Highest effective dose of test

[equipoise]

AAS has diminishing returns as you increase the dose. What's the dose at which adding more test doesn't result in greater gains? I understand that it depends on genetics and whether you're using GH or not. I have not high dosed test myself so i'm curious.

[ritch]

seems for me 750mg is max. Tried a gram, even 1.2ish a good few months, saw very little change.

[gabriel]

AAS has diminishing returns as you increase the dose. What's the dose at which adding more test doesn't result in greater gains? I understand that it depends on genetics and whether you're using GH or not. I have not high dosed test myself so i'm curious.

Can't tell you man, guess it's different from people to people! I used as little as 300mg and saw a different, and each time I up the dose, magic happen, im at 1,4g right know and i feel amazing and the result are great.

Sure I just switch from UGL to homebrew, so nom im sure of the quality, but try some differnet dosage and see for yourself how your body react

[pestosterone]

Round 750 weekly is good for me as well much more and I start getting side effects tried more a few times but 750 is good

[Weedlejuice]

The most you can take without sides actively fucking you up.

[Qwert II]

The most you can take without sides actively fucking you up.

+1

There is no actual dose where you stop having gains. 3g will give you more gains than 1g etc

[harry123]

hi

for me 750mg is Maximum dose. i also have test 1500mg and 3000mg a week but no big changes.

greets
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[phreak]

Currently down to 250 mg/w only, but I was going to try 1g in a few months. Though frankly I did not notice a lot of difference between 500 and 750.

Addendum: I do notice that on only 250 mg/w I don't need an AI at all. On 500 mg/w 1 mg of arimidex every 2 weeks is enough, while on 750 mg/w I had to take 0.5 mg every other day or my nipples would hurt like a mofo. So perhaps I'm just too sensitive to test side effects.

[OTHstrong]

+1

There is no actual dose where you stop having gains. 3g will give you more gains than 1g etc

bingo

we have a winner

the more you take, the more you gain period, however from 2 grams to 4 grams,.. the net gains from doubling your test may only yield a 10% surplus, not worth it for most considering the sides will increase dramatically.

If you are a pro bodybuilder.... the rule of thumb is as much as possible as often as possible and any pro would gladly travel through hell for a marginal gain into new territory.

[oni]

To give a more absolute answer (the max dose you don't get sides with is correct)
I doubt anyone would notice any more than 3.5g, it's the largest dose I see

[OTHstrong]

To give a more absolute answer (the max dose you don't get sides with is correct)
I doubt anyone would notice any more than 3.5g, it's the largest dose I see

I have seen 7 grams before. pretty stupid I suppose

[Disco187]

Normally when i walk around at the gym and see other juicers i say to myself hmmmmm hes 1 gram, that cats only 250mg i can do this all by just a quick glance. j/k by the way


1 gram seams to give me the best look, two grams i just look to bloated to spilt. unless i simply am not getting my ai's down properly on two grams but i doubt it.

ester for me is makes a difference to , i dunno why and i thought it was all in my head but ive tried them all except suspension.

[spiro]

Anything over 750 I have to use a lot of masteron or AI. Test alone sucks ass though. Test masteron is bread and butter.

[Weedlejuice]

I have seen 7 grams before. pretty stupid I suppose

No wonder everyone thinks their shit is underdosed when you got pros telling people they do 500mg of test and the odd amp of deca for joint pain whenever they feel like it.

[Qwert II]

No wonder everyone thinks their shit is underdosed when you got pros telling people they do 500mg of test and the odd amp of deca for joint pain whenever they feel like it.

Dave Palumbo told me to my face in the late 90s that the most he ever used or knew any pro of using was 1000mg test & 300mg EQ or Deca & that anymore was useless.

[pestosterone]

Well he is a fucking liar, pros use more because the more you take the bigger you can get it really is dosage dependant on most people. The only thing I find with a low dosage of 3-400 mgs is u can make gains still but they r alot slower similar to the newbie gains but it eventually hit a wall if trying to gain size. On that dosage u can cut fine and retain muscle but u have to pay more attention to diet because when u hit that wall u r basically like a natty who's maxed out but u r artificially enhanced on 3-400 mgs. The biggest guys I know have taken alot and I mean alot at 3 gs test plus a g of orals and grams of either deca or eq and tren at 4-500mgs at times. These dudes arnt pro either.

[ritch]

Dave Palumbo told me to my face in the late 90s that the most he ever used or knew any pro of using was 1000mg test & 300mg EQ or Deca & that anymore was useless.

probably was talking about their cruise.
Dave also says more than like 6-8 units of slin is all pro's use.
What a dumb ass considering how smart he actually is in some senses.

[Qwert II]

probably was talking about their cruise.
Dave also says more than like 6-8 units of slin is all pro's use.
What a dumb ass considering how smart he actually is in some senses.

It's better to not say anything than to make up a lie that bad.

[Weedlejuice]

No wonder everyone thinks their shit is underdosed when you got pros telling people they do 500mg of test and the odd amp of deca for joint pain whenever they feel like it.

A trend i've noticed is bbers cant wait to tell you what theyre taking after theyre done competing and are basically on a maintaining dose while still holdig a fuck tonne of size like that whats keeping them there.

Its hard enough admitting to steroids for some, who the fuck wants to be "that guy" whos doing grams and grams

[herraisland]

Last time I trapped up to 2100mg of test and it was awesome.. not much sides other than little bit bloated, a lot acne, gyno and liver failure










Jk with the last 3 sides

[Qwert II]

Last time I trapped up to 2100mg of test and it was awesome.. not much sides other than little bit bloated, a lot acne, gyno and liver failure


Jk with the last 3 sides

When I've upped the dose, I do get more sides. But obviously as you up the dose, you have to up the ancillaries as well.

I just took more femera, took an extra dyazide tab a week & the sides went back to what they were before, but now I busted through that plateau.

[herraisland]

When I've upped the dose, I do get more sides. But obviously as you up the dose, you have to up the ancillaries as well.

I just took more femera, took an extra dyazide tab a week & the sides went back to what they were before, but now I busted through that plateau.

I would usually do that, this time I didn't... Im taking 1mg adex eod... This was the best test I have used for long time, but still I have had worse sites with lower test

I was using most in the blast
2100mg test
1800mg deca
700mg tren ace
50mg dbol
100mg anadrol
22iu slin pre
50mcg t3

It feels like I got immune to bad sides. I do sweat easily and always waking up 3-5times per night.

[Qwert II]

I would usually do that, this time I didn't... Im taking 1mg adex eod... This was the best test I have used for long time, but still I have had worse sites with lower test

I was using most in the blast
2100mg test
1800mg deca
700mg tren ace
50mg dbol
100mg anadrol
22iu slin pre
50mcg t3

It feels like I got immune to bad sides. I do sweat easily and always waking up 3-5times per night.

Wow!!!! That's quite a cycle. I never came close to that amount. I can definitely see the need for a lot more ancillaries with those dosages.

[OTHstrong]

No wonder everyone thinks their shit is underdosed when you got pros telling people they do 500mg of test and the odd amp of deca for joint pain whenever they feel like it.

lmao how they think people believe them is beyond me. All pros do the same things, it is no different then any other endeavor in life, the field follows the protocols in the game at an elite level identically. There is no such a thing as this pro does this but this pro does that BULLSHIT. Same shit always, test daily at 500mg minimum with 3-5 other compounds in addition suspension or TNE pre-workout with 200mg of orals and 20-40iu of slin and of course a hand full of stimulents. GH taken throughout the day. All short esters to mimic the seo effect in the muscle, we are talking 50 to 75 cc per week. ALL OF THEM

[Disco187]

I would usually do that, this time I didn't... Im taking 1mg adex eod... This was the best test I have used for long time, but still I have had worse sites with lower test

I was using most in the blast
2100mg test
1800mg deca
700mg tren ace
50mg dbol
100mg anadrol
22iu slin pre
50mcg t3

It feels like I got immune to bad sides. I do sweat easily and always waking up 3-5times per night.

      Thats what Im talking about with that cycle! and the waking up every hour or so fucking sucks. Only thing good about it is that i never seam to be late for work.