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Re: Trump wins the Republican nomination, Cruz drops out, it's over!
« Reply #150 on: May 07, 2016, 08:34:49 PM »
Who cares?  He's already done more than any of the rest by getting a vote of the American people on the issue of immigration, which he is a proxy for.  No one would even be talking about it now without him.  They'd have all swept it under the rug.  That alone gets my vote.  All the rest of antiPC stuff and candid talk is just gravy.

But his solution for it would be impossible to implement.

During his Prez run, Trump claimed that there are between 30 and 34 MILLION illegal aliens in the USA.
http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2015/jul/28/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-number-illegal-immigrants-30-mil/

This past wednesday, he reminded Lester Holt that YES, he still plans to DEPORT all of the illegal aliens.

We are a nation of 318 million people.  Trump promises to kick out about 10% of them.  TEN PERCENT.  How does this happen?  Where do they go?  What are the results?  

Yes, 44% or so of republican base voters like Trump.   A majority of repubs do not.  He says he's kicking out 10% of the US population - again, his words, and numbers, not mine.   He's either lying about it, or he's not realized what it entails, nor have his supporters.  How many people does it take to remove 34 million people?  

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Re: Trump wins the Republican nomination, Cruz drops out, it's over!
« Reply #151 on: May 07, 2016, 08:38:07 PM »
Who cares that he inherited money from his father?

The person on getbig who said Trump "came up from some nobody".   I disagreed with his claim. 

I never said anything about any govt taking any inheritance from anyone.  I applaud Trump's success.  But I don't claim he "came up from nobody".

The day Trump was born, his family was already developing thousands of residential and military housing units, all over NY and elsewhere, was a supermarket success, was already being investigated by the govt. 

Trump was wealthy and already a nation name the day he was born.  Cool, I don't hate on that.

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Re: Trump wins the Republican nomination, Cruz drops out, it's over!
« Reply #152 on: May 07, 2016, 08:41:39 PM »
The person on getbig who said Trump "came up from some nobody".   I disagreed with his claim. 

I never said anything about any govt taking any inheritance from anyone.  I applaud Trump's success.  But I don't claim he "came up from nobody".

The day Trump was born, his family was already developing thousands of residential and military housing units, all over NY and elsewhere, was a supermarket success, was already being investigated by the govt. 

Trump was wealthy and already a nation name the day he was born.  Cool, I don't hate on that.

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Re: Trump wins the Republican nomination, Cruz drops out, it's over!
« Reply #153 on: May 07, 2016, 08:44:42 PM »
The person on getbig who said Trump "came up from some nobody".   I disagreed with his claim. 

I never said anything about any govt taking any inheritance from anyone.  I applaud Trump's success.  But I don't claim he "came up from nobody".

The day Trump was born, his family was already developing thousands of residential and military housing units, all over NY and elsewhere, was a supermarket success, was already being investigated by the govt. 

Trump was wealthy and already a nation name the day he was born.  Cool, I don't hate on that.
He did come up from being a nobody, no matter how much his father gave him, he's turned those measly millions into billions. Nobody knew who Donald Trump was when he was born, knock it off.
How many people do Trumps business's employ?
How many people do Hillarys business's employ? What has Hillary done for this country?
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Re: Trump wins the Republican nomination, Cruz drops out, it's over!
« Reply #154 on: May 07, 2016, 08:54:04 PM »
"Hard working Americans" = you don't know hard work.  Talk to someone who makes over $250,000 per year and is self employed.  They all dwarf the average worker in effort & aspiration.  We don't live for the weekend nor count the clock.

"Too much taxes" = Only poor people complain about taxes.  That's the plain truth.  Ask yourself, why do the wealthy not only pay the lions share of taxes but also give away a HUGE portion of their wealth to charity on top?  Pro Tip:  It's not for the tax breaks.

What I'm getting at here is the average Joe "Pro Trump" voter has literally nothing to do with Trump.  Trump knows this.  They don't.  He's laughing all the way to the winners circle.  And it makes me fucking sick how stupid my country has become.  THAT is the America I want to take back!  YOU are the problem, fuckers!

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Re: Trump wins the Republican nomination, Cruz drops out, it's over!
« Reply #155 on: May 07, 2016, 09:02:59 PM »
But his solution for it would be impossible to implement.

During his Prez run, Trump claimed that there are between 30 and 34 MILLION illegal aliens in the USA.
http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2015/jul/28/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-number-illegal-immigrants-30-mil/

This past wednesday, he reminded Lester Holt that YES, he still plans to DEPORT all of the illegal aliens.

We are a nation of 318 million people.  Trump promises to kick out about 10% of them.  TEN PERCENT.  How does this happen?  Where do they go?  What are the results?  

Yes, 44% or so of republican base voters like Trump.   A majority of repubs do not.  He says he's kicking out 10% of the US population - again, his words, and numbers, not mine.   He's either lying about it, or he's not realized what it entails, nor have his supporters.  How many people does it take to remove 34 million people?  

He has a higher percentage of Primary Rs and total number of votes than Ronney last time.

Also even if he doesn't succeed in deporting all illegals, simply making that the goal to aspire to gets you a hell of a lot farther than any of the rest.  Hillary and every D wants to bring in more and more, many Chamber of Commerce or milquetoast Rs also would do the same.

Let me put it in terms you may understand.  If you set a goal to bench 500 pounds, maybe you'll make it, maybe not, but I bet you get farther with that goal and closer to benching 500 pounds than someone who just wants to bench 135.  Trump is at least setting the goal, and he's the only one willing to say it or say anything close to what the people actually want to happen.  So we get an election to decide this issue.  Fine, I'll take it.  Because every time this issue comes to a vote the anti-open borders crowd wins.

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Re: Trump wins the Republican nomination, Cruz drops out, it's over!
« Reply #156 on: May 07, 2016, 09:05:42 PM »
Let me put it in terms you may understand.  If you set a goal to bench 500 pounds, maybe you'll make it, maybe not, but I bet you get farther with that goal and closer to benching 500 pounds than someone who just wants to bench 135.  Trump is at least setting the goal, and he's the only one willing to say it or say anything close to what the people actually want to happen.  So we get an election to decide this issue.  Fine, I'll take it.  Because every time this issue comes to a vote the anti-open borders crowd wins.

But what he's promising is a 1200 pound bench press to everyone.   "I'll deport 34 million people" is delusional and/or dishonest. 

Yes, it's great to show people are supporting it... but they're supporting an impossible claim.   Yes, nearly 100% of male gymgoers would support a secret circuit workout that would make them 230 pounds at 2% body fat with Fabio-like locks of hair.  But a personal trainer promising that would be a lying douche for doing so.

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Re: Trump wins the Republican nomination, Cruz drops out, it's over!
« Reply #157 on: May 07, 2016, 09:09:12 PM »
What I'm getting at here is the average Joe "Pro Trump" voter has literally nothing to do with Trump.  Trump knows this.  They don't.  He's laughing all the way to the winners circle.  And it makes me fucking sick how stupid my country has become.  THAT is the America I want to take back!  YOU are the problem, fuckers!

Trump has completely reversed this week on raising the min wage AND taxing the wealthy.   Outright pandering to the liberals now.

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Re: Trump wins the Republican nomination, Cruz drops out, it's over!
« Reply #158 on: May 07, 2016, 09:12:30 PM »
Trump has completely reversed this week on raising the min wage AND taxing the wealthy.   Outright pandering to the liberals now.

I'm glad, 240.  I really hope you are right about Trump throwing the election.  Otherwise, he'll win.

As a minority, I have to live with these neanderthal idiot sheep.  I'm seriously considering relocating to a more diverse area if Trump is victorious.  SoCal, Seattle or Toronto (temp obviously) are on my radar of ideas.

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Re: Trump wins the Republican nomination, Cruz drops out, it's over!
« Reply #159 on: May 07, 2016, 09:20:21 PM »
I'm glad, 240.  I really hope you are right about Trump throwing the election.

I've posted it on getbig since 2011.  I called Trump a dem plant then.  I think Trump trivilaized the very legitimate birther issue for obama in 2012. 

Kept asking "where's the birth certificate" then was the butt of the joke just in time for the Correspondent's Dinner, then quietly slinked away, obama's legitimacy intact and proven. 

His legacy is that he gave the POTUS job to a very polarizing, outright liar in Hilary.  If he makes HIMSELF a walking contradictory joke, it won't matter what he says about Hilary... she will easily win, as the only grownup in the race.

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Re: Trump wins the Republican nomination, Cruz drops out, it's over!
« Reply #160 on: May 07, 2016, 09:21:24 PM »
Trump has completely reversed this week on raising the min wage AND taxing the wealthy.   Outright pandering to the liberals now.
Every single politician does about faces, constantly.  What is your point?
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Re: Trump wins the Republican nomination, Cruz drops out, it's over!
« Reply #161 on: May 07, 2016, 09:26:17 PM »
Every single politician does about faces, constantly.  What is your point?

We're talking about MAJOR policy issues.   

he said months ago that the min wage was actually TOO HIGH.   After all, raising the min wage to $15 will CRUSH small business.  But this week, he said he would consider Bernie's $15 number.  That's a monster change that really scares many people.

he said months ago, and on his website, that he would cut the tax rate down to 15% for the most wealthy.  Then he said this week he plans on RAISING the tax rate for the most wealthy.  Um, that's a little more than pandering, that's spitting in the face of the promises to the people that supported him.

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« Reply #162 on: May 07, 2016, 09:56:39 PM »
We're talking about MAJOR policy issues.   

he said months ago that the min wage was actually TOO HIGH.   After all, raising the min wage to $15 will CRUSH small business.  But this week, he said he would consider Bernie's $15 number.  That's a monster change that really scares many people.

he said months ago, and on his website, that he would cut the tax rate down to 15% for the most wealthy.  Then he said this week he plans on RAISING the tax rate for the most wealthy.  Um, that's a little more than pandering, that's spitting in the face of the promises to the people that supported him.

You never talk policy. What's YOUR point?

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Re: Trump wins the Republican nomination, Cruz drops out, it's over!
« Reply #163 on: May 07, 2016, 10:30:06 PM »
Every single politician does about faces, constantly.  What is your point?

With this current media environment and going against 16 competitors it is simply a reality of the process.

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Re: Trump wins the Republican nomination, Cruz drops out, it's over!
« Reply #164 on: May 07, 2016, 10:45:42 PM »
You never talk policy. What's YOUR point?

I talk policy all the time.   I listen to Beck, Rush, hannity, and my favorite, Levin.  We can talk policy anytime!  Trump's policies are ALL OVER THE PLACE.  This week, he shit all over small businesses with the min wage thing, and shit all over the wealthy by saying instead of cutting their taxes by almost half, HE IS GOING TO RAISE THEM!

Even HILARY isn't promising the sanders min wage and insane punishing tax hikes.  He's trying to get bernie voters BY ADOPTING BERNIE'S POSITIONS!!

at this point, he's as scary as bernie... policy-wise...

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« Reply #165 on: May 08, 2016, 07:54:57 AM »
I've posted it on getbig since 2011.  I called Trump a dem plant then.  I think Trump trivilaized the very legitimate birther issue for obama in 2012. 

Kept asking "where's the birth certificate" then was the butt of the joke just in time for the Correspondent's Dinner, then quietly slinked away, obama's legitimacy intact and proven. 

His legacy is that he gave the POTUS job to a very polarizing, outright liar in Hilary.  If he makes HIMSELF a walking contradictory joke, it won't matter what he says about Hilary... she will easily win, as the only grownup in the race.

Democrat plant?  That has been debunked a thousand different ways. It's silly wishful thinking based on your cognitive bias not being able to deal with objective reality showing you are constantly wrong.  Great plan, run a guy as a plant who makes you look terrible and who has huge popular support.

Open borders types love to claim deporting anyone would be impossible the equivalent of a 1200 pound bench press.  How about we start with a million or two and see what happens.  He's the only one that wants this.  And it will get him elected.  Hillary is the worst and most vulnerable D candidate in recent memory.  She has a sitting Persident and a former president on her side, who are both LIABILITIES.

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Re: Trump wins the Republican nomination, Cruz drops out, it's over!
« Reply #166 on: May 08, 2016, 08:53:00 AM »
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Re: Trump wins the Republican nomination, Cruz drops out, it's over!
« Reply #167 on: May 08, 2016, 08:54:03 AM »
How about we start with a million or two and see what happens.  

that's not what trump said.  he said there are 30 to 34 million illegals, and that they'll all be deported.

There is no "start with a million" from Trump, he's never said that.  

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Re: Trump wins the Republican nomination, Cruz drops out, it's over!
« Reply #168 on: May 08, 2016, 09:02:35 AM »
Hillary is the worst and most vulnerable D candidate in recent memory.  She has a sitting Persident and a former president on her side, who are both LIABILITIES.
Not to mention she's a murdering cunt that has been under investigation for several different crimes for several years.
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« Reply #169 on: May 08, 2016, 09:11:37 AM »
that's not what trump said.  he said there are 30 to 34 million illegals, and that they'll all be deported.

There is no "start with a million" from Trump, he's never said that.  

Try sneaking into Mexico and get back to me.  Actually, you won't have to "get back to me" as one of two things will occur.  Either you'll be thrown into a hell hole of a jail or you will be immediately  deported.  No...Wait!  There's always the possibility of your being kidnapped and held for ransom to be paid by your family.  

What part about illegal don't you understand?  You do understand but you don't give a fook.  We (i.e. Americans) want a president that isn't PC, isn't a fooktard, doesn't use his "presidential privilege" (read: "Executive Order") to get his pussified fooking way.  If Trump falls back on his promises he will be called to task and that by those that elected him and without the pussy matter of skin color or gender to protect his lying ass.

So then, either man up, fook off or get the hell out of the way.  Americans want our country back.  Those of you that seem to want a cuntry can look to Europe and (once)Great Britain for what awaits you.   If you are for making America for Americans again, then by all means quite positing this fecal matter and put American first by casting out the old guard of both parties.

Quit playing the libtard's advocate.  Unless of course, that is what you think is best.  Personally, I can't stand that stuff. 

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« Reply #170 on: May 08, 2016, 09:30:51 AM »
Not to mention she's a murdering cunt that has been under investigation for several different crimes for several years.
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« Reply #171 on: May 08, 2016, 10:00:14 AM »
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The CLINTONS had many, many people killed in their time... scroll down the list I was shocked!!

http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/BODIES.php#axzz47nYYMyTg


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Re: Trump wins the Republican nomination, Cruz drops out, it's over!
« Reply #172 on: May 08, 2016, 11:31:07 AM »
he said months ago that the min wage was actually TOO HIGH.   After all, raising the min wage to $15 will CRUSH small business.  But this week, he said he would consider Bernie's $15 number.  That's a monster change that really scares many people.

He never said that.  You gotta stop twisting the truth.

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Re: Trump wins the Republican nomination, Cruz drops out, it's over!
« Reply #173 on: May 08, 2016, 11:33:40 AM »
He never said that.  You gotta stop twisting the truth.


Sorry, Trump doesnt get to say "I might go looking at that, I'm very different from most republicans". 

Imagine a repub saying "I'm very different from most repubs, I might support legalizing abortion for everyone"
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"I'm very different from other repubs, I might be open to gun bans".   People would be SHITTING.

Trump said previously this year that the min wage was TOO HIGH.   He's completely opposite there.   I don't get why you defend this guy - he's a damn flake.  All over the map.   He's a democrat that tricked angry republicans (44% of them?) into choosing him.

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« Reply #174 on: May 08, 2016, 11:46:07 AM »
Sorry, Trump doesnt get to say "I might go looking at that, I'm very different from most republicans". 

Imagine a repub saying "I'm very different from most repubs, I might support legalizing abortion for everyone"
or
"I'm very different from other repubs, I might be open to gun bans".   People would be SHITTING.

Trump said previously this year that the min wage was TOO HIGH.   He's completely opposite there.   I don't get why you defend this guy - he's a damn flake.  All over the map.   He's a democrat that tricked angry republicans (44% of them?) into choosing him.

 
He's trying to show he's different then the establishment.  He in no way says he's considering Bernie's $15 min wage.  He says, "if you start playing around too much with the lower level number(min wage), you're not going to be competitive."  His stance is going to be, we're bringing good paying jobs back, we're not going to need to bring the min wage to $15.  Stop trying to scare people.  I'm not even crazy about the guy, but you keep twisting the truth.