Trump = Winning

[Van_Bilderass]

I was not referring to the nuclear material.

I was referring about the amassing of missiles and drones, their ability to reach the UK, and what their plans were, according the intelligence he saw.

Trump said Iran could have missiles, that you couldn't demand they do away with their missile program. Too lazy to look it up again, but from recollection it went something like that. If Iran had no missiles it would mean they could and would be overthrown immediately, especially by Israel.

Iran has had advanced missiles for a long time, they haven't used them to attack any country. Sure you could say they would be free to develop nukes under a massive missile umbrella but would they want nukes? It's not an automatic yes in my mind. If one says they are religious fanatics, then how about their religious decree, the Fatwa, against nukes because they are against Islam in their mind? Because they are indiscriminate, because they threaten to cause MAD.

Israel is the country with the Samson option. Some would say an atheist, Godless "option."

I think nukes are Satanic. They should not exist.

"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds"

- J. Robert Oppenheimer (not a Muslim, a Jew)

Did a quick google and found this:

I In October 1945, a guilt-ridden Oppenheimer met with President Harry S. Truman and famously confessed, "Mr. President, I have blood on my hands," to which Truman later dismissed him as a "cry-baby scientist"

[Grape Ape]

You're right. I haven’t really dug into Kennedy’s funding. Total contributions are one way to measure influence, but I’m extremely skeptical of foreign lobbyists. They could easily hide donations if they wanted to, or stay mostly on the sidelines and then ramp up quickly if he faces a serious challenger or decides to run nationally.

Well, AIPAC is domestic, and I get why critics say it might not be, but I totally get your point.

I said DAY ONE after Oct 7th that Israel was going to go further than they ever have, and they did.

Didn't expect so many folks to side with Hamas though.

[Grape Ape]

Trump said Iran could have missiles, that you couldn't demand they do away with their missile program. Too lazy to look it up again, but from recollection it went something like that. If Iran had no missiles it would mean they could and would be overthrown immediately, especially by Israel.

Iran has had advanced missiles for a long time, they haven't used them to attack any country. Sure you could say they would be free to develop nukes under a massive missile umbrella but would they want nukes? It's not an automatic yes in my mind. If one says they are religious fanatics, then how about their religious decree, the Fatwa, against nukes because they are against Islam in their mind? Because they are indiscriminate, because they threaten to cause MAD.

Israel is the country with the Samson option. Some would say an atheist, Godless "option."

I think nukes are Satanic. They should not exist.

"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds"

- J. Robert Oppenheimer (not a Muslim, a Jew)

Did a quick google and found this:

This has nothing to do with the context of Kennedy's comments, which was the discussion.

As far as the so called fatwa is concerned, it's likely flexible political rhetoric.  There nothing written or in text.

And they're reversible anyway.

So, once again, fuck Iran's regime.

[GymnJuice]

Well, AIPAC is domestic, and I get why critics say it might not be, but I totally get your point.

I said DAY ONE after Oct 7th that Israel was going to go further than they ever have, and they did.

Didn't expect so many folks to side with Hamas though.

Israel had to go further after that. If I try to put myself in Israeli shoes, I can understand the feeling of being under an existential threat and the need to protect their borders. At the same time, as an American, I also see that the Israelis aren’t Arabs and when I look at a map that the land looks like "Arab land" to me. (I'm going to ignore the hypocrisy of what we did to the Indians ) But then there were also the Jewish people who went from other Arab countries to Israel who were really from that part of the world to begin with. That makes the whole situation feel incredibly complex to me, because neither side is simply going to disappear. I’m pessimistic that the region will ever have lasting peace, since I don’t see any real solution. That’s partly why I think staying out of it is our best move.

I don’t personally know anyone who sides with Hamas. I do know people who are against Israel, and others who are basically neutral and just want to stay out of it.

[Grape Ape]

Israel had to go further after that. If I try to put myself in Israeli shoes, I can understand the feeling of being under an existential threat and the need to protect their borders. At the same time, as an American, I also see that the Israelis aren’t Arabs and when I look at a map that the land looks like "Arab land" to me. (I'm going to ignore the hypocrisy of what we did to the Indians ) But then there were also the Jewish people who went from other Arab countries to Israel who were really from that part of the world to begin with. That makes the whole situation feel incredibly complex to me, because neither side is simply going to disappear. I’m pessimistic that the region will ever have lasting peace, since I don’t see any real solution. That’s partly why I think staying out of it is our best move.

I don’t personally know anyone who sides with Hamas. I do know people who are against Israel, and others who are basically neutral and just want to stay out of it.

There were always be conflict because that's all the Arabs know.

I don't know anyone personally who sides with Hamas either, but there's enough videos out there, although most are likely just the same brand of useful idiot we've seen who don't really understand any of it.

[chaos]

There were always be conflict because that's all the Arabs know.

This is why whenever we go over there we either need to be over the top aggressive or stay out.

[Primemuscle]

Anytime you want to compare portfolios old man let me know. Haven’t seen you posting was hoping the worst for you.

-not interested in having a pissing match with you. I don't now nor have I ever given a rat's ass over your supposed great wealth.

I was not here (logged into Getbig) because I was in Germany celebrating my son's 50th birthday and spending time with my "German" family. I got home just in time to enjoy election night on CNN and FOX. Blue tsunami!

[deadz]

-not interested in having a pissing match with you. I don't now nor have I ever given a rat's ass over your supposed great wealth.

I was not here (logged into Getbig) because I was in Germany celebrating my son's 50th birthday and spending time with my "German" family. I got home just in time to enjoy election night on CNN and FOX. Blue tsunami!

You would be severely embarrassed comparing whats in your accounts compared to mine. Fuck the tsunami, Trump AKA Mr. Veto, will put a stop to the tsunami!

[Primemuscle]

You would be severely embarrassed comparing whats in your accounts compared to mine. Fuck the tsunami, Trump AKA Mr. Veto, will put a stop to the tsunami!

Why would I be embarrassed? Like I said, your wealth does not impress me. Nobody's does. Money comes and goes. I’ve always been far more impressed by mensches than millionaires, because true status comes from how you treat people, not how much you own.

As for Trump's veto power, guess we will see how that works out during the next two years. Will the House and the Senate override his vetoes? I don't know for sure, but there is always hope.

[deadz]

Why would I be embarrassed? Like I said, your wealth does not impress me. Nobody's does. Money comes and goes. I’ve always been far more impressed by mensches than millionaires, because true status comes from how you treat people, not how much you own.

As for Trump's veto power, guess we will see how that works out during the next two years. Will the House and the Senate override his vetoes? I don't know for sure, but there is always hope.

Not trying to impress anyone, fact is I don't lie about what I post here, liars disgust me almost as much as Libs!

[chaos]

Not trying to impress anyone, fact is I don't lie about what I post here, liars disgust me almost as much as Libs!

Same thing

[deadz]

Same thing

TRUE

[Primemuscle]

Not trying to impress anyone, fact is I don't lie about what I post here, liars disgust me almost as much as Libs!

Hmmm, it seems like you are trying to impress folks. Otherwise, why bring it up so often.

Did I suggest you were lying? Sorry if I did. I also do not lie about what I post here. I can't tolerate liars and once they lie, it becomes impossible for me to believe anything they say without questioning it. On the other hand, some of my best friends are politically liberal, but other friends are politically conservative, neither of which disgusts me. 

[deadz]

Hmmm, it seems like you are trying to impress folks. Otherwise, why bring it up so often.

Did I suggest you were lying? Sorry if I did. I also do not lie about what I post here. I can't tolerate liars and once they lie, it becomes impossible for me to believe anything they say without questioning it. On the other hand, some of my best friends are politically liberal, but other friends are politically conservative, neither of which disgusts me.

If you look at the posts where I mention my wealth look at the posts quoted or previous posts and you will find I don't mention it unless provoked.

[Primemuscle]

If you look at the posts where I mention my wealth look at the posts quoted or previous posts and you will find I don't mention it unless provoked.

-Interesting to know. What exactly provokes you to talk about it? I will try to avoid doing this in the future.

This is what I posted when when I interjected myself into a conversation between Illuminati and Necrosis:

Or so DEADZ says. The irony of social media platforms on the internet is that anyone can be anything they want to be and nobody is the wiser. You even said as much, if I remember correctly.

Where's the provocation?

[chaos]

-Interesting to know. What exactly provokes you to talk about it? I will try to avoid doing this in the future.

This is what I posted when when I interjected myself into a conversation between Illuminati and Necrosis:

Where's the provocation?

Over there, next to your common sense.

[Primemuscle]

Over there, next to your common sense.

Thanks for clearing this up. I pride myself on having some degree of common sense some of the time, particularly those times it kept and keeps me out of trouble in the future. Does common sense diminish with old age? I hope not because I expect to live a long time.