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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #10250 on: May 11, 2026, 07:44:57 AM »
The chart shows $185,000 - $537,560 for Americans ages 55-64 and $200,000 - $609,230 for Americans ages 65-74.  That's in no way, shape, or form "very little" as you claimed.

$130,000 for Americans in their 30s isn't "very little" either.  It takes time in the market for compound interest to produce wealth.

Your original post said nothing about retirement, but the article you posted as your source does.  How much is enough for retirement depends on so many variables:  Do they also have a pension, an annuity, rental income, social security, what's their lifestyle like, what are their annual expenses, do they live in a low-cost of living area, etc., but that's not the point here.

The point is you claim "most" of those stock holders own "very little", but I'm not seeing that from your source.
You have an over optimistic view of American finances. Most are a couple  of paychecks away from disaster. Don't forget average debt:
https://www.experian.com/blogs/ask-experian/average-american-debt-by-age/

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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #10251 on: May 11, 2026, 08:57:52 AM »
You have an over optimistic view of American finances. Most are a couple  of paychecks away from disaster. Don't forget average debt:
https://www.experian.com/blogs/ask-experian/average-american-debt-by-age/

Ah, maybe so, maybe so.


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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #10252 on: May 11, 2026, 08:59:50 AM »
The fact that trump claimed he thought he market would correct a possible 25% based on the war in iran and it surprised him directly contradicts your posts though. He has almost no bearing on the market, maybe short term... very short term but even that is becoming uncoupled from his actions as no one trusts him to follow through on anything. The market is very irrational right now and his actions are likely leading to a huge energy crisis if one hasn't already begun. There is an inflection point coming based on reserves that could have some major consequences.
I don't follow politics but I can repeat everything the tv every told me bad about Trump.
Fixed for you little fella. :)
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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #10253 on: May 11, 2026, 11:38:11 AM »
You have an over optimistic view of American finances. Most are a couple  of paychecks away from disaster. Don't forget average debt:
https://www.experian.com/blogs/ask-experian/average-american-debt-by-age/

So you guys have gone from

Not even half the country benefits from the stock market to

Most of those stock holders own very little to

They don't own a lot for retirement

And now it's about the average American debt by age.  What does that have to do with the stock market?




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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #10254 on: May 11, 2026, 12:12:54 PM »
Fixed for you little fella. :)

Trump is retarded. This is a fact.

Therefore, ipso facto, anything he says can be assumed to be retarded.


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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #10255 on: May 11, 2026, 12:13:58 PM »
The fact that trump claimed he thought he market would correct a possible 25% based on the war in iran and it surprised him directly contradicts your posts though. He has almost no bearing on the market, maybe short term... very short term

Either you're a parrot or I'm a ventriloquist.   ;D

You think trump has any bearing on the stock market?

Long term, not likely.  Short term, absolutely.

You're just repeating to me what I've already told you before.  How is that a contradiction?

The market is very irrational right now

Yeah, so?  This is historically business as usual. In the stock market, irrationality isn't an anomaly.  It is a recurring, fundamental feature of the system.

If you think the current irrationality is a new phenomenon, you are ignoring history.

"The market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent."  Famed economist John Maynard Keynes

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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #10256 on: May 11, 2026, 01:38:32 PM »
Still have a ways to go, but….

Obviously the first one is from last week

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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #10257 on: May 11, 2026, 01:56:04 PM »
Still have a ways to go, but….

Obviously the first one is from last week

Iran will need to be done successfully and gas prices back down.

The thing is, the Democrats still have no plan, no message, no leadership, and nobody admirable - all dreck.
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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #10258 on: May 11, 2026, 05:08:54 PM »
Trump is retarded. This is a fact.

Therefore, ipso facto, anything he says can be assumed to be retarded.
Lie #11488  :)
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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #10259 on: Today at 12:20:11 AM »
Trump is retarded. This is a fact.

Therefore, ipso facto, anything he says can be assumed to be retarded.

What a dumb thing to say. 

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« Reply #10260 on: Today at 05:00:20 AM »
Either you're a parrot or I'm a ventriloquist.   ;D

You're just repeating to me what I've already told you before.  How is that a contradiction?

Yeah, so?  This is historically business as usual. In the stock market, irrationality isn't an anomaly.  It is a recurring, fundamental feature of the system.

If you think the current irrationality is a new phenomenon, you are ignoring history.

"The market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent."  Famed economist John Maynard Keynes

I know you said it and I am referencing that quote obviously as tongue in cheek. You like Keynes? wouldn't have thought that.

Obviously this stuff moves on a gradient, there are degrees of irrationality. There have been bubbles based on extreme irrationality that absolutely does not keep the market solvent unless propped up and to various degrees- black swans occur and represent the non-linear nature of the market.

But if you are posting that Trump is winning because of said stock market and the man is saying that he expected a strong correction how can you attribute these increases to him? you cannot, he does not. It's not his doing as he is directly doing things that should (according to him and every reasonable person) have the opposite effect.

He effects the market short term with tweets and lies but policy? I mean tariffs caused a massive sell-off. The only time I have seen the market move was from bullshit like the tariffs are off (undoing the harm he did directly).

That is my point. To have an actual discussion I dont think we can sum up positions in 6 words, loco. What do you mean by short term? months?


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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #10261 on: Today at 05:04:13 AM »
What a dumb thing to say.


Lol, I am so in your heads it's not funny. you follow me around posting and reacting to every troll I make hahahahahaha.

I'll go easier on you moving forward. I think you need a new angle, the gibberish thing made you look like your comprehension was the problem, the liar thing is a copy of chaos. I would suggest actually trying to refute my serious posts but we both know you can't do that.

Trump is bragging about identifying a cat and a duck and made up a lie about the math question like someone in grade 6 would do lol. Embarrassing!

He is not very bright, just willing to do evil shit to get what he wants. Like rug pull americans for their money.

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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #10262 on: Today at 05:06:14 AM »
Lie #11488  :)

he may actually meet the criteria. I heard they use pictures instead of written documents because he doesn't read. That's sign one of possible full on beast mode retardation. I will post others as this convo progresses.

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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #10263 on: Today at 06:39:50 AM »
he may actually meet the criteria. I heard they use pictures instead of written documents because he doesn't read. That's sign one of possible full on beast mode retardation. I will post others as this convo progresses.
I heard you suck dick for loons in truck stops. That sign one of full on beast mode faggotry.
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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #10264 on: Today at 07:54:58 AM »
I heard you suck dick for loons in truck stops. That sign one of full on beast mode faggotry.

You have a little crush on me don't you? lol

I would probably have one as well tbh.

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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #10265 on: Today at 08:13:50 AM »
But if you are posting that Trump is winning because of said stock market

Are you triggered by those posts?   :D

My posts are to mock the many unfulfilled predictions that Trump was for sure gonna sink the US economy and stock market soon after starting office.  Many even set July 4, 2025 as one of the dates this would happen.  "Liberation Day," April 2, 2025 was another one.  It never happened.  Instead, the US economy and stock market are booming.  If it were a Dem president, Dems would be cheering and taking credit.  Because it's happening on Trump's watch, then no, it has nothing to do with Trump; that's impossible.   ::)

If fact, the Iran war has been bad news for international stocks and good news for US stocks:

In Iran fallout, US shares hold up better than global rivals
https://www.reuters.com/business/iran-fallout-us-shares-hold-up-better-than-global-rivals-now-2026-03-24/


US Market Takes Upper Hand Amid Iran War as International Stock Rally Reverses
https://www.morningstar.com/markets/us-market-takes-upper-hand-amid-iran-war-international-stock-rally-reverses


US stocks dubbed 'safe haven' as Iran war escalates
https://www.tradingview.com/news/invezz:16d8a5e71094b:0-us-stocks-dubbed-safe-haven-as-iran-war-escalates/



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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #10266 on: Today at 08:38:46 AM »
So you guys have gone from

Not even half the country benefits from the stock market to

Most of those stock holders own very little to

They don't own a lot for retirement

And now it's about the average American debt by age.  What does that have to do with the stock market?




What good is it to have $100,000 in stock if you have $100,000 in debt as well? It all ties together. Most people are not doing well financially. The stock market doesn't give a clear view of this plus government props up the market as well.

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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #10267 on: Today at 08:40:31 AM »
What good is it to have $100,000 in stock if you have $100,000 in debt as well? It all ties together. Most people are not doing well financially. The stock market doesn't give a clear view of this plus government props up the market as well.

Because if the investments are earning more than the interest on the debt, you win.
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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #10268 on: Today at 08:43:16 AM »
Because if the investments are earning more than the interest on the debt, you win.

Exactly.  It's sad so many here don't understand simple, personal finance and investing.

For anyone interested, here is a free, very short book on simple investing:

https://www.etf.com/docs/IfYouCan.pdf

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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #10269 on: Today at 09:24:28 AM »
Trump is retarded. This is a fact.

Therefore, ipso facto, anything he says can be assumed to be retarded.



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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #10270 on: Today at 10:05:03 AM »
You have a little crush on me don't you? lol

I would probably have one as well tbh.
I have a thing for bitches. What can I say.
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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #10271 on: Today at 11:01:43 AM »
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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #10272 on: Today at 11:05:14 AM »
Are you triggered by those posts?   :D

My posts are to mock the many unfulfilled predictions that Trump was for sure gonna sink the US economy and stock market soon after starting office.  Many even set July 4, 2025 as one of the dates this would happen.  "Liberation Day," April 2, 2025 was another one.  It never happened.  Instead, the US economy and stock market are booming.  If it were a Dem president, Dems would be cheering and taking credit.  Because it's happening on Trump's watch, then no, it has nothing to do with Trump; that's impossible.   ::)

If fact, the Iran war has been bad news for international stocks and good news for US stocks:

In Iran fallout, US shares hold up better than global rivals
https://www.reuters.com/business/iran-fallout-us-shares-hold-up-better-than-global-rivals-now-2026-03-24/


US Market Takes Upper Hand Amid Iran War as International Stock Rally Reverses
https://www.morningstar.com/markets/us-market-takes-upper-hand-amid-iran-war-international-stock-rally-reverses


US stocks dubbed 'safe haven' as Iran war escalates
https://www.tradingview.com/news/invezz:16d8a5e71094b:0-us-stocks-dubbed-safe-haven-as-iran-war-escalates/





The economy is not the stock market. I am canadian and I own US stocks. It's far more global than you are letting on, which is why you can't use it as a barometer of the health of the economy solely, which you are doing because there isn't anything else you could point to. Even then, the thing you are claiming is clearly not do to Trump, namely for the reasons I posted above.

He reversed liberation day as bonds were being sold off like hot cakes.

Under what metrics is the economy booming? you had multiple months of job loss, increased inflation amongst other things. You guys had to bail out farmers using tax payer money and have seen certain industries buckle in roughly a year.

You are living in la la land.

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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #10273 on: Today at 11:05:54 AM »
Please check on your patients, Dr. Necrosis.

Mrs. Feinbaum in Room 220 is having a heart attack.

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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #10274 on: Today at 11:07:16 AM »
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Trump wouldn't lie and grift!! there will be phones.

You have christians supporting a morally bankrupt man, USA is an idiocracy. I can't wait for what comes next!