as a bronchodilator.

Thanks.  I was looking for something to gain lbm and not suppress natural test levels ( and I cannot afford gh).  Starting to believe no such compounds exist.

[Van_Bilderass]

I think it can be mildly anabolic but it's almost impossible to measure the eventual small gains
What it does for me: vascularity, strength, very much increased appetite (strange eh?), increased soreness from training (muscle gets tight and it feels like you do more muscle damage when lifting - might boost gains due to something related to this effect, who knows?).
I like it even though I never cut.

I'm going to try clen with L-Dopa (through Mucuna Pruriens powder) due to
this:

http://www.ergo-log.com/anabolic-effect-of-combining-salbutamol-with-l-dopa.html

[Uncle Joon]

Thanks.  I was looking for something to gain lbm and not suppress natural test levels ( and I cannot afford gh).  Starting to believe no such compounds exist.

Arimidex 1mg EOD will boost your natty test by 33 percent and is comparible to TRT

[heenok]

Effects of clen for me :

Increased strengh from the CNS stimulation
Increased fat loss (if on a caloric deficit)
Increased breathing capacity

I also notice im getting incredibly sore from trainning while using it. Never understood why. Its definitly muscle sparring, also read it inhibits myostatin.
However i never really saw actual "gains" like steroids do. But i never run it more than 2 weeks.

[Jizmo]

clenbuterol depletes magnesium and/or potassium in the muscle
thats why you cramp up like fuck on it
i remember getting calf cramps every night
and it felt like heart cramps too lol

fuck that stuff

[heenok]

I used to get heart pain from it. Also makes your crazy jittery and amped up in a weird unconfortable way, like without the focus of something like ephedrine. You are all other the place shaking and shit. Really a shitty feel but makes you lean FAST with a proper diet.

[Jizmo]

true, clen is also the only thing that EVER made me actually gain strength on a cut

not even tons of tren could do that lol

[Davidtheman100]

There are reported muscle building benefits in animals that increased their fat free mass index in turn but you're talking pebbles and coconut scraps if you're a drug abuser...

[WOOO]

  http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10902781 

[Jizmo]

wtf does that have to do with clen
clen has NOTHING to do with estrogen

[theworm]

wtf does that have to do with clen
clen has NOTHING to do with estrogen

Lol, that's what I was thinking! 

[WOOO]

wtf does that have to do with clen
clen has NOTHING to do with estrogen

Read the whole thread. Will answer your own question.

[theworm]

Read the whole thread. Will answer your own question.

Care to explain? 

[WOOO]

Care to explain? 

The arimidex comparison to trt

[Jizmo]

The arimidex comparison to trt

so what is your point really ?  
nobody needs estrogen for muscle growth and nobody ever claimed that
you need estrogen for joint health, cholesterol, glycogen retention etc though

please dont give input on AAS when youve never used any  

try to take 1mg adex ed or eod when natty

goodbye to your joints and sex drive

also an increase of 33% or 50% or whatever natural test is nothing and leads to zero gains

[f450]

so what is your point really ?  
nobody needs estrogen for muscle growth and nobody ever claimed that
you need estrogen for joint health, cholesterol, glycogen retention etc though

please dont give input on AAS when youve never used any  

try to take 1mg adex ed or eod when natty

goodbye to your joints and sex drive

also an increase of 33% or 50% or whatever natural test is nothing and leads to zero gains

Tren? 500mg? 

[WOOO]

so what is your point really ?  
nobody needs estrogen for muscle growth and nobody ever claimed that
you need estrogen for joint health, cholesterol, glycogen retention etc though

please dont give input on AAS when youve never used any  

try to take 1mg adex ed or eod when natty

goodbye to your joints and sex drive

also an increase of 33% or 50% or whatever natural test is nothing and leads to zero gains

I was posting a link to a relevant study

Are you punking me right now or are you really so simple that I need to walk you through this

[Jizmo]

I was posting a link to a relevant study

Are you punking me right now or are you really so simple that I need to walk you through this

your study is completely irrelevant

please tell me how a study showing that estrogen doesnt contribute to muscle growth is relevant to a thread about the anabolic effects of clen 

Tren? 500mg? 

1000
wouldnt have been any nicer if i was natty though

[WOOO]

your study is completely irrelevant

please tell me how a study showing that estrogen doesnt contribute to muscle growth is relevant to a thread about the anabolic effects of clen 
1000
wouldnt have been any nicer if i was natty though

Arimidex 1mg EOD will boost your natty test by 33 percent and is comparible to TRT

Either you can't read. Don't read. Or you're too busy fixing a grapefruit to read.

[Disco187]

 i just did a two wk clen fun 40micro up to 80micro a day and i gotta say i fuckin hate how i felt on that, felt like cold swets and getting chills, like a opiate withdraw. Never do that shit again,

[jon cole]

Clen makes you gaining strenght, and retaining mass while cutting.

I remember an 8 week cutting cycle 10 years ago. 8 week of clen on/off, no roids.

When i started the cut i was benching 120kg for 10, at the end of the 8 week, i was 6 kilo lighter and benching 125 for 8 reps.