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A little point about the Immigration issue
« on: February 06, 2017, 07:43:02 AM »
People seem to be overlooking the fact that Somali, Sudanese and Iranians are fucking scumbags.  Why are people upset they aren't allowed in this country?  I feel sympathy towards the Syrians since the USA/Israel put them in that mess in the first place, but who gives a fuck about Somali scum who basically just steal as a living.

If Trump is serious about bringing jobs back to Americans he needs to also include banning Indians and Chinese.  They're the true cancer of America.

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Re: A little point about the Immigration issue
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2017, 08:01:24 AM »
^THIS^

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Re: A little point about the Immigration issue
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2017, 08:14:01 AM »

If Trump is serious about bringing jobs back to Americans he needs to also include banning Indians and Chinese.  They're the true cancer of America.

Trump targets tech's H-1B visa hiring tool

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2017/01/30/trump-targets-techs-h1b-visa-hiring-tool/97240588/

SAN FRANCISCO — President Trump's relationship with Silicon Valley has always been volatile at best, but it seems things soon may get even more contentious.

Administration officials have drafted a new executive order aimed at overhauling, among other things, the H-1B work-visa program that technology companies have long relied on to bring top foreign engineering talent to their U.S.-based locations.
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Re: A little point about the Immigration issue
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2017, 08:17:16 AM »
We are a sovereign country with borders. No one has the right to come here from another country.  Legal immigration only.  America first. 

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Re: A little point about the Immigration issue
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2017, 08:32:38 AM »
People seem to be overlooking the fact that Somali, Sudanese and Iranians are fucking scumbags.  Why are people upset they aren't allowed in this country?  I feel sympathy towards the Syrians since the USA/Israel put them in that mess in the first place, but who gives a fuck about Somali scum who basically just steal as a living.

If Trump is serious about bringing jobs back to Americans he needs to also include banning Indians and Chinese.  They're the true cancer of America.

Go through the process of legalization then they can come.

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Re: A little point about the Immigration issue
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2017, 08:41:37 AM »
We are a sovereign country with borders. No one has the right to come here from another country.  Legal immigration only.  America first. 

Period.

This is all a bigger picture issue.  Regular people outraged about Trump doing this are idiots being manipulated by forces they don't understand.

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Re: A little point about the Immigration issue
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2017, 08:53:55 AM »
Apparently this ban thing wasnt even trumps idea, it was already on the table for him to look at and he had to sign off on it. This is what Nigel Farage said on tv the other day in support of the idea saying the UK needs the something similar.  He also said nowhere in the proposition does it mention ban or Muslim.  

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Re: A little point about the Immigration issue
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2017, 08:59:12 AM »
Also if Trump wants to secure America, some of the worst criminals and scum are coming in from Russia and former CCCP block.  Why isn't he stopping them?

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Re: A little point about the Immigration issue
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2017, 09:24:59 AM »
Also if Trump wants to secure America, some of the worst criminals and scum are coming in from Russia and former CCCP block.  Why isn't he stopping them?

any former soviet bloc countries, a disgusting lot of people all of them

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Re: A little point about the Immigration issue
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2017, 09:29:42 AM »
Also if Trump wants to secure America, some of the worst criminals and scum are coming in from Russia and former CCCP block.  Why isn't he stopping them?

Are they being funded by Soros?

If so, then yes, we don't want them either.
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Re: A little point about the Immigration issue
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2017, 09:30:35 AM »
Ban Indians and Chinese, God you must be a stupid loser. Ban the most educated and skilled immigrant groups because dumbass like you can replace them lol

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Re: A little point about the Immigration issue
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2017, 09:39:22 AM »
Ban Indians and Chinese, God you must be a stupid loser. Ban the most educated and skilled immigrant groups because dumbass like you can replace them lol

It's american jobs asshole.  Fuck giving away work to chinese and indians.  let those smelly fucks live in their country. I take it you're a smelly paki?

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Re: A little point about the Immigration issue
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2017, 09:48:52 AM »
I have been on this board for years and your posts reek of insecurity. You are an average worker Joe with very little skills and you have a shitty sucky dead end job. You think by banning the world you are going to get richer (shame you are not an economist). Wow what a smart individual degrading them because they smell (how witty of you).

Have you ever run a business? Of course not! For those of us who have i can tell you it is close to impossible to getting the skilled workers you need. I am in the UK and would hire a British guy anytime over a foreigner but unfortunately they don't have the skills or you can't get the talent in the first place - this is especially true in I.T/Software field. I have had countless CVs from talented Indians and in the end was forced to hire many of them. You think your shitty lazy dumb obese population has the skills to compete in areas that require real expertise? You are beyond delusional. Moreover, 2nd to 3rd Gen Indians are fucking awesome workers, do as many hours as you request and smart as hell (don't know about the Chinese but i assume they are the same). Just look at Silicon Valley to see how well these immigrant groups do.

Pathetic racist blaming his shitty skills on immigrant groups.

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Re: A little point about the Immigration issue
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2017, 09:52:58 AM »
I know this is a touchy subject for Americans, but without well-educated and skilled workers from India and China it will be hard for America to stay competitive with the global market. Imagine if Einstein wasn't allowed into the US during WW2 because Germans weren't allowed to migrate or the government made it very difficult to do so. Einstein would have either ended up in a gas chamber or made the A-bomb for the Germans. That's an extreme example, I know, but American business and military success comes from taking the smartest people from around the world and giving them an opportunity they wouldn't have gotten back home. America has more resources (financial and otherwise), which gives smart people the chance to put their brains to work to their full capacity, which is a win for America because it gets the reap the benefits of technological advancement.
I guess short-term hiring Americans only would help the middle class in the US, but long-term it will drive technological advancement down. American Universities will educate the next generation of leaders who will go back to India, China, Eastern Euro, etc... who will use their new knowledge to better those countries. That's great news for those countries. Not so great news for America, being used as an information juice box.

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Re: A little point about the Immigration issue
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2017, 09:56:31 AM »
I know this is a touchy subject for Americans, but without well-educated and skilled workers from India and China it will be hard for America to stay competitive with the global market. Imagine if Einstein wasn't allowed into the US during WW2 because Germans weren't allowed to migrate or the government made it very difficult to do so. Einstein would have either ended up in a gas chamber or made the A-bomb for the Germans. That's an extreme example, I know, but American business and military success comes from taking the smartest people from around the world and giving them an opportunity they wouldn't have gotten back home. America has more resources (financial and otherwise), which gives smart people the chance to put their brains to work to their full capacity, which is a win for America because it gets the reap the benefits of technological advancement.
I guess short-term hiring Americans only would help the middle class in the US, but long-term it will drive technological advancement down. American Universities will educate the next generation of leaders who will go back to India, China, Eastern Euro, etc... who will use their new knowledge to better those countries. That's great news for those countries. Not so great news for America, being used as an information juice box.

Good post but trust me we are wasting our time. This Getbig and it caters to the lower dredges of society.

A good point about University growth in the UK is pretty much attributed to foreign students and the extortionate fees they are charged. They come in their droves, get highly educated because they are driven and smart and you want to send this talent back home? Lol give me a break. Not even the slightest clue on how economic prosperity works. Blame culture is thriving in the US.

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Re: A little point about the Immigration issue
« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2017, 09:58:07 AM »
No no no. Saudi's and Paki's are the real scumbags. Incinerate those two countries and everybody wins.
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Re: A little point about the Immigration issue
« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2017, 11:49:19 AM »
People seem to be overlooking the fact that Somali, Sudanese and Iranians are fucking scumbags.  Why are people upset they aren't allowed in this country?  I feel sympathy towards the Syrians since the USA/Israel put them in that mess in the first place, but who gives a fuck about Somali scum who basically just steal as a living.

If Trump is serious about bringing jobs back to Americans he needs to also include banning Indians and Chinese.  They're the true cancer of America.

It's nice that you feel some sympathy for the Syrians on the basis that we played a big hand in creating 'that mess', but if that is your rationale, then you might perhaps want to look a little deeper into the history of our dealings with some of the other countries on the list, too. I did a quick search and found that:

The U.S government supported the brutal dictator Siad Barre in Somalia since the 1970's, after the Soviet Union started backing Ethiopia. From then up until 1991, the U.S sent hundreds of millions of dollars worth of arms to the country in return for the right to use their military facilities and set up its own bases and secret prisons, which were used to support interventions in the Middle East. They then ignored the repeated warnings from the U.N and various NGOs and charities throughout the 1980's that fuelling this regime would lead to disaster. It did, and thousands of civilians were killed before all-out civil war erupted in 1988 - leading to widespread famine and massacres throughout the country. When the U.S- backed regime was finally overthrown in 1991, the country plunged into anarchy. Let’s not forget the infamous 'Black Hawk Down' incident in 1993, where most credible reports put the Somali death toll in the region of a few thousand, and CIA officials conceded in private that as many as 7-10 thousand may have been killed as U.S forces opened fire indiscriminately on civilians. Move forward to around 2011 where years of constant fighting, drought, and lack of aid meant that around 3 million Somalis, 1-in-3 of them being children, were now suffering from severe malnutrition, and the U.N declared a famine. Around quarter of a million people died, and now, in 2017, almost 3 million are still in crisis and face severe food insecurity - but don't worry, they’re all a bunch of fucking scumbags.

Also, don't bother feeling any sympathy for the 1998 U.S bombing of Sudan, when the Al-shifa pharmaceutical factory was destroyed by missiles because of an unjustified and erroneous belief that it was producing chemical weapons. What it was producing, was the country's supply of TB drugs - for over 100,000 people, all the veterinary drugs for what is a predominantly pastoralist country - including the drugs needed to kill parasites which account for the majority of infant deaths, and about half of the affordable medicine needed by the population to treat otherwise fatal medical conditions. Also ignore the fact that before this attack, Sudan had arrested and held two individuals believed to be responsible for the bombing of the U.S embassies and had notified Washington. But the U.S rejected this offer of cooperation as well as turned down the offer of a vast amount of information on Bin Laden and more than 200 key members of his Al-Qaeda network in the years preceding the 9/11 attacks - leading one senior CIA source to describe this and other rejections of Sudanese offers of cooperation as 'the worst single intelligence failure in this whole terrible business'.

Don't worry, though. We have elected the man who is going to sort this entire debacle out. Trump has the intelligence to see that the key to stopping terrorist attacks from happening here is to revoke tens of thousands of visas from citizens of seven countries that have never been responsible for a single American death on home shores, and to forget about the countries responsible for 93% of all U.S terrorism. Doesn't really matter, though - appearing to do something will be enough to get his supporters whooping and cheering about 'making America great again'.


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Re: A little point about the Immigration issue
« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2017, 12:49:49 PM »
Yes, but still fuck the somalis.  they are total scum

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Re: A little point about the Immigration issue
« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2017, 12:54:13 PM »
I have been on this board for years and your posts reek of insecurity. You are an average worker Joe with very little skills and you have a shitty sucky dead end job. You think by banning the world you are going to get richer (shame you are not an economist). Wow what a smart individual degrading them because they smell (how witty of you).

Have you ever run a business? Of course not! For those of us who have i can tell you it is close to impossible to getting the skilled workers you need. I am in the UK and would hire a British guy anytime over a foreigner but unfortunately they don't have the skills or you can't get the talent in the first place - this is especially true in I.T/Software field. I have had countless CVs from talented Indians and in the end was forced to hire many of them. You think your shitty lazy dumb obese population has the skills to compete in areas that require real expertise? You are beyond delusional. Moreover, 2nd to 3rd Gen Indians are fucking awesome workers, do as many hours as you request and smart as hell (don't know about the Chinese but i assume they are the same). Just look at Silicon Valley to see how well these immigrant groups do.

Pathetic racist blaming his shitty skills on immigrant groups.

The problem comes down to the education system.  There are some pros but mostly cons.  Indians and chinks that come here spend 4 years in a highly technical university so all they know is in a blurred tunnel. Ask them to think outside and they're useless.  The American system doesn't teach in a tunnel but it's too broad.  I want to be in engineering but I need to take certain electives to make me well rounded.  I get it and it's important but the focus shifted too much away from the key studies.  I laugh when I see people get a full ride to a top school like Harvard and waste it on a 4 year philosophy degree.  it's the lazy American mentality.  My Sugar mama Betsy Devos will fix this though.

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Re: A little point about the Immigration issue
« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2017, 01:56:22 PM »
Ban Indians and Chinese, God you must be a stupid loser. Ban the most educated and skilled immigrant groups because dumbass like you can replace them lol
I believe Nigerians might be the most educated immigrant group.

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Re: A little point about the Immigration issue
« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2017, 02:04:48 PM »
I believe Nigerians might be the most educated immigrant group.

only because of us(British), Nigerians are keeping the Dandy culture alive

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Re: A little point about the Immigration issue
« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2017, 02:11:38 PM »
People seem to be overlooking the fact that Somali, Sudanese and Iranians are fucking scumbags.  Why are people upset they aren't allowed in this country?  I feel sympathy towards the Syrians since the USA/Israel put them in that mess in the first place, but who gives a fuck about Somali scum who basically just steal as a living.

If Trump is serious about bringing jobs back to Americans he needs to also include banning Indians and Chinese.  They're the true cancer of America.

I don't people have a clue of what scum is coming into their countries in this day and age, or they don't give a shit until they have to deal with these people IRL

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Re: A little point about the Immigration issue
« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2017, 02:12:27 PM »
I believe Nigerians might be the most educated immigrant group.

LOL are you being serious. That is not true whatsoever.

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Re: A little point about the Immigration issue
« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2017, 02:19:19 PM »
I believe Nigerians might be the most educated immigrant group.

They sure have huge numbers of princes and generals who will graciously donate millions to your bank account if you only pay a small fee.

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Re: A little point about the Immigration issue
« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2017, 02:21:08 PM »
LOL are you being serious. That is not true whatsoever.

uhmm... maybe if you only count certain African countries? like the worst of them