Big thank you to Jizmo

[equipoise]

Just want to say thanks to Jizmo, imo one of the best posters on here (no homo). Doesn't sugarcoat or BS things and tells it like it is. I haven't always been consistent with my training or AAS usage, but when I have, Jizmo has always, always been on point regarding his own experience, the effects of drugs, how to counter sides, etc. Thanks!

[Jizmo]

oh you  
im not that active on here lately but dont worry, just having a lot of work to do for the next 2-3 weeks, then ill be back on full blast (hehe)

[kevinf]

ya thanks for advices jizzmo
hard to come by guys who are as honest as him..most big guys will swear to their grave they are just on TRT doses 

[Mad-scientist]

I agree jizmo is very helpful  thanks man for the advice on my threads and posts over the years.

[pestosterone]

ya thanks for advices jizzmo
hard to come by guys who are as honest as him..most big guys will swear to their grave they are just on TRT doses  

Yet Jizmo said he was below 190lbs on a gram of test plus more shit in recent posts. Wtf is considered a "big guy" now days? No disrespect to jizmo he has knowldge and has even helped me alot through his posts. Very smart and educated on this shit, but goddamn isn't this place www.getbig.com

[heenok]

You realise weight without taking height, bone structure or bodyfat is meaningless ? Or you are a complete retard ?
Anyone can be over 225lbs eating pizzas and cakes it doesnt mean shit.

[pestosterone]

Haha oh yeah I was only meaning fat boys not body builders or people who look like body builders . Pizza and cakes ha fuck. A complete retard i must be then. ok this place is turning into elite fitness accept don't have all the garbage products to be pushed.
People here are not anybody they are on drugs that do shit which yields the results I speak of. I guess I expect more than this average shit. Yes I know height and weight most I know 5ft 9 in real life not Internet shit after a few years of training and maybe a local.BB show well over 200lbs on stage not just summer time cut at 225-240 sometimes. Again not your regular people who eat pizza and goddamn cakes u fucking bitch. People.on drugs and train and eat food to grow with trophies for how they look maybe not mean anything but small BB shows is common place.  Yes anyone can be over 225lbs eating pizza and cakes your are correct.

[equipoise]

Haha oh yeah I was only meaning fat boys not body builders or people who look like body builders . Pizza and cakes ha fuck. A complete retard i must be then. ok this place is turning into elite fitness accept don't have all the garbage products to be pushed.
People here are not anybody they are on drugs that do shit which yields the results I speak of. I guess I expect more than this average shit. Yes I know height and weight most I know 5ft 9 in real life not Internet shit after a few years of training and maybe a local.BB show well over 200lbs on stage not just summer time cut at 225-240 sometimes. Again not your regular people who eat pizza and goddamn cakes u fucking bitch. People.on drugs and train and eat food to grow with trophies for how they look maybe not mean anything but small BB shows is common place.  Yes anyone can be over 225lbs eating pizza and cakes your are correct.

yeah i understand but i remember jizmo saying that he is 5'8 and natural twink, to be 190 lbs lean at that height and bone structure is actually very big, for comparison jeremy buendia mr physique olympia is 5'8 and 165 lbs on stage but is very muscular, I think natural bone structure makes a big difference.

for people like me with twink bone structure adding even small weight like 5 lbs looks like a lot compared to other guys

[Jizmo]

well i need a ton of AAS to "get that look"... most people do... im 5'8 and i can weigh 180lbs at 8% bodyfat on 500mg of test (and look like your average big guy) but when im THE SAME WEIGHT SAME BODYFAT but on a gram of tren and a gram of npp i look 30 lbs heavier, muscles twice as full, veiny, skin tight and transparent... weight doesnt mean shit imo... its all about how you look... some genetically blessed guys can look insane on low dosages... i personally cant

[heenok]

well i need a ton of AAS to "get that look"... most people do... im 5'8 and i can weigh 180lbs at 8% bodyfat on 500mg of test (and look like your average big guy) but when im THE SAME WEIGHT SAME BODYFAT but on a gram of tren and a gram of npp i look 30 lbs heavier, muscles twice as full, veiny, skin tight and transparent... weight doesnt mean shit imo... its all about how you look... some genetically blessed guys can look insane on low dosages... i personally cant

lol are you sure its the same bodyfat at all ?

[Jizmo]

lol are you sure its the same bodyfat at all ?

lol im not retarded man
same skinfold measurements... oyu wouldnt imagine the difference 10lbs of water in subcutaneous tissue vs 10lbs of water stored intramuscular can make...
its a HUGE difference in how you look.. both tren and npp seem to pull water from other tissues into the muscle, making the muscle itself appear much larger, pushing against the skin from inside and theres very little water between the muscle and the skin anyway...
test just makes you pull water everywhere. shitty look, but can be avoided by stacking tren, winny, mast or whatever with it

[equipoise]

lol im not retarded man
same skinfold measurements... oyu wouldnt imagine the difference 10lbs of water in subcutaneous tissue vs 10lbs of water stored intramuscular can make...
its a HUGE difference in how you look.. both tren and npp seem to pull water from other tissues into the muscle, making the muscle itself appear much larger, pushing against the skin from inside and theres very little water between the muscle and the skin anyway...
test just makes you pull water everywhere. shitty look, but can be avoided by stacking tren, winny, mast or whatever with it

so the reason for the "look" is intramuscular water? surely it must be more than that. Don't think I really gain that much muscle on tren, but I still have no fucking idea why the look of the muscle changes so dramatically.

[Jenetics]

so the reason for the "look" is intramuscular water? surely it must be more than that. Don't think I really gain that much muscle on tren, but I still have no fucking idea why the look of the muscle changes so dramatically.

"The look" being referred to here is surely a combination of less subcutaneous water and greater intra-muscular glycogen and water retention... and low body fat of course, single digits. It really is the heavy androgens that do not aromatise (or aromatise very little) that add to "the look."