Author Topic: If AMI is in trouble, is the OLYMPIA in trouble? (Read 14090 times)

youandme · « **Reply #25 on:** March 30, 2006, 04:39:25 PM »

Quote from: bigdumbbell on March 30, 2006, 03:44:39 PM

this board is almost overly regulated now

Agreed.

Crusher · « **Reply #26 on:** March 30, 2006, 04:51:16 PM »

As of last night, there is NO listing for the Olympia on the Orleans website.

Olympia website says tickets will go on sale March 20. They did not.

Don't worry about PDI's show, that is going to happen. You can buy tickets to the NOC right now. Start worring about the Olympia!

If happens, the Olympia is going to suck - just like last year. And just as boring because Coleman is going to win again.

Excitement? What, pray tell, would that be? No challenge round? Ooooooooohhh.... That's exciting!!

When Pecker gets the axe the guy that comes in to replace him is going to take one look at AMI's involvement in BB and cringe. They will cut it because it is NOT profitable for them. Remember, you have to add in to the price of the Olympia the $400,000 they have to pay Weider every year for his half, and all the athletes AMI has under contract. Add it all up and Pecker is shoveling money at BB and it is just not coming back - just like all the other investments he's made to rack up that BILLION dollar debt.

DragonsBreath · « **Reply #27 on:** March 30, 2006, 04:57:00 PM »

Quote from: Crusher on March 30, 2006, 04:51:16 PM

As of last night, there is NO listing for the Olympia on the Orleans website.

Olympia website says tickets will go on sale March 20. They did not.

Don't worry about PDI's show, that is going to happen. You can buy tickets to the NOC right now. Start worring about the Olympia!

If happens, the Olympia is going to suck - just like last year. And just as boring because Coleman is going to win again.

Excitement? What, pray tell, would that be? No challenge round? Ooooooooohhh.... That's exciting!!

When Pecker gets the axe the guy that comes in to replace him is going to take one look at AMI's involvement in BB and cringe. They will cut it because it is NOT profitable for them. Remember, you have to add in to the price of the Olympia the $400,000 they have to pay Weider every year for his half, and all the athletes AMI has under contract. Add it all up and Pecker is shoveling money at BB and it is just not coming back - just like all the other investments he's made to rack up that BILLION dollar debt.

EXACTLY!

Palpatine Q · « **Reply #28 on:** March 30, 2006, 05:09:13 PM »

Quote from: Crusher on March 30, 2006, 04:51:16 PM

When Pecker gets the axe the guy that comes in to replace him is going to take one look at AMI's involvement in BB and cringe. They will cut it because it is NOT profitable for them.

this is something I expected to happen already, but ultimately will be a huge blow to BBing in general. When Weider was the king of the empire there was someone who was pro-bbing at the top. Say what you want how he fvcked people over this shit was in his blood. Not so for the new regime. There is going to be the day when one of these bean counters says "Olympia-Schmolympia....fvck these freaks, it loses money."

bigdumbbell · « **Reply #29 on:** March 30, 2006, 05:14:38 PM »

he's had that ability for awhile it's just surfacing

onlyme · « **Reply #30 on:** March 30, 2006, 08:21:37 PM »

Quote from: Crusher on March 30, 2006, 04:51:16 PM

As of last night, there is NO listing for the Olympia on the Orleans website.

Olympia website says tickets will go on sale March 20. They did not.

Don't worry about PDI's show, that is going to happen. You can buy tickets to the NOC right now. Start worring about the Olympia!

If happens, the Olympia is going to suck - just like last year. And just as boring because Coleman is going to win again.

Excitement? What, pray tell, would that be? No challenge round? Ooooooooohhh.... That's exciting!!

When Pecker gets the axe the guy that comes in to replace him is going to take one look at AMI's involvement in BB and cringe. They will cut it because it is NOT profitable for them. Remember, you have to add in to the price of the Olympia the $400,000 they have to pay Weider every year for his half, and all the athletes AMI has under contract. Add it all up and Pecker is shoveling money at BB and it is just not coming back - just like all the other investments he's made to rack up that BILLION dollar debt.

That is true. Does that mean it is not happening. Since everyone says the NOC isn't happening becasue it is not listed. Is the Olympia been cancelled. You would think it would at least be listed and scheduled. Another bumbling by AMI. Probably didn;t send in the payment. WHo is the new COO AMI hired.

Crusher · « **Reply #31 on:** March 30, 2006, 08:30:52 PM »

The NOC is scheduled - Sep 15th at the Town Hall Theater in Manhattan. You can buy tickets right now on PDI's website. You can't do that witht he Olympia!

Ron · « **Reply #32 on:** March 30, 2006, 09:26:59 PM »

Once again, it doesnt matter on the focus of this thread if the NOC is scheduled or not. Most likely - it is scheduled and will be run. What is the focus of this thread is that the Olympia Weekend is the best and most visible bodybuilding event of the year, and the Olympia is not in trouble for 2006. It will be at the Orleans, it will be fun, and like I said before, almost everyone that was there last year will be back again this year.

Wombat · « **Reply #33 on:** March 30, 2006, 09:43:04 PM »

Quote from: Lee_a_priest on March 30, 2006, 03:06:09 PM

Ron thats the same crap you said last year and look what happened worse show ever.I predict it will be the same.

maybe so but not one sport out there can claim that every year is better then the last...Their is peaks and valleys with any business...Imagine what you would think if the first olympia ever held was held today...It would be a joke BUT it doesn't mean it would be the end of the olympia...Their is nothing else like it...So it would go on one way or another...

Adam Empire · « **Reply #34 on:** March 30, 2006, 10:21:45 PM »

What I find hilarious is the Spam email from Flex advertising the 2006 O. (It went right to my Junk mail box). Anyway, the timing was the same day that PDI put out their relese of the 3 European shows and prize money, etc. I have been on the Flex mailing list for years, and they have never sent this spam for the O so early in the year. Looks to me that they are in a defense mode.

Again though, the expo will be quite a ways from the hotel - and they will uses buses again. When they shopped for a venue, they should have done a better job finding one with a decent size hall to hold the expo in (or a hotel much closer to the expo). They are setting themselves up again imo.

phyxsius · « **Reply #35 on:** March 30, 2006, 10:54:12 PM »

There will be no Mr. Olympia this year.. All athletes jumped ship to PDI.

HowieW · « **Reply #36 on:** March 31, 2006, 07:50:28 AM »

Quote from: Crusher on March 30, 2006, 08:30:52 PM

The NOC is scheduled - Sep 15th at the Town Hall Theater in Manhattan. You can buy tickets right now on PDI's website. You can't do that witht he Olympia!

Hmm, let's see, the Olympia has a long histry as the event in bodybuilding and plenty of top guys getting ready for it, but nobody can get tickets yet and the event is NOT even listed on the venue schedule

The PDI NY show has a venue and tickets for sale but the guys who will compete is still a mystery

...and I wonder why this sport is not mainstream and on TV

YoMamaBeenLurking · « **Reply #37 on:** March 31, 2006, 08:09:28 AM »

Quote from: Ron on March 30, 2006, 04:14:59 PM

Well, last I checked planet earth. I am interested to know what planet you think you are on?

Nice try Ron. My comment was in response to your statment "Now, as for AMI, Weider Pubs is doing just fine, and Pecker has much bigger problems to take care of then deal with the profitable side of things."

Right here on your own board I've read posts regarding lagging sales and circulation of their magazines from referenced and credible sources (NY Post, min, etc.), the article that kicked off this topic and even the quote below are just 2 examples...

Quote from: IndustryInsider on March 08, 2006, 11:30:29 AM

Interesting numbers for you all direct from this weeks min newsletter…

March 6, 2006
Media Industry Newsletter (min)
Vol. 59 No. 10

Second Half 2005 Magazine Analysis

Flex Rate Base/Circ Guarantee
None claimed

Single Copies (%) (Newsstand Sales)
70,529 (-7.3%)
This is not a sign of poor customer service, producing a withering product editorially is most likely the culprit for the decline in sales here.

Subscriptions (%)
41,111 (-13.4%)
This decline looks to be right on par with your customer service woes.

Total (%)
111,640 (-9.6%)

Ouch!

Let alone the constant bloodloss going on in their publishing division that is being reported almost weekly in newspapers and magazines serving both the consumer and trade side of publishing.

Fact is that the mags being in trouble is the big problem that Pecker has to take care of. That's what the business is...PUBLISHING. If he is not taking care of getting the company profitable, then what he is being paid to do in the first place?

Wake up Ron...Planet earth is calling. You need to turn your spaceship around and come back home.

Crusher · « **Reply #38 on:** March 31, 2006, 08:10:22 AM »

<<the Olympia is not in trouble for 2006. It will be at the Orleans, it will be fun, and like I said before, almost everyone that was there last year will be back again this year. >>

That, my friend, like the NOC, remains to be seen. Obviously, all those people you spoke with last year, Ron, are not on this board. The consensus is, from those of us who were there and endured the debacle, is that another round of the same is not worth the price of admission. It sucked last year, the same thing is being offered this year - so, what? Now it's supposed to be fun and exciting? Because why? A few people from last year said they would come back?

Let's get something straight, the Olympia - when Joe Weider was involved, and Wayne ran it - was the best thing in bodybuilding. Today it SUCKS because the guy who writes the checks is an executive who can't turn a profit and is probably going to be out of a job before long. Hid focus is not the Olympia. That's why it will not be fun, it will not be exciting, there will be nothing new, Ronnie will win again, and everyone who goes will complain - again.

bigdumbbell · « **Reply #39 on:** March 31, 2006, 08:16:26 AM »

it will be fun?

MB · « **Reply #40 on:** March 31, 2006, 09:11:34 AM »

Quote

Let's get something straight, the Olympia - when Joe Weider was involved, and Wayne ran it - was the best thing in bodybuilding. Today it SUCKS because the guy who writes the checks is an executive who can't turn a profit and is probably going to be out of a job before long.

Very true. When Wayne ran the Olympia, it was first class all the way. A good example is the VIP banquet. When Wayne ran the show it was a full coarse meal in a huge room, the food was great. Last year, AMI served finger foods. The competitors came in after the show ready to pig out because there was no European Tour and they had to eat miniature hot dogs and crackers. Talk about missing the target audience! AMI's sole concern is profit, which is evident in almost every aspect of the show.

Chick · « **Reply #41 on:** March 31, 2006, 09:26:45 AM »

The VIP "party" sucked....

and no, there wasn't any "full course" meal served...it was a buffet style set up with chicken, potato, salad, pasta, fish, etc....just what you're looking to eat after dieting for 14 weeks with the same foods...

If I were running the VIP party, I'd have some damn pizza's, wings, finger foods, deserts, etc.

Adam Empire · « **Reply #42 on:** March 31, 2006, 09:34:30 AM »

Quote from: Chick on March 31, 2006, 09:26:45 AM

The VIP "party" sucked....

and no, there wasn't any "full course" meal served...it was a buffet style set up with chicken, potato, salad, pasta, fish, etc....just what you're looking to eat after dieting for 14 weeks with the same foods...

If I were running the VIP party, I'd have some damn pizza's, wings, finger foods, deserts, etc.

I don't agree with Chick on many things, but this I do. How much does pizza cost anyway - give the guys what they want!

bigdumbbell · « **Reply #43 on:** March 31, 2006, 09:36:42 AM »

Quote from: Adam Empire on March 31, 2006, 09:34:30 AM

I don't agree with Chick on many things, but this I do. How much does pizza cost anyway - give the guys what they want!

oh i know we have focaccia, brochetta, calzone, and vienna pastries at our VP functions

youandme · « **Reply #44 on:** March 31, 2006, 09:50:03 AM »

Quote from: Chick on March 31, 2006, 09:26:45 AM

The VIP "party" sucked....

and no, there wasn't any "full course" meal served...it was a buffet style set up with chicken, potato, salad, pasta, fish, etc....just what you're looking to eat after dieting for 14 weeks with the same foods...

If I were running the VIP party, I'd have some damn pizza's, wings, finger foods, deserts, etc.

haha Bob your starting to think about food now from the dieting. And thanks for making me think about it

onlyme · « **Reply #45 on:** March 31, 2006, 11:15:17 AM »

AT my show I had one of the most popular restauarants in Honolulu cater the pump-up room. The competitors got to all they wanted. We had chicken, pork, rice, cheescake, pizza, fruit, hamburger steak, potatoes, egg rolls, cake and lots of different drinks

LuciusFox · « **Reply #46 on:** March 31, 2006, 11:22:17 AM »

Quote from: onlyme on March 31, 2006, 11:15:17 AM

AT my show I had one of the most popular restauarants in Honolulu cater the pump-up room. The competitors got to all they wanted. We had chicken, pork, rice, cheescake, pizza, fruit, hamburger steak, potatoes, egg rolls, cake and lots of different drinks

The competitors that I talked to didn't remember you having "hamburger steak".

CQ · « **Reply #47 on:** March 31, 2006, 11:25:00 AM »

The party after the Central American IFBB amateurs is top class.

Full buffet with everything imaginable, open bar, live band etc..

onlyme · « **Reply #48 on:** March 31, 2006, 11:56:16 AM »

Quote from: LuciusFox on March 31, 2006, 11:22:17 AM

The competitors that I talked to didn't remember you having "hamburger steak".

We did have it. Here is Hawaii it is a patty over rice covered with gravy and sometimes an egg. It's called a Loco Moco.

bigdumbbell · « **Reply #49 on:** March 31, 2006, 11:59:16 AM »

Quote from: onlyme on March 31, 2006, 11:56:16 AM

We did have it. Here is Hawaii it is a patty over rice covered with gravy and sometimes an egg. It's called a Loco Moco.

did you have spam too?