Trump wins the Republican nomination, Cruz drops out, it's over!

[SaintAnger]

"As a minority"... *BARF*   "I'm seriously considering relocating to a more diverse area if Trump is victorious."  *Double BARF*

How pitiful.  How pathetic.  How typically libtard.  Please stay the fook out of SoCal and just move all the way to Canada.  If you really are serious then so am I.   And don't forget to take anyone that agrees with you. 

Should Trump win, you won't be going anywhere.  Somebody call the Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahmb ulance.  Did you parents have any children they were proud to call their own?

Just trying to protect my family.

[The Scott]

Just trying to protect my family.

I seriously doubt you and your family have anything to fear from normal people, regardless of their skin color and I have no doubt that most of the world is perfectly normal.  Do as you desire and blame it on whatever milks your mammaries.   

That said, take off hoser.  Later, eh?

[Hulkotron]

"It's the Republican Party, not the Conservative Party."

Great quote by Mighty Trump today.

[240 is Back]

"It's the Republican Party, not the Conservative Party."

Great quote by Mighty Trump today.

Hilary chose her own opponent.   He's a joke to democrats, and the republican base is growing to HATE trump.   Hilary wins election.  Smart.


Whom does the country have to blame for Donald Trump’s ascendancy in American politics? The Republican Party, for cultivating conservative populism to score short-term victories against Barack Obama? The media, for covering Trump’s every utterance at the expense of all other candidates? Celebrity culture, for thrusting him into the public consciousness? Capitalism, for making him rich? Tall buildings, of which Trump has many?

Wrong, says The Washington Post, which revealed the supposed truth on Wednesday: it was former president and candidate spouse Bill Clinton all along.

According to several Trump sources (and one Clinton source) who spoke to the Post, the two men spoke over the phone in late May, shortly before Trump announced his run in June. During the call, the Trump sources said, Clinton “encouraged Trump’s efforts to play a larger role in the Republican Party” and “analyzed Trump’s prospects and his desire to rouse the G.O.P. base.”

That conversation, said the anonymous Trump sources, certainly didn’t discourage the billionaire to run: while Clinton never outright told Trump to enter the race, he reportedly told Trump that he was “striking a chord with frustrated conservatives and was a rising force on the right,” and his tone was supposedly “encouraging.”

(This is something a political genius would tell someone with a desire to run for president, especially if that person was a known self-promoter, capable of sucking the air out of a room full of his opponents—and especially if the genius’s wife happened to be running in the party against that known self-promoter.)

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/08/bill-clinton-called-donald-trump-before-presidential-run-2016

[Never1AShow]

No, I'm realistic.

I really don't care if they stay or go. These are the people painting your house cheap. Picking the lettuce. Washing the dishes at the restaurants you go to.

I don't think you really understand what a huge economic undertaking it is, or how they actually and factually give more to the US economically than they take.

You have some very small minded and incorrect idea that they "take your jobs", but they don't. They take the jobs that you wouldn't dare do, and they do them pretty cheap which is why you can afford certain things.

The mere fact that you believe the propaganda about them being a net plus economically is all I need to know about your experience in this world.

[Never1AShow]

Hilary chose her own opponent.   He's a joke to democrats, and the republican base is growing to HATE trump.   Hilary wins election.  Smart.


Whom does the country have to blame for Donald Trump’s ascendancy in American politics? The Republican Party, for cultivating conservative populism to score short-term victories against Barack Obama? The media, for covering Trump’s every utterance at the expense of all other candidates? Celebrity culture, for thrusting him into the public consciousness? Capitalism, for making him rich? Tall buildings, of which Trump has many?

Wrong, says The Washington Post, which revealed the supposed truth on Wednesday: it was former president and candidate spouse Bill Clinton all along.

According to several Trump sources (and one Clinton source) who spoke to the Post, the two men spoke over the phone in late May, shortly before Trump announced his run in June. During the call, the Trump sources said, Clinton “encouraged Trump’s efforts to play a larger role in the Republican Party” and “analyzed Trump’s prospects and his desire to rouse the G.O.P. base.”

That conversation, said the anonymous Trump sources, certainly didn’t discourage the billionaire to run: while Clinton never outright told Trump to enter the race, he reportedly told Trump that he was “striking a chord with frustrated conservatives and was a rising force on the right,” and his tone was supposedly “encouraging.”

(This is something a political genius would tell someone with a desire to run for president, especially if that person was a known self-promoter, capable of sucking the air out of a room full of his opponents—and especially if the genius’s wife happened to be running in the party against that known self-promoter.)

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/08/bill-clinton-called-donald-trump-before-presidential-run-2016

An article from a year ago showing Bubba done fucked up good.  Your posts reek of fear from a Hillary shill.

[TuHolmes]

The mere fact that you believe the propaganda about them being a net plus economically is all I need to know about your experience in this world.

The fact you don't understand the world around you shows that you are the one without any experience.

I see it EVERY. SINGLE. DAY.

My experience is without a doubt far more extensive than yours. Feel free to prove me wrong.

[240 is Back]

An article from a year ago showing Bubba done fucked up good.  Your posts reek of fear from a Hillary shill.

oh i hate hilary.   but i think trump is a dem liberal just like her.

[240 is Back]

Donald Trump just made a new mess while walking back his controversial plan for US debt



Donald Trump on Monday said it was "crazy" to think he would try to negotiate his way out of full repayment of government bonds — despite what he suggested last week — but he did suggest another potentially alarming option for debt management.

"First of all, you never have to default because you print the money," the presumptive Republican presidential nominee said on CNN.

This is true, but as with trying to get bondholders to take a haircut, it's out of the economic mainstream.

Last Thursday, Trump suggested on CNBC that he would be able to reduce the national debt by persuading creditors to accept a "haircut" on that debt, in which case creditors would be repaid less than the face value of US Treasury bills and bonds. For example, a Trump administration might repay $80 of a $100 bond to the bond's holder.

"I've borrowed knowing that you can pay back with discounts," he said. "I would borrow knowing that if the economy crashed, you could make a deal."

Such a proposal, implying that the US would not fully pay back its debts, was immediately condemned in the finance world.

US government debt is widely viewed as one of the safest available investments. So the idea of investors' receiving less than they were promised by the most powerful government in the world would almost certainly dramatically increase interest rates in the US and would very likely set off a global recession, experts said.

In a Monday interview on CNN's "New Day," as Trump attempted to clarify his plans for the national debt, he said the US would never default on its obligations because it printed money (emphasis added):

If interest rates go up, and we can buy bonds back at a discount, if we are liquid enough as a country, we should do that. In other words, we can buy back debt at a discount. People said I wanted to go and buy debt and default on debt, these people are crazy. This is the United States government. First of all, you never have to default because you print the money, I hate to tell you.

[Never1AShow]

The fact you don't understand the world around you shows that you are the one without any experience.

I see it EVERY. SINGLE. DAY.

My experience is without a doubt far more extensive than yours. Feel free to prove me wrong.

What was Cesar Chavez's position on illegal immigrants ?

Show me a study on economic benefits that accounts for the massive costs from immigration and criminal courts and esl programs in schools.

[Hulkotron]

What was Cesar Chavez's position on illegal immigrants ?

Great pound-for-pound fighter

[El Diablo Blanco]

The biggest joke on the American people is the two party system when in reality it's just one party that cater to the super rich.  They keep the guise of a two party system so people don't think they live in a dictator state but the truth is, it's one party, the leader is chosen and we bear the burden of it.

[TuHolmes]

What was Cesar Chavez's position on illegal immigrants ?

Show me a study on economic benefits that accounts for the massive costs from immigration and criminal courts and esl programs in schools.

I don't care about Cesar Chavez's position.

https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/immigration/news/2013/02/08/52377/immigrants-are-makers-not-takers/

http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/cea/cea_immigration_062007.html

[mazrim]

Great pound-for-pound fighter

Which one?

[Tapeworm]

No, I'm realistic.

I really don't care if they stay or go. These are the people painting your house cheap. Picking the lettuce. Washing the dishes at the restaurants you go to.

I don't think you really understand what a huge economic undertaking it is, or how they actually and factually give more to the US economically than they take.

You have some very small minded and incorrect idea that they "take your jobs", but they don't. They take the jobs that you wouldn't dare do, and they do them pretty cheap which is why you can afford certain things.

  I've painted a house and washed dishes.  I'd pick lettuce if there's good money in it.  But I wouldn't do any of these things for a promise of $2/hr and nowhere to turn when the guy doesn't pay up at the end of the week.  

[TuHolmes]

I've painted a house and washed dishes.  I'd pick lettuce if there's good money in it.  But I wouldn't do any of these things for a promise of $2/hr and nowhere to turn when the guy doesn't pay up at the end of the week.  

No one would buy lettuce if you were to pick it.
You wouldn't be able to buy an orange if you
Your food costs would skyrocket.

Even the dish washers would make restaurant prices go up. You wouldn't be able to afford to eat out.

This is just reality.

[Tapeworm]

No one would buy lettuce if you were to pick it.
You wouldn't be able to buy an orange if you
Your food costs would skyrocket.

Even the dish washers would make restaurant prices go up. You wouldn't be able to afford to eat out.

This is just reality.

Not for the entire rest of the developed world, who still afford produce and dinner out just fine.  One might argue that the prices of things in an economy propped up by slave labor are un-reality since they don't accurately represent the true value of the thing.

[TuHolmes]

Not for the entire rest of the developed world, who still afford produce and dinner out just fine.  One might argue that the prices of things in an economy propped up by slave labor are un-reality since they don't accurately represent the true value of the thing.

You think the rest of the "developed" world don't have these low paid workers? This is not something that is US only. There are low paid bus boys and things all around the world.

They have the same situations. Also, the rest of the developed world doesn't eat near as well as the US populace. You get food in a restaurant in other countries and the portions are 1/2 the size for 50% more money.

PLUS the low wage earners.

[Tapeworm]

You think the rest of the "developed" world don't have these low paid workers? This is not something that is US only. There are low paid bus boys and things all around the world.

They have the same situations. Also, the rest of the developed world doesn't eat near as well as the US populace. You get food in a restaurant in other countries and the portions are 1/2 the size for 50% more money.

PLUS the low wage earners.

Low wage workers earn the minimum legal wage and are protected by labor laws.  Illegal workers get none of that.  Also, low wage workers in the US have far crappier lives than low wage workers in other first world nations because the US minimum legal wage is anchored down by the US minimum actual wage that an illegal will work for.

"I got fat because I didn't pay the guy who worked to produce the food sweet fuck all which let me buy it cheap" isn't much of an argument in favor of illegal labor.  If he did an honest day's work he deserves an honest day's pay and the force of law to ensure he receives it.

As an aside, I find it kind of amusing that the overfed US population is always looking down its nose at Mexicans who do jobs that the American guy couldn't do if he tried.  "Oh that's Pedro, he mows my lawn."  Ya, and purchases and maintains all the machines and vehicles to haul them, schedules his jobs, organizes his workers and pays them, collects debts, etc.  Meanwhile the fat white dude with none of his own money in the game, who can't negotiate a non-mechanized flight of stairs, is sitting in a cubicle summing figures in a spreadsheet for someone else, thinking he's the duck's nuts compared to the Mexican lawnmower man, lol.  Who's the last American dude you met that would have the strength (physical & psychological) and the skills be able to head on down to the hardware store parking lot to get work and do any job that came his way?  Most guys would crumple in two days.

[TuHolmes]

Low wage workers earn the minimum legal wage and are protected by labor laws.  Illegal workers get none of that.  Also, low wage workers in the US have far crappier lives than low wage workers in other first world nations because the US minimum legal wage is anchored down by the US minimum actual wage that an illegal will work for.

"I got fat because I didn't pay the guy who worked to produce the food sweet fuck all which let me buy it cheap" isn't much of an argument in favor of illegal labor.  If he did an honest day's work he deserves an honest day's pay and the force of law to ensure he receives it.

As an aside, I find it kind of amusing that the overfed US population is always looking down its nose at Mexicans who do jobs that the American guy couldn't do if he tried.  "Oh that's Pedro, he mows my lawn."  Ya, and purchases and maintains all the machines and vehicles to haul them, schedules his jobs, organizes his workers and pays them, collects debts, etc.  Meanwhile the fat white dude with none of his own money in the game, who can't negotiate a non-mechanized flight of stairs, is sitting in a cubicle summing figures in a spreadsheet for someone else, thinking he's the duck's nuts compared to the Mexican lawnmower man, lol.  Who's the last American dude you met that would have the strength (physical & psychological) and the skills be able to head on down to the hardware store parking lot to get work and do any job that came his way?  Most guys would crumple in two days.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say with most of this.

Low wage earners I'm speaking of are the illegals of any country who are working for most of the times cash under the table. So I'm not speaking of those who are receiving the minimum wage.

I'm not saying it's some great argument, but it is reality. This is just the way things are. Plus, if people were getting fat off of lettuce and oranges, they have bigger issues than just illegal immigrants taking their jobs.

I'm not disagreeing with your last paragraph. My point was that illegals are extremely hard workers and are doing the jobs that the US citizenry refuses to do because they are lazy.

Confused now if you're agreeing with me or not.

[SaintAnger]

You are putting on a clinic, TuHolmes. 

I live around a bunch of thugs who foam at the mouth when they hear Trump speak about "illegals."  Either they don't know or don't care to know of the points you bring up regarding the blow back they'd incur if they left us. 

Honestly, I think they are just hateful, racist people.  Judging by their GEO, it's probably true as a whole.

[Never1AShow]

No clinic, huge welfare, education and medical costs.  No studies account for those, plus crime and courts. 

Keep up with the lies, it's all ending soon.  Hillary won't save you.

[Tapeworm]

I'm not sure what you're trying to say with most of this.

Low wage earners I'm speaking of are the illegals of any country who are working for most of the times cash under the table. So I'm not speaking of those who are receiving the minimum wage.

I'm not saying it's some great argument, but it is reality. This is just the way things are. Plus, if people were getting fat off of lettuce and oranges, they have bigger issues than just illegal immigrants taking their jobs.

I'm not disagreeing with your last paragraph. My point was that illegals are extremely hard workers and are doing the jobs that the US citizenry refuses to do because they are lazy.

Confused now if you're agreeing with me or not.

No, I'm differing.  I don't think illegal labor should be permitted, I think it's a detriment to economic health overall, and I feel bad for illegal workers because I think they get taken advantage of.

I agree that it's the way things are in the US but don't agree that it's how things are all over.  Most countries don't have anywhere near the illegal labor force that the US draws on and they all do just fine imo, and enjoy a better average standard of living than the US.

Because it's how it is at the moment doesn't make me think it's how it should stay.  I'd like to see all workers benefiting from fair working wages and labor laws.  I also think a physical barrier at the border and enforcement of immigration law is a good idea and long overdue.  We simply can't transplant the entire population of the third world into the first world, so at some point we've got to close the door.  Idk if I'd go so far as to deport people since lax enforcement of immigration policy makes the US complicit in resident illegals having set up their lives in America.

[drkaje]

Sen them all back as an experiment.

[SaintAnger]

No clinic, huge welfare, education and medical costs.  No studies account for those, plus crime and courts. 

Keep up with the lies, it's all ending soon.  Hillary won't save you.

Dude, not everyone is looking to be "saved" by anyone, much less Hillary, Trump or even a President.  Focus on making enough money where it basically doesn't matter who wins.