Who's watching WM on Sunday

[littleguns]

So I caved and got the network for the month seeing it was free. I am going to eat humble pie and watch some of it knowing this will probably be one of the worst WM's in history.

Anyone else watching?

The HHH vs Reigns is now a no DQ which means run ins or something.......

[Playboy]

So I caved and got the network for the month seeing it was free. I am going to eat humble pie and watch some of it knowing this will probably be one of the worst WM's in history.

Anyone else watching?

The HHH vs Reigns is now a no DQ which means run ins or something.......

A sad as it seems, not me. I would rather hit a bar with the boys and watch sports. I'll get the highlights later.

[leonp1981]

I'll be watching, I've got a load of computer work to catch up on so I'll stick it on while I'm working.  The no-DQ on HHH/Reigns paves the way for Rock I reckon.  If Vince is still ignoring everyone then Rock will help Reigns win the title to try and get him over again.  If anyone there has any sense though, Reigns will turn on Rock and go on a much-needed heel run.

The rest of the card is pretty lacklustre.  Brock/Ambrose could be a decent brawl and Shane/Taker is worth it for seeing how extreme Shane goes on his return to the ring.

[littleguns]

I'll be watching, I've got a load of computer work to catch up on so I'll stick it on while I'm working.  The no-DQ on HHH/Reigns paves the way for Rock I reckon.  If Vince is still ignoring everyone then Rock will help Reigns win the title to try and get him over again.  If anyone there has any sense though, Reigns will turn on Rock and go on a much-needed heel run.

The rest of the card is pretty lacklustre.  Brock/Ambrose could be a decent brawl and Shane/Taker is worth it for seeing how extreme Shane goes on his return to the ring.

Although Reigns turning on Rock would get him the much needed heel heat, when would Rock come back to avenge this? And would Reigns actually beat Rock in a match?

[Dave D]

Although Reigns turning on Rock would get him the much needed heel heat, when would Rock come back to avenge this? And would Reigns actually beat Rock in a match?

When wouldn't matter, they could do an old school build up like they did with Rock and Cena. He cuts a promo that ill be back by whatever date. Rock has also said repeatedly that he wants to work with Roman, and it seems like he's never had a problem putting others over.

[calfzilla]

I'll likely watch it since I have the wwe network. I'm honestly most excited about the divas match. I'm hoping Sasha wind the title and Snoop Dog gets involved somehow.

Biggest issue I have is why Bray Wyatt was left off the card? Either he is injured or is planning on a major run in on one of the matches. Or maybe WWE creative is really that dumb 


If I was booking wm32 I would have a double heel turn. Have Cena turn via run in on the Shane Taker match then have Roman turn. Maybe even have the two pair up as two top heels. This would work great because people already love to boo these guys.

[leonp1981]

I don't think Rock would necessarily need to have a match to avenge it, he can just disappear again.  Have him help Reigns win the title (or at least support him at ringside), they both celebrate in the ring and then Reigns turns on him.  The storyline being that all Roman ever cared about was the title and doesn't need anyone anymore.  He could turn his back on his family, etc. leaving a potential Rock match in his future.  In the short term you'd have an Ambrose rivalry ready and waiting, a Rollins face return as a second option, or see how he does as the bad guy in a Lesnar feud.

[MCWAY]

I'll likely watch it since I have the wwe network. I'm honestly most excited about the divas match. I'm hoping Sasha wind the title and Snoop Dog gets involved somehow.

Biggest issue I have is why Bray Wyatt was left off the card? Either he is injured or is planning on a major run in on one of the matches. Or maybe WWE creative is really that dumb 


If I was booking wm32 I would have a double heel turn. Have Cena turn via run in on the Shane Taker match then have Roman turn. Maybe even have the two pair up as two top heels. This would work great because people already love to boo these guys.

My guess is Wyatt is in the ATG Battle Royal. And if so, he's my pick to win it.

[calfzilla]

My guess is Wyatt is in the ATG Battle Royal. And if so, he's my pick to win it.

Well I guess we found out what Bray was going to do. Not a bad segment but certainly not great. I liked the part where Rock gave him props and the crowd popped.

[littleguns]

Well I guess we found out what Bray was going to do. Not a bad segment but certainly not great. I liked the part where Rock gave him props and the crowd popped.

The whole Rock thing was kind of corny, blow torch gun really?! I saw he had his wrestling shoes on and knew something was going to happen. If they were smart...Rock and Bray verbally going at it and he says something like " I knew you jabronies would be here so I brought back up and out comes Gallows and Anderson or perhaps 2 people from NXT.....

[Playboy]

The whole Rock thing was kind of corny, blow torch gun really?! I saw he had his wrestling shoes on and knew something was going to happen. If they were smart...Rock and Bray verbally going at it and he says something like " I knew you jabronies would be here so I brought back up and out comes Gallows and Anderson or perhaps 2 people from NXT.....

The whole show was corny lol....aside from Shane's leap of death from the top of the cell...

[MCWAY]

Well I guess we found out what Bray was going to do. Not a bad segment but certainly not great. I liked the part where Rock gave him props and the crowd popped.

But, the bigger pop came with Cena's surprise appearance. He and Rock have apparently buried the hatchet (according to Rock himself on SportsCenter).

[MCWAY]

I don't think Rock would necessarily need to have a match to avenge it, he can just disappear again.  Have him help Reigns win the title (or at least support him at ringside), they both celebrate in the ring and then Reigns turns on him.  The storyline being that all Roman ever cared about was the title and doesn't need anyone anymore.  He could turn his back on his family, etc. leaving a potential Rock match in his future.  In the short term you'd have an Ambrose rivalry ready and waiting, a Rollins face return as a second option, or see how he does as the bad guy in a Lesnar feud.

Ambrose and Reigns have been fighting each others as babyfaces, even still calling each other "brothers". They fought in the finals of the WWE world title tournament at Survivor Series and beat each other silly, after disposing of Lesnar, at Fastlane.

So, I don't see much more you can do with that. Rollins needs to stay heel; WWE needs main-event heels badly. They can't even keep New Day as heels.

[calfzilla]

But, the bigger pop came with Cena's surprise appearance. He and Rock have apparently buried the hatchet (according to Rock himself on SportsCenter).

Never knew they had heat.

[leonp1981]

So, I don't see much more you can do with that. Rollins needs to stay heel; WWE needs main-event heels badly. They can't even keep New Day as heels.

You can do all sorts when it's a proper feud as opposed to a 'brotherly' contest.  Ambrose claims he sold out, Reigns says Ambrose will never be a champion, off they go.  They've got the chemistry already so all they need is a believable motive.

Unless they pitch it absolutely perfectly, I can't see Rollins coming back as anything other than a face.  With the amount of heat that Reigns is continuing to get, all of the fans will jump on Rollins when he returns. 

They are struggling wiith heels though, mainly as whatever they do with some of them, people cheer them anyway.  Owens is a fantastic bad guy, as is Bray, but those two have got almost a 'cult' following who will cheer them and blur that line.  HHH could have continued as the main heel on the roster, but he put himself in a feud against Reigns and ended up as the good guy again.  So, bad booking is to blame for most of it.

[Playboy]

You can do all sorts when it's a proper feud as opposed to a 'brotherly' contest.  Ambrose claims he sold out, Reigns says Ambrose will never be a champion, off they go.  They've got the chemistry already so all they need is a believable motive.

Unless they pitch it absolutely perfectly, I can't see Rollins coming back as anything other than a face.  With the amount of heat that Reigns is continuing to get, all of the fans will jump on Rollins when he returns. 

They are struggling wiith heels though, mainly as whatever they do with some of them, people cheer them anyway.  Owens is a fantastic bad guy, as is Bray, but those two have got almost a 'cult' following who will cheer them and blur that line.  HHH could have continued as the main heel on the roster, but he put himself in a feud against Reigns and ended up as the good guy again.  So, bad booking is to blame for most of it.

Nice post and I totally agree. The booking really needs to improve here. You never want to go against the grain in wrestling. If Ambrose and Reigns feud, one of them needs to turn heel and in a really big way so that they are so damn hated by the crowd whilst the face is loved. This "brotherly love" contest of who is better is cheesy and takes away from a potentially great fued.

[leonp1981]

A Reigns turn now would be the easiest thing in the world to pull off as well.  He's already hated by the 18+ fans and getting the kids against him is easy.  Just get him to turn on whatever fans he's got, tell them he's sick of them booing him no matter what he does, so screw the lot of you.  Make him into the basic weasel champion who isn't going to give up his title or have a fair fight.

Ambrose has got the momentum behind him to take that feud to another level.  A returning Rollins adds to the mix and forces Reigns to cower away from two opponents.  Reigns could even hire J+J Security as an extra way of getting him over as a heel and also building a Rollins rivalry.

[calfzilla]

A Reigns turn now would be the easiest thing in the world to pull off as well.  He's already hated by the 18+ fans and getting the kids against him is easy.  Just get him to turn on whatever fans he's got, tell them he's sick of them booing him no matter what he does, so screw the lot of you.  Make him into the basic weasel champion who isn't going to give up his title or have a fair fight.

Ambrose has got the momentum behind him to take that feud to another level.  A returning Rollins adds to the mix and forces Reigns to cower away from two opponents.  Reigns could even hire J+J Security as an extra way of getting him over as a heel and also building a Rollins rivalry.

Great ideas. If I were in charge I would no question turn Reigns heel and Rollins face. And turn Cena heel also and push Ambrose on the track he is on. Then start doing some good shit with Bray Wyatt before his character get gets old.

[MCWAY]

You can do all sorts when it's a proper feud as opposed to a 'brotherly' contest.  Ambrose claims he sold out, Reigns says Ambrose will never be a champion, off they go.  They've got the chemistry already so all they need is a believable motive.

Unless they pitch it absolutely perfectly, I can't see Rollins coming back as anything other than a face.  With the amount of heat that Reigns is continuing to get, all of the fans will jump on Rollins when he returns.  

They are struggling wiith heels though, mainly as whatever they do with some of them, people cheer them anyway.  Owens is a fantastic bad guy, as is Bray, but those two have got almost a 'cult' following who will cheer them and blur that line.  HHH could have continued as the main heel on the roster, but he put himself in a feud against Reigns and ended up as the good guy again.  So, bad booking is to blame for most of it.

How can Reigns be a sellout when he won the belt three times without the Authority's help?

Let Rollins cost a guy like AJ Styles the title and his heel status is back in full effect.

Why is it that when heels get injured they return as babyfaces? That happened to Helmsley twice. It even happened with Rock (sort of). The fans hated him as a babyfaces; he got hurt after losing the IC title. The fans cheered his return, until he hit Chainz with a Rock-Bottom, helping Faarooq get the win. After the match, Rocky raised up the fist to officially join the Nation of Domination.

[MCWAY]

A sad as it seems, not me. I would rather hit a bar with the boys and watch sports. I'll get the highlights later.

Don't those bars also show WrestleMania? I've gone to sports bars (I.e. Buffalo Wild Wings) and see WWE PPVs. If I remember correctly a WWE PPV was on my birthday and my family took me to one to watch it. It might have been the Bash (formerly the Great American Bash). We missed a couple of matches;
I caught the end of an IC title match between Wade Barrett and Ezekiel Jackson.

[leonp1981]

How can Reigns be a sellout when he won the belt three times without the Authority's help?

Depends on whether you want logic or not!  Generally WWE doesn't, so... He could claim that he was going to quit but winning the title at WM meant he got a big payday, he could turn on the fans in general telling them that he achieved his dream while they never will, he could tell them that WWE is simply a stepping stone to Hollywood, ala Rock.  (Might not be doing Rock any favours though!)

I think the injured come back as faces as their layoff has caused the fans to miss them, it's an 'absence makes the heart grow fonder' thing.  People are easily excited these days, so the buzz from seeing someone return after an injury gets you over instantly.  It's harder work to bring them back as a bad guy, so why make things more difficult?  HHH, Cena at the Rumble, it always happens that way.  As you say, the only way you can bring them back heel is to really screw over a fan favourite, which needs a solid build leading upto it.

[Playboy]

A Reigns turn now would be the easiest thing in the world to pull off as well.  He's already hated by the 18+ fans and getting the kids against him is easy.  Just get him to turn on whatever fans he's got, tell them he's sick of them booing him no matter what he does, so screw the lot of you.  Make him into the basic weasel champion who isn't going to give up his title or have a fair fight.

Ambrose has got the momentum behind him to take that feud to another level.  A returning Rollins adds to the mix and forces Reigns to cower away from two opponents.  Reigns could even hire J+J Security as an extra way of getting him over as a heel and also building a Rollins rivalry.

I agree with the Reigns heel thing. It would be perfect right now. He's already getting booed gallore. I say do it and when Rollins comes back make him face and you have your main event for SS IF its built up correctly.

[MCWAY]

I agree with the Reigns heel thing. It would be perfect right now. He's already getting booed gallore. I say do it and when Rollins comes back make him face and you have your main event for SS IF its built up correctly.

Rollins makes a far better heel than Reigns does. Rollins can make the argument that, had he not been injured, he'd still be champion and Reigns would have never tasted the world title in the first place. Make the case that Reigns defeated a weakened Authority. You could even have Rollins win MITB again.

[calfzilla]

Rollins make a far better heel than Reigns does. Rollins can make the argument that, had he not been injured, he'd still be champion and Reigns would have never tasted the world title in the first place. Make the case that Reigns defeated a weakened Authority. You could even have Rollins win MITB again.

I respectfully disagree with you. Rollins is a terrible heel. He sucks on the mic so he can't get heat that way. He is amazing in the ring with a lot of athletic moves that wow the audience; traditionally a face trait.

[MCWAY]

I respectfully disagree with you. Rollins is a terrible heel. He sucks on the mic so he can't get heat that way. He is amazing in the ring with a lot of athletic moves that wow the audience; traditionally a face trait.

But, you still have that lingering effect from 2014 that Rollins stabbed Reigns and Ambrose in the back. Ambrose and Rollins got to dance together in a program with the world title at stake. But, Rollins and Reigns never got that going due to Rollins' knee injury.

The easiest way to put Rollins back in the top spot is to have him win MITB again and have him cash it on Reigns. That could, per your scenario, lead to a Reigns heel turn (having been victimized twice by cash-ins).

Rollins got heat by being a whiny little punk, who even got on Helmsley's nerves.