Talk To Me About Tren-What Does It Do For YOU?

[EasternHammer]

  So currently I'm using trenbolone for the first time.  Injecting 75mg ED along with 50mg test prop ED, Pharmacom brand.  After three weeks, while I'm seeing some good things, it doesn't seem like my experience matches up with what so many people say about tren.  I was curious to know about some your personal thoughts with the compound, and what it does for you.  By the way, if you think I just need to be more patient, say so.  I'm a big guy, I can handle it.  

  The Good:

-After Day 4 of injections, my libido fucking exploded.  Just unbelievably horny all damn day.  I'm certain that this is not the testosterone, because I've been on test for the last six months and it didn't change my libido at all, even at a gram a week.  
-I feel fantastic mentally.  I hate to use the word "alpha" but I feel more confident, more assertive, more everything.  
-Bitches love me.  I dunno what it is, but every girl seems way more receptive.  I went out with three girls last week and fucked all of them on the first date.  The same girl who turned me down at the beginning of the summer is all about me now.  Could this all be coincidence, I have no idea but it's pretty damn cool either way.  

  The Bad/Questionable:

-Haven't really seen DRAMATIC changes in body composition.  Am I getting leaner, sure, but I'm eating 3k cals and doing cardio five days a week.  I don't feel like I'm cutting up any faster than I was pre-tren.  
- Nothing has changed in terms of muscle shape/hardness.  Of course, getting leaner will help with all that, but it's not happening yet.
-Definitely no change in pumps at the gym or in strength.  The strength thing is disappointing, because I do compete in powerlifting and was hoping for a big boost going into an October bench contest.  And before anyone asks, yes I am pushing myself with the poundages.  
-Haven't seen any of the common tren side effects.  No sweats, no insomnia, no irritability/ aggression/paranoia.  I think my cardio is slightly worse, but I could just be imagining things.  



  I've got enough tren to last me till the end of October, so I'm going to keep at it and see what happens.  So what does tren do for you?  

[local hero]

Apart from test, tren is bodybuilding....id go as far as to say nothing else comes anywhere close, if your single digits and dont improve on these compounds somthing is wrong

[equipoise]

 So currently I'm using trenbolone for the first time.  Injecting 75mg ED along with 50mg test prop ED, Pharmacom brand.  After three weeks, while I'm seeing some good things, it doesn't seem like my experience matches up with what so many people say about tren.  I was curious to know about some your personal thoughts with the compound, and what it does for you.  By the way, if you think I just need to be more patient, say so.  I'm a big guy, I can handle it.  

  The Good:

-After Day 4 of injections, my libido fucking exploded.  Just unbelievably horny all damn day.  I'm certain that this is not the testosterone, because I've been on test for the last six months and it didn't change my libido at all, even at a gram a week.  
-I feel fantastic mentally.  I hate to use the word "alpha" but I feel more confident, more assertive, more everything.  
-Bitches love me.  I dunno what it is, but every girl seems way more receptive.  I went out with three girls last week and fucked all of them on the first date.  The same girl who turned me down at the beginning of the summer is all about me now.  Could this all be coincidence, I have no idea but it's pretty damn cool either way.  

  The Bad/Questionable:

-Haven't really seen DRAMATIC changes in body composition.  Am I getting leaner, sure, but I'm eating 3k cals and doing cardio five days a week.  I don't feel like I'm cutting up any faster than I was pre-tren.  
- Nothing has changed in terms of muscle shape/hardness.  Of course, getting leaner will help with all that, but it's not happening yet.
-Definitely no change in pumps at the gym or in strength.  The strength thing is disappointing, because I do compete in powerlifting and was hoping for a big boost going into an October bench contest.  And before anyone asks, yes I am pushing myself with the poundages.  
-Haven't seen any of the common tren side effects.  No sweats, no insomnia, no irritability/ aggression/paranoia.  I think my cardio is slightly worse, but I could just be imagining things.  



  I've got enough tren to last me till the end of October, so I'm going to keep at it and see what happens.  So what does tren do for you?  

careful, messes with your head after awhile. For me I find that my higher-level thinking takes a bit of a hit on it. Not a retard of course, still did exams on it lol, but not as sharp as I usually am.

Ran it high dosed for 4 months last year and towards the end i just felt empty, depressed, and angry all the time. This year I cut the dose by about 30% and ran it for 8 weeks, much better

[Jizmo]

-Bitches love me.  I dunno what it is, but every girl seems way more receptive.  I went out with three girls last week and fucked all of them on the first date.  The same girl who turned me down at the beginning of the summer is all about me now.  Could this all be coincidence, I have no idea but it's pretty damn cool either way.  

people claim this is broscience or comes from the mentality you get while on tren but i SWEAR bitches can smell the shit flowing through your veins.
i NEVER had a girl turn me down when i was on tren ever, and you always get them on the first date if you try to.
on tren i staretd having girls all over my ass who wouldnt even look at me before...

must be something about the pheromones you sweat out or whatever, but its REALLY noticable and not a comparison at all to ANY other AAS...

[inb4gains]

people claim this is broscience or comes from the mentality you get while on tren but i SWEAR bitches can smell the shit flowing through your veins.
i NEVER had a girl turn me down when i was on tren ever, and you always get them on the first date if you try to.
on tren i staretd having girls all over my ass who wouldnt even look at me before...

must be something about the pheromones you sweat out or whatever, but its REALLY noticable and not a comparison at all to ANY other AAS...

it happen with me too

[EasternHammer]

  What's the longest you guys would wait to see any kind of change in body composition before concluding that something's up?  I was really looking for muscle separation and strength out of tren, but so far nada. 

[inb4gains]

3D delts come very quickly in my case

[lilhawk1]

people claim this is broscience or comes from the mentality you get while on tren but i SWEAR bitches can smell the shit flowing through your veins.
i NEVER had a girl turn me down when i was on tren ever, and you always get them on the first date if you try to.
on tren i staretd having girls all over my ass who wouldnt even look at me before...

must be something about the pheromones you sweat out or whatever, but its REALLY noticable and not a comparison at all to ANY other AAS...

You're correct about pheromones.. My girlfriend knows exactly when I'm on tren without me even telling her.. When she's near me, she'll say something like 'there's that smell again', then comment on how it makes her horny.. Definitely something to it..

[equipoise]

people claim this is broscience or comes from the mentality you get while on tren but i SWEAR bitches can smell the shit flowing through your veins.
i NEVER had a girl turn me down when i was on tren ever, and you always get them on the first date if you try to.
on tren i staretd having girls all over my ass who wouldnt even look at me before...

must be something about the pheromones you sweat out or whatever, but its REALLY noticable and not a comparison at all to ANY other AAS...

I'm wondering if this pheromonal effect is able to outweigh the sometimes negative facial changes associated with tren use for me, I look more masculine but also slightly more bloated at the same time, probably net no effect lol

[Overload]

Pros:

-Makes me strong as a bull.
-Increases energy in the gym once i get the blood flowing.
-Seems to give me a harder look.
-Makes me hungry all the time.
-Makes building muscle easier, due to strength and increase in calories.
-Does seem to get women's attention; i do believe there are pheromones or something of the like.  Large doses of Test do the same thing.  My personal opinion, is it puts the Male in "heat" so they notice the small ques more and put off a different vibe.  That's just my opinion, but there could be more to it.

Cons:

-Gives me intense anxiety; i'm already hyper, but it makes me feel a bit crazy.
-I sweat all day.
-Insomnia.
-Very short temper; people don't want to admit "roid rage", but androgens always make me aggressive, which is good in the gym, not at work or with your SO.
-BP goes through the roof, even on 400mg EW.
-Ruins my entire blood panel within weeks.
-Kills my endurance.

Due to the health related issues, i don't use Tren anymore and probably never will, it destroys my values and i am more focused on health these days.  I have no use for it now that i just lift weights for a hobby and to stay in shape.  If you're a competitive bodybuilder or strength athlete, it's the holy grail, but if you need endurance stay far away IMO.

Oddly enough, the best results i ever got on Tren was using 800mg with a TRT dose of Test and 8iu of GH, a little T3/4 mixed in along the way.  I was in the best shape of my life on this stack about 4 years ago.

[Overload]

  What's the longest you guys would wait to see any kind of change in body composition before concluding that something's up?  I was really looking for muscle separation and strength out of tren, but so far nada. 

6 weeks on long esters.  4 weeks on short.

You should be able to see and feel a small difference by these times.

For me, gains always came around the 8 week mark, which is why i always believed in long cycles.

[Mranabolic]

6 weeks on long esters.  4 weeks on short.

You should be able to see and feel a small difference by these times.

For me, gains always came around the 8 week mark, which is why i always believed in long cycles.

Same for me , long cycles or i just gain/drop water and glycogen

[pestosterone]

Yea long cycles 3 years long and your golden. Fuck i need to come off instead of blasting again after 8n
 Weeks of cruise.

[youandme]

On now at 100mg day, crazy, veins , crazy pumps, agression, terrible sleep, night sweating, increas strength

Sounds like you just have prop

[EasternHammer]

On now at 100mg day, crazy, veins , crazy pumps, agression, terrible sleep, night sweating, increas strength

Sounds like you just have prop

   I'm open to the possibility that I got something that is not tren.  That would be disappointing.  At this point, all I have is an expensive (and painful) way to get more pussy.  Which is cool, but not what I paid for lol.  I'll go thru another 20ml but I'm starting to lose hope.  By the way...does anyone get sore elbows on tren?  I mean like so painful that lowering the bar on the bench is a problem? 

[heenok]

I think the women thing boils down to confidence and hornyness. Tren plays with your mind making you think girls are into you so you get super confident which actually is a turn on for women...

[sceagacros]

Q) What does it do for you?

A) It tempts me , my friend - I'm turning 49 soon and Tren would probably be a BAD idea on so many levels, but when I read about it's physique "magic", that little voice that says "don't be an idiot" develops immediate onset debilitating laryngitis.

[pestosterone]

Tren makes me look hard as fuck and strong as fuck. I get extreme vascularity and fat melts off easy I see noticeable changes by the day in the mirror at moderate dosages. After 10 weeks I am a fucking psychopath and have to come off then I get acne for 2 weeks on my shoulders which is a zit or 2 on myour delts which I never get any pimples. Causes my hair to thin out as well. I love that shit but use it once a year

[equipoise]

   I'm open to the possibility that I got something that is not tren.  That would be disappointing.  At this point, all I have is an expensive (and painful) way to get more pussy.  Which is cool, but not what I paid for lol.  I'll go thru another 20ml but I'm starting to lose hope.  By the way...does anyone get sore elbows on tren?  I mean like so painful that lowering the bar on the bench is a problem? 

real tren is extremely powerful, I guess there may be a chance that you don't respond to it, but maybe try another brand, a reputable one like alpha pharma or something. I can honestly feel the effects of tren (mentally) within 2 or 3 days of using, noticeable physical changes are apparent by about 4-5 days

[pestosterone]

First time I shot 100mgs of tren ace I could feel it in a few hours first shot I got the cough as well. The cough is what tells me the tren is legit if im low dosing takes a few days to notice but 100mgs of good tren and I know.

[youandme]

First time I shot 100mgs of tren ace I could feel it in a few hours first shot I got the cough as well. The cough is what tells me the tren is legit if im low dosing takes a few days to notice but 100mgs of good tren and I know.

I've gotten that only a few times. I feel a weird sensation in my lungs and medicine type taste after shot.

[EasternHammer]

  Well, I got in touch with Pharmacom directly but they aren't interested in testing a vial to see exactly what it is.  So I'll have to deal with the reseller, not too hopeful about that. 

[pestosterone]

I've gotten that only a few times. I feel a weird sensation in my lungs and medicine type taste after shot.

Wierd feeling in the lungs for sure.

[Henda]

Did the scratch code check out on the pharmacom website?

[youandme]

I'm on pharamacom now and it is legit.  I think they tested a batch and it came in around 10 mgs under dosed which is not that bad.

Best stuff ever was pellets though