Author Topic: Untouchable (Read 26485 times)

bigdumbbell · « **Reply #50 on:** March 31, 2006, 11:39:01 AM »

Quote from: dontknowit on March 31, 2006, 10:33:21 AM

Dorian's league

Mister underwearseller Nasser

he doesnt really sell his tighty whiteys does he? lol

LuciusFox · « **Reply #51 on:** March 31, 2006, 12:11:07 PM »

Quote from: natural al on March 31, 2006, 11:35:08 AM

show me a pic of his asymmetrical quads..i'm not saying your wrong I just don't remember that ever being an issue.

I really don't know how to post pictures, but if you look at almost any picture of him, you can see it. It may have been from his minor quad tear.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #52 on:** March 31, 2006, 12:21:19 PM »

Quote from: LuciusFox on March 31, 2006, 11:29:43 AM

His quads were ugly and asymmetrical. No striations and barely any cuts. He was only unbeatable because the judges favored grotesqueries.

His legs overall were pretty fuggin great , he had excellent cuts , I believe he tore part of his quad in 94 as well so in the later years they did look a little smooth , and his rectus femoris & vastus lateralis look overdeveloped , it does look odd , however is satorius muscle was fully developed and thats rare for someone his size

His quads were in much better balance & proportion with his physique than Colemans , not to mention calves , Yates had ripped glutes and excellent hamstrings .

Al-Gebra · « **Reply #53 on:** March 31, 2006, 12:22:56 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on March 31, 2006, 12:21:19 PM

His legs overall were pretty fuggin great , he had excellent cuts , I believe he tore part of his quad in 94 as well so in the later years they did look a little smooth , and his rectus femoris & vastus lateralis look overdeveloped , it does look odd , however is satorius muscle was fully developed and thats rare for someone his size

His quads were in much better balance & proportion with his physique than Colemans , not to mention calves , Yates had ripped glutes and excellent hamstrings .

given his record, i'd be surprised if he didn't site inject his calves.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #54 on:** March 31, 2006, 12:25:41 PM »

Quote from: Al-Gebra on March 31, 2006, 12:22:56 PM

given his record, i'd be surprised if he didn't site inject his calves.

His record? and if anyone is site injecting calves it would be Ronnie .

Al-Gebra · « **Reply #55 on:** March 31, 2006, 12:28:36 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on March 31, 2006, 12:25:41 PM

His record? and if anyone is site injecting calves it would be Ronnie .

1. Why wouldn't he do to his calves whatever he did to his delts? It's not like his delts were weak or anything . . . he just sounds like a person who likes taking advantage, fair or unfair.

2. I'm not Hulkster.

natural al · « **Reply #56 on:** March 31, 2006, 12:33:38 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on March 31, 2006, 12:21:19 PM

His legs overall were pretty fuggin great , he had excellent cuts , I believe he tore part of his quad in 94 as well so in the later years they did look a little smooth , and his rectus femoris & vastus lateralis look overdeveloped , it does look odd , however is satorius muscle was fully developed and thats rare for someone his size

His quads were in much better balance & proportion with his physique than Colemans , not to mention calves , Yates had ripped glutes and excellent hamstrings .

they look fine to me...

LuciusFox · « **Reply #57 on:** March 31, 2006, 12:34:39 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on March 31, 2006, 12:21:19 PM

His legs overall were pretty fuggin great , he had excellent cuts , I believe he tore part of his quad in 94 as well so in the later years they did look a little smooth , and his rectus femoris & vastus lateralis look overdeveloped , it does look odd , however is satorius muscle was fully developed and thats rare for someone his size

His quads were in much better balance & proportion with his physique than Colemans , not to mention calves , Yates had ripped glutes and excellent hamstrings .

His quad/calf balance is definitely much better than Coleman's. Of course, Ronnie's glutes and hamstrings are more ripped, and in that picture, you can see how asymmetrical Dorian's quads are. Great calves though.

LuciusFox · « **Reply #58 on:** March 31, 2006, 12:40:18 PM »

Quote from: natural al on March 31, 2006, 12:33:38 PM

they look fine to me...

Then you probably shouldn't be a bodybuilding judge. It is pretty obvious that they are different. Then again, some people struggle mightily to see that Jay has asymmetrical quads.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #59 on:** March 31, 2006, 12:43:12 PM »

Quote from: LuciusFox on March 31, 2006, 12:34:39 PM

His quad/calf balance is definitely much better than Coleman's. Of course, Ronnie's glutes and hamstrings are more ripped, and in that picture, you can see how asymmetrical Dorian's quads are. Great calves though.

I have bad news for you , nothing in nature is symmetrical , and I think Ron does have more ' ripped ' glutes which I don't give a flying fuck about , but Yates' hamstrings were pretty great .

LuciusFox · « **Reply #60 on:** March 31, 2006, 12:45:33 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on March 31, 2006, 12:43:12 PM

I have bad news for you , nothing in nature is symmetrical , and I think Ron does have more ' ripped ' glutes which I don't give a flying f**k about , but Yates' hamstrings were pretty great .

When I say asymmetrical, I mean seriously asymmetrical, enough ro ruin someone's symmetry and aesthetics. Thanks for telling me something I already knew about nature though

Yates does have great hammies, Ronnie does too, very separated.

sculpture · « **Reply #61 on:** March 31, 2006, 12:48:16 PM »

ND's post highlights his problem: selective criteria. He doesnt give a fudge about ripped glutes but is so hung up on calves its just plain silly.

natural al · « **Reply #62 on:** March 31, 2006, 12:59:56 PM »

Quote from: LuciusFox on March 31, 2006, 12:40:18 PM

Then you probably shouldn't be a bodybuilding judge. It is pretty obvious that they are different. Then again, some people struggle mightily to see that Jay has asymmetrical quads.

well, I'm not a judge but in that pic he's flexing one leg and one is relaxed. His right leg is cocked and twisted to one side so I don't see how you can compare the symmetry just from that shot...to judge it the right way wouldn't you need a straight on shot in the "relexed" position?

LuciusFox · « **Reply #63 on:** March 31, 2006, 01:01:09 PM »

Quote from: sculpture on March 31, 2006, 12:48:16 PM

ND's post highlights his problem: selective criteria. He doesnt give a fudge about ripped glutes but is so hung up on calves its just plain silly.

ND loves Dorian a bit too much. Is ND a homosexual?

LuciusFox · « **Reply #64 on:** March 31, 2006, 01:02:16 PM »

Quote from: natural al on March 31, 2006, 12:59:56 PM

well, I'm not a judge but in that pic he's flexing one leg and one is relaxed. His right leg is cocked and twisted to one side so I don't see how you can compare the symmetry just from that shot...to judge it the right way wouldn't you need a straight on shot in the "relexed" position?

No, you would not. Have you ever seen Dorian's legs before? You seem like you haven't.

natural al · « **Reply #65 on:** March 31, 2006, 01:02:36 PM »

Quote from: sculpture on March 31, 2006, 12:48:16 PM

ND's post highlights his problem: selective criteria. He doesnt give a fudge about ripped glutes but is so hung up on calves its just plain silly.

sorry dude but that's one of the worst posts I've ever read..ripped glutes don't mean a thing..like lee says "no one starts out training for ripped glutes" they are a result of diet and don't really mean shit. Why should glutes be judged in a bodybuilding show?

LuciusFox · « **Reply #66 on:** March 31, 2006, 01:04:59 PM »

Quote from: natural al on March 31, 2006, 01:02:36 PM

sorry dude but that's one of the worst posts I've ever read..ripped glutes don't mean a thing..like lee says "no one starts out training for ripped glutes" they are a result of diet and don't really mean shit. Why should glutes be judged in a bodybuilding show?

They are one of the largest muscles in the body and unless they are ripped, you are not completed shredded. No one starts out training for legs either (for the most part), but that doesn't make them unimportant. Lee says that because he has soft glutes and hams.

natural al · « **Reply #67 on:** March 31, 2006, 01:05:13 PM »

Quote from: LuciusFox on March 31, 2006, 01:02:16 PM

No, you would not. Have you ever seen Dorian's legs before? You seem like you haven't.

tell me oh great one, how does one judge the symmetry of a persons legs if not in the "relaxed" position from the front? Isn't that how they assess symmetry during the symmetry round?

natural al · « **Reply #68 on:** March 31, 2006, 01:06:41 PM »

Quote from: LuciusFox on March 31, 2006, 01:04:59 PM

They are one of the largest muscles in the body and unless they are ripped, you are not completed shredded. No one starts out training for legs either (for the most part), but that doesn't make them unimportant. Lee says that because he has soft glutes and hams.

people were in pretty good shape in the 80's and no one had ripped glutes before Gaspari..so what you're saying is no one was ripped before Gaspari?

LuciusFox · « **Reply #69 on:** March 31, 2006, 01:08:21 PM »

Quote from: natural al on March 31, 2006, 01:06:41 PM

people were in pretty good shape in the 80's and no one had ripped glutes before Gaspari..so what you're saying is no one was ripped before Gaspari?

People were ripped, they were just not absolutely shredded to the bone.

Garmonbozia · « **Reply #70 on:** March 31, 2006, 01:12:02 PM »

Quote from: Hulkster on March 30, 2006, 06:50:31 PM

No, I am not basing Yates' gift wins on a few pics and the fact that he has a gut. I am basing it on the fact that Yates, in 1994 had:

1. horrible delts
2. horrible overall arms
3. even more horrible quads.
4. horribe taper
5. horrible abs
6. almost no vascularity
7. very few striations.
8. poor chest.
9. GH gut
10. very wide waist on top of the gut
11. poor upper back detail
12. biceps that cannot be seen from the back.
13. undetailed hams
14. blocky appearance
15. poor tan
16. torn, missing left biceps muscle

Is that enough for ya?

Yates in 1994 was the definition of being overrated.

and, that is pretty obvious to most rational people. Yates 1994 contest season was a joke. The only thing he had going for him was a good lat spread, and even then, his quads sucked, so it was only good from the waist up. Everything else suffered that year.

Actually, I think this post will go down in Getbig history as the most idiotic post ever, which says a lot.

natural al · « **Reply #71 on:** March 31, 2006, 01:13:52 PM »

Quote from: LuciusFox on March 31, 2006, 01:08:21 PM

People were ripped, they were just not absolutely shredded to the bone.

and no one died or lost a kidney from "getting in shape" back then either. When did ripped glutes start to be judged anyway?

LuciusFox · « **Reply #72 on:** March 31, 2006, 01:14:39 PM »

Quote from: Garmonbozia on March 31, 2006, 01:12:02 PM

Actually, I think this post will go down in Getbig history as the most idiotic post ever, which says a lot.

Trust me, there have been far worse posts

LuciusFox · « **Reply #73 on:** March 31, 2006, 01:15:39 PM »

Quote from: natural al on March 31, 2006, 01:13:52 PM

and no one died or lost a kidney from "getting in shape" back then either. When did ripped glutes start to be judged anyway?

Ripped glutes didn't kill anyone, diuretics misuse did. Rip glutes started being judged when judges realized how impressive they looked.

natural al · « **Reply #74 on:** March 31, 2006, 01:22:22 PM »

Quote from: LuciusFox on March 31, 2006, 01:15:39 PM

Ripped glutes didn't kill anyone, diuretics misuse did. Rip glutes started being judged when judges realized how impressive they looked.

huh? when was this? Flex won alot of shows..did he ever have ripped glutes? big Kev won shows and was not known for having ripped glutes..vince taylor..no ripped glutes. Cormier...don't know but I don't recall anyone ever saying "wow look at cormier's ripped glutes". dorian had em but it was not his calling card, this whole ripped glutes thing is moronic at best. Who the fuck goes to a BB show to see ripped glutes?

Why do you think people use diuretics? To get harder on stage..how do you show off ripped glutes by being as hard as possible that's why people use diuretics. that's why people are dying...well among other things but that's another story.