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Re: Yay! McDoubles are back to a dollar each!
« Reply #250 on: January 11, 2016, 01:52:41 PM »




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Re: Yay! McDoubles are back to a dollar each!
« Reply #251 on: January 11, 2016, 02:01:26 PM »
http://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en/your_questions/our_food/do-you-use-so-called-pink-goop-in-your-chicken-mcnuggets.html



No, our Chicken McNuggets do not contain what some people call 'pink slime' or 'pink goop.'

We've seen the photo of 'pink goop' or "pink slime" in association with McDonald's. Let's set the record straight: this image in connection with McDonald's is a myth. In fact, we don't know where it came from, but it's not our food. The photo is not a representation of how we create our Chicken McNuggets, or for that matter, any item on our menu.

Each and every one of our Chicken McNuggets are made with USDA inspected boneless white meat chicken — cut from the chicken breast, tenderloins and rib meat.

Still curious about what's in a Chicken McNugget? See all of its ingredients.



So their "white meat" chicken nuggets are made from parital rib meat??? So their chicken nuggets are not all breast meat but they are white meat? OK so I'm guessing they a\can legally call them white meat as long as they are white inside. Hmmmm I wonder how they turn all the meat white?




That is now... not previously.

Again, I'm specifically talking about the previous chicken mcnugget and the MSP they used to use.


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Re: Yay! McDoubles are back to a dollar each!
« Reply #252 on: January 11, 2016, 07:31:28 PM »
Absolutely, positively wrong! You know I am a man of faith so how could you even think I am a proponent of moral relativism? It is anathema to all people of faith?  One of the main differences between a theist and secularist is the theist believes that there are moral absolutes. It doesn't matter how you feel about it or that this is your culture or beliefs. One of the gifts of Judeaism is the ideal of Ethical Monotheism -- one God and one moral system that applies to everybody. It doesn't matter that sacrificing a virgin is part of your culture -- it's wrong. It's murder. Murder is ALWAYS wrong. ALWAYS.

Now this is not to say, as I know you like to pick apart every trivial detail that should be common sense to the less hostile and agenda driven, that there are gradations of evil: not all acts of stealing are equal and some are worse than others. And any act, in and of itself, is morally neutral, it is the context that determines it's morality. Cutting open a man's chest can be an act of ruthless violence or a delicate surgical procedure. The difference between self defense and murder. The difference between the expression of love and rape. Same act, difference context and therefore morally different.

And I can choose to address or gloss over anything I want within the given framework, which in this case was my pleasure in the lowering of the price of McDoubles. The fact that it morphed into something I would never have imagine was not my intention. And I don't consider monetary policy to stimulate the economy or lower inflation a moral issue.

Pellius, since you're such an authority on morality, please give me your take on the following hypothetical.  Let's say one was working as a security guard, and 7 of your co-workers, some as old as 45, were taking advantage of and engaging in sexual relations with an under aged precocious 13 year old girl.  Would this behavior in your eyes be moral, or immoral?  If alerted to such a scenario, would you object and alert the authorities?  Also, would you feel and act similarly if the hypothetical girl in this case were your daughter?  

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Re: Yay! McDoubles are back to a dollar each!
« Reply #253 on: January 11, 2016, 08:10:36 PM »
Put one of these burgers out in the sun and see if the flies will eat it.

If flies avoid it then that's another plus in my book.

What a great country this is that we can produce a burger that contains 100% ground beef that never goes bad and flies, and hopefully other pests, avoid.

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Re: Yay! McDoubles are back to a dollar each!
« Reply #254 on: January 11, 2016, 08:16:56 PM »
Pellius, since you're such an authority on morality, please give me your take on the following hypothetical.  Let's say one was working as a security guard, and 7 of your co-workers, some as old as 45, were taking advantage of and engaging in sexual relations with an under aged precocious 13 year old girl.  Would this behavior in your eyes be moral, or immoral?  If alerted to such a scenario, would you object and alert the authorities?  Also, would you feel and act similarly if the hypothetical girl in this case were your daughter?  

There's a 104 page thread on that. Every answer to any and all  questions on that subject has been addressed.

Now it's your turn: Why are you so fanatical with your hatred of McDonald's that you will tell blatant lies. Lies that are easily, and has been on this thread, proven to be lies?

Even more importantly why do you care that I go to McDonald's and why do you care what I eat? It can't possibly be because you care about my health and well being. So this is a complete mystery to me. Perhaps you can clear that up.

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Re: Yay! McDoubles are back to a dollar each!
« Reply #255 on: January 11, 2016, 08:18:47 PM »
Someone body better tell NBC they got their story wrong.  ::)

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/business/mcdonalds-pink-slime--138457219.html



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Re: Yay! McDoubles are back to a dollar each!
« Reply #256 on: January 11, 2016, 08:20:06 PM »
Someone body better tell NBC they got their story wrong.  ::)

http://usnews.guy-meat

What the hell kind of url is that?

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« Reply #257 on: January 11, 2016, 08:33:08 PM »
There's a 104 page thread on that. Every answer to any and all  questions on that subject has been addressed.

Now it's your turn: Why are you so fanatical with your hatred of McDonald's that you will tell blatant lies. Lies that are easily, and has been on this thread, proven to be lies?

Even more importantly why do you care that I go to McDonald's and why do you care what I eat? It can't possibly be because you care about my health and well being. So this is a complete mystery to me. Perhaps you can clear that up.

I was merely presenting a hypothetical.  You seem more than willing to grandstand with false moral authority in other instances.  Why are you dodging the questions now?  Evidently you only give your opinion when its not asked for.  You don't have a leg to stand on.  

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« Reply #258 on: January 11, 2016, 08:34:11 PM »
Someone body better tell NBC they got their story wrong.  ::)

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/business/mcdonalds-pink-slime--138457219.html




I just sent them an email about how their 4 year old article was incorrect.

Thanks!

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« Reply #259 on: January 11, 2016, 08:37:17 PM »
I just sent them an email about how their 4 year old article was incorrect.

Thanks!


Who cares how old it is. First you said they never used that in the beef now it's irreverent cause it's old news. ::) I don't care how old it is they were using that shit until they got busted. 

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« Reply #260 on: January 11, 2016, 08:41:21 PM »
Who cares how old it is. First you said they never used that in the beef now it's irreverent cause it's old news. ::) I don't care how old it is they were using that shit until they got busted.  
I didn't say it was because it was "old news".

I said I emailed them stating their article was incorrect and I thanked you for notifying me about their incorrect report.

You seem to be angry about something, but I'm not sure what is important enough to warrant your anger?

Are you angry at me or McDonald's? NBC for reporting incorrect information?

Why are you angry? Do you need to talk about it? I'm here to listen if you need to let it out. Semi-Homo.

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« Reply #261 on: January 11, 2016, 08:43:43 PM »
Who cares how old it is. First you said they never used that in the beef now it's irreverent cause it's old news. ::) I don't care how old it is they were using that shit until they got busted. 

Exactly.  And had they not gotten busted, there's little doubt the practice would have continued.    

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Re: Yay! McDoubles are back to a dollar each!
« Reply #262 on: January 11, 2016, 08:44:34 PM »
If you want to try again to pick a position on morality ie. for or against relativism that would clear things up. If morality is dependent on context it cannot be absolute. This is what will upset and confuse fine upstanding gentlemen like Al Doggity et al. It's amusing to see you contradict yourself so boldly. Thanks. That doesn't excuse your highly provocative claims. Considered tempering your sentiments. Maybe have a cup of tea prior to logging on tomorrow. 

I already picked a position on morality. Because you don't understand it and don't know the meaning of absolute versus moral relativism is more a problem with you than with me. But, if you are honest, and you are not, it is not my ideas and beliefs that matter to you. You simply have an issue with me personally even though our very first encounter was you contacting me to help you get back on the gh15 board from which you were banned. A favor which I granted to a complete stranger without even knowing the circumstance involved. And never ever a thanks or acknowledgement. Quite a reflection on your character. When anyone does a favor for me, no matter how small, I don't forget it.

I could claim 2+2=4 and even lay out 2 pairs of sticks and bring them together and count out the sticks and still you would not concur. Having to agree with me with far more distasteful to you than seeking truth. The fact that you claim that "there isn't a thread of evidence" that the US has ever done anything good in this world exposes your bias. Even when I point out the difference between South Korea and North Korea. There would be no South Korea if it wasn't for the US and all of Korea would be the hell hole that is North.

But I will further clarify moral absolutes and moral relativism, not for you, because it doesn't matter, but for others who perhaps have never thought of it in those terms, i.e., that it is the context that determines the moral nature of an act which is not relativism in the context of morality. And it's not because they are stupid or dumb like All Doggity but rather it is something that they didn't really give much though to.

Is killing another human being wrong and immoral? Well, I don't know. Killing in and of itself is morally neutral. It is the context that will determine it's morality. If done to protect innocent lives, such as when someone walks into a work place and starts randomly shooting and killing people, then yes. Killing that person is right and the moral thing to do. Absolutely moral. Not if someone intentionally kills an innocent person then that is wrong and immoral. Absolutely immoral. That is murder, and murder, a subset of killing, is immoral.

To equate the two is moral relativism. It's similar to a bumper sticker I saw years ago on a hand painted VW bus with a prominent peace sign on the back. The bumper sticker read: "Why do we kill people, who kill people, to teach people that killing is wrong?"

They think they are being clever and most people will be respond with a "Hey, that's a good point." But killing people is not always wrong, and equating the killing of a murderer with the killing of an innocent person is moral relativism. Saying that some sins in the same class are worse than others is not moral relativism. For example, stealing all the packets of Sweet and Low at a restaurant versus robbing a bank. Both are stealing but one is far worse than the other.

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« Reply #263 on: January 11, 2016, 08:45:38 PM »
Exactly.  And had they not gotten busted, there's little doubt the practice would have continued.    

It's all about money and always will be.

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« Reply #264 on: January 11, 2016, 08:46:49 PM »
I didn't say it was because it was "old news".

I said I emailed them stating their article was incorrect and I thanked you for notifying me about their incorrect report.

You seem to be angry about something, but I'm not sure what is important enough to warrant your anger?

Are you angry at me or McDonald's? NBC for reporting incorrect information?

Why are you angry? Do you need to talk about it? I'm here to listen if you need to let it out. Semi-Homo.

Once again your facts are wrong. Do a little more research before you act like you know what you are talking about.

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« Reply #265 on: January 11, 2016, 08:48:44 PM »
Once again your facts are wrong. Do a little more research before you act like you know what you are talking about.

Ok dude.

Whatever you say.

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« Reply #266 on: January 11, 2016, 08:53:04 PM »
I already picked a position on morality. Because you don't understand it and don't know the meaning of absolute versus moral relativism is more a problem with you than with me. But, if you are honest, and you are not, it is not my ideas and beliefs that matter to you. You simply have an issue with me personally even though our very first encounter was you contacting me to help you get back on the gh15 board from which you were banned. A favor which I granted to a complete stranger without even knowing the circumstance involved. And never ever a thanks or acknowledgement. Quite a reflection on your character. When anyone does a favor for me, no matter how small, I don't forget it.

I could claim 2+2=4 and even lay out 2 pairs of sticks and bring them together and count out the sticks and still you would not concur. Having to agree with me with far more distasteful to you than seeking truth. The fact that you claim that "there isn't a thread of evidence" that the US has ever done anything good in this world exposes your bias. Even when I point out the difference between South Korea and North Korea. There would be no South Korea if it wasn't for the US and all of Korea would be the hell hole that is North.

But I will further clarify moral absolutes and moral relativism, not for you, because it doesn't matter, but for others who perhaps have never thought of it in those terms, i.e., that it is the context that determines the moral nature of an act which is not relativism in the context of morality. And it's not because they are stupid or dumb like All Doggity but rather it is something that they didn't really give much though to.

Is killing another human being wrong and immoral? Well, I don't know. Killing in and of itself is morally neutral. It is the context that will determine it's morality. If done to protect innocent lives, such as when someone walks into a work place and starts randomly shooting and killing people, then yes. Killing that person is right and the moral thing to do. Absolutely moral. Not if someone intentionally kills an innocent person then that is wrong and immoral. Absolutely immoral. That is murder, and murder, a subset of killing, is immoral.

To equate the two is moral relativism. It's similar to a bumper sticker I saw years ago on a hand painted VW bus with a prominent peace sign on the back. The bumper sticker read: "Why do we kill people, who kill people, to teach people that killing is wrong?"

They think they are being clever and most people will be respond with a "Hey, that's a good point." But killing people is not always wrong, and equating the killing of a murderer with the killing of an innocent person is moral relativism. Saying that some sins in the same class are worse than others is not moral relativism. For example, stealing all the packets of Sweet and Low at a restaurant versus robbing a bank. Both are stealing but one is far worse than the other.

You don't have a leg to stand on to lecture anyone on morality.  When your own immorality gets exposed, you couldn't be more evasive.  You pretend to have morals and virtues that you do not possess.  You cloak your wrong doings under the guise of some sort of twisted justified "context", to absolve yourself.  

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Re: Yay! McDoubles are back to a dollar each!
« Reply #267 on: January 11, 2016, 09:03:35 PM »
It's all about money and always will be.

So true.  We know why McDonalds would do it, but why would there be those that would blindly defend them having done so?  Seems rather inexplicable. 

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« Reply #268 on: January 11, 2016, 09:11:14 PM »
Yeah, it was a pretty lame comeback. And your definition of "melting" is pretty broad. If anyone sounds like an unhinged loon in this thread it's you. And you also look like you are literally melting.


You can call me dumb all you like, but even  you know it's not true. I'm obviously a bright guy and that whole paragraph basically just amounts to the frustrated ramblings of an impotent keysmasher. But, ooh wait! You said I'm too dumb to realize how dumb I am. Guess the fact that some creepy, old perv I'm arguing with on the internet didn't convince me I'm stupid by calling me stupid proves that, right? ::)


And I didn't avoid any question. Just as you are entitled to gloss over whatever you see fit and respond to whatever you think is relevant, so am I. I corrected you when you misrepresented the guy who lost weight on a McDonald's diet and I also corrected you when you tried to conflate your very specific claim that "McDoubles are nutritious" with a broader "you can eat a nutritious diet at mcdonalds". If you need further clarification, if you define "nutritious" as food containing nutrients that will keep you from dying, then yes, McDoubles are nutritious. If you use the more common definition- promoting good health- then they are not. And it is as simple as that. If a parent  made McDoubles a regular, consistent part of their children's diet it would be detrimental to their health. It would put them at much greater risk of obesity and cardiovascular disease.



Also, this is a response to someone else, but it goes to a point I made earlier which, apparently, you are too smart to comprehend.




This only makes sense as a hard-and-fast rule when you are absurdly selective about what you consider moral behavior. You can find immoral behavior produced by any social system. You are just willing to gloss over what doesn't fit your agenda and highlight whatever suits it, which shows your complete lack of logic in the matter.



I saved you for last not because you are my favorite but because I want to spend less and less time with you as you truly are a stupid person and everything I say is beyond your realm of comprehension. You're like the kid who wants to participate in an economic discussion by asking, "Why don't we make all houses cost just a dollar?" "Ha, ha. Sure kid," as I pat you condescendingly on the head, "we'll get right to that. But just take a seat over there for a minute."

 In fact, that's what makes you somewhat interesting. How does someone, without a mental disease, which I don't think you have, get so stupid? I surmise that because your stupidy is so profound that you had to be taught to be stupid. You had to work and develop your stupidity. Such can often be accomplished by going to some Liberal, Leftist University. You're mention of "environmental footprints" and "predatory advertising" leads me to that speculation.

I was intending to address your issues but just at this very moment decided not to bother. Your statement, "I'm obviously a bright guy..." was just too gut busting. Like I said before, you are so stupid that you really don't know how stupid you really are and therefore there's no hope to escaping your stupidity on your own.

 But I will note that now you are changing your tune. First you make up your definition of nutritious as "promoting good health" as the common definition. No it's not. Where did you get that lame idea? I know, it's because you are stupid. Lets take the macro nutrient, carbohydrates. It's a nutrient by definition and therefore nutritious but it does not necessary follow that carbs per se promote good health. It may or may not. Depends how it is used or abused. Same with a vitamin, a micro nutrient. If you take too much this will not improve your health and is often detrimental. There was a recent study proving that too much fish oil can have detrimental effects.

And though you now agree, because I've forced you to by exposing your stupidity, that McDoubles have nutrition and that McDonald's is nutritious; you've now changed from not being able to maintain good health from eating at McDonalds to JUST eating McDoubles.

You lose again dummy.

Now try to get out of the claim that McDonald's, the number one most successful fast food chain in the country in 2014, beating out BK, Pizza Hut, Jack-in-the-Box, Carl's Jr, Papa Johns, Quiznos, KFC.... all fabulously successful chains in their own rights, is not run efficiently.

You might want to bow out of this thread gracefully and go be stupid somewhere else.


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Re: Yay! McDoubles are back to a dollar each!
« Reply #269 on: January 11, 2016, 09:24:11 PM »
Maybe the confusion stems from differing concepts of what is morally right and what constitutes success in a civilized world.

If I recall correctly you're an proponent of moral relativism? This would explain the incongruous reactions to your claims about capitalism and it's effects. You may want to clarify this.

Also, when someone raises a question about quantitative easing within the framework of a free market, you can't just gloss over it.

The highly respectable posters in this thread deserve answers on this and your other outrageous claims.



Pellius conveniently glosses over valid counter points.  He claims the existence of a true free market within which McDonalds operates, then completely avoids the fact that they (McDonalds) were allowed to illegally raise prices during price controls, while their competition was not.   He scoffs at the mere suggestion that the markets are anything but free, but has no concept of ZIRP or quantitative easing.  I won't even mention the Libor scandal, as it would confuse him all the more.  He tries and fails to punch above his weight class.  

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« Reply #270 on: January 11, 2016, 09:25:38 PM »
I was merely presenting a hypothetical.  You seem more than willing to grandstand with false moral authority in other instances.  Why are you dodging the questions now?  Evidently you only give your opinion when its not asked for.  You don't have a leg to stand on.  

No it wasn't "merely presenting a hypothetical:. Lying has become so ingrained in you that now it's just part of your naturel that I don't think you even know you're lying. Anybody familiar with the topic knows you just pulled it out of the thread I mentioned. And I certainly am not and did not avoid the question.  It has been addressed ad nauseam. In over a hundred pages. It went on so endlessly with me taking all comers and responding to comments that it had to closed. I am not going to rehash a now banned topic that has already been beaten to death.

Now, since my answer to your question has already been given in agonizing detail, why don't you answer my question? I'm sure I'm not the only one somewhat curious as to your rabid hatred for McDonald's and your fanatical concern for what other people eat that you'd be willing to tell provable lies.


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« Reply #271 on: January 11, 2016, 09:30:42 PM »
Pellius conveniently glosses over valid counter points.  He claims the existence of a true free market within which McDonalds operates, then completely avoids the fact that they (McDonalds) were allowed to illegally raise prices during price controls, while their competition was not.   He scoffs at the mere suggestion that the markets are anything but free, but has no concept of ZIRP or quantitative easing.  I won't even mentioned the Libor scandal, as it would confuse him all the more.  He tries and fails to punch above his weight class. 

Once again you lie. What is wrong with you. I specifically pointed out, and did so again when you lied about what I said, our market is not "totally free". There's obviously regulations. I acknowledge that.

You are a horrible person without a shred of honor and therefore not a man.

What a miserable life you must live obsessing over other people and how they live their lives.

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« Reply #272 on: January 11, 2016, 09:44:07 PM »
If flies avoid it then that's another plus in my book.

What a great country this is that we can produce a burger that contains 100% ground beef that never goes bad and flies, and hopefully other pests, avoid.

McDonalds could fill their "meat" with embalming fluid and you'd espouse the benefits.  Knowing McDonalds, they've already tried it.   

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« Reply #273 on: January 11, 2016, 09:56:17 PM »
McDonalds could fill their "meat" with embalming fluid and you'd espouse the benefits.  Knowing McDonalds, they've already tried it.   

And that bothers you why? Still avoiding that question because maybe you don't even know why you have this pathology?

Look at what I've done to you? And innocuous post as transformed someone I don't know, never noticed before, into a melting, hysterical, lunatic. How many youtube vids and links have you posted thus far in this thread? And presumably you have read and watched them all.

This is what I've turned your life into. A desperate little man spending countless hours scouring the net looking for views to discredit McDonald's so you can respond to me and my  buying of McDoubles.

This is just total ownage.