Do you think anyone wanted to mess with Tyson in prison?

[robcguns]

You're trolling right?

You think there were tougher guys than Tyson in his prison?

Do you also think if Bill Kazmier was imprisoned during his peak of strongman that there would have been stronger guys locked up?

He was in the prime of his career. There was no one in that prison that could beat him in a straight fight. There were only a handful of men on the planet at that time who could beat him.

He was the most feared man on the planet at the time, and don't give me the old line that guys in prison had no fear because if that were true they'd have been shot dead not imprisoned.

You really think Tyson was the toughest guy ever?many guys you have never heard of could whoop his ass.And yes I think there were stronger guys than kazmier in his prime.Just cause they don't compete or fight don't mean they are not better.If you don't think this you are delusional.There is always someone tougher,bigger and stronger and they don't have to be known.Not everyone gets famous at what they do.

[robcguns]

You're trolling right?

You think there were tougher guys than Tyson in his prison?

Do you also think if Bill Kazmier was imprisoned during his peak of strongman that there would have been stronger guys locked up?

He was in the prime of his career. There was no one in that prison that could beat him in a straight fight. There were only a handful of men on the planet at that time who could beat him.

He was the most feared man on the planet at the time, and don't give me the old line that guys in prison had no fear because if that were true they'd have been shot dead not imprisoned.

You really believe he was the toughest man on the planet?try going out in the back country in Russia and tell me you don't find a someone who could rip him apart in a fight.I met a guy about 15 years ago who worked out in his home gym 5'11 275 ish and I saw him bench 585 for 6 smooth reps.Guess what you have never heard of him.So yes there are stronger and tougher.and no I'm not saying the stronger guy is tougher just an example of a strong guy you never heard of.

[ESFitness]

Some of you people forget that fighting is a perishable skill. Nobody is "born" to fight. Its a set of skills that are developed. Tyson TRAINED. there's not a guy in prison that TRAINS like Tyson trains and has had the consistent coaching that Tyson has had by the time he went to prison. It's pretty damn foolish and really shows somebody's ignorance of what it takes to be a fighter whether it's boxing or MMA to really believe that somebody who's been imprisoned for years and hasn't fought in a real fight would be able to give Tyson trouble. Fights in prison are usually three or four punches total on both sides before somebody's either knocked out or it's broken up by guards. To see the otherwise really shows your ignorance meaning it shows you don't know what you're talking about. There's nobody in some Backcountry Siberia those trained daily buy some of the best coaches in the world and sparred against adequate sparring partners if not great and sparring partners consistently for years the weight Tyson had. You ever heard of ring rust? What compare the ring rust enticing not fighting for 6 months or a year and compare that ring rust to somebody who has probably never fought or trained for an actual fight. Being "stuff" doesn't equate skill and itndoesnt trump experience.

[Dave D]

You really think Tyson was the toughest guy ever?many guys you have never heard of could whoop his ass.And yes I think there were stronger guys than kazmier in his prime.Just cause they don't compete or fight don't mean they are not better.If you don't think this you are delusional.There is always someone tougher,bigger and stronger and they don't have to be known.Not everyone gets famous at what they do.

Of course there were guys who could beat Tyson, Buster Douglas did and Razor Ruddick gave him all he could handle. There wasn't anyone in that prison who was going to beat him in a fist fight.

I'm delusional because I say the best boxer in the world, someone who devoted and trained his whole life to be good at one particular skill plus had natural God given gifts, would beat any non professional fighter on the planet....... Whatever dude. Vic Richards would have beaten Dorian if he would have entered the contests.

You really believe he was the toughest man on the planet?try going out in the back country in Russia and tell me you don't find a someone who could rip him apart in a fight.I met a guy about 15 years ago who worked out in his home gym 5'11 275 ish and I saw him bench 585 for 6 smooth reps.Guess what you have never heard of him.So yes there are stronger and tougher.and no I'm not saying the stronger guy is tougher just an example of a strong guy you never heard of.

 

There might be someone "tougher" whos experienced more hardships and destitute living conditions. But that alone wont equal Tysons natural gifts and trained skills.

I have a work out partner, similar size as the guy you mentioned, who has benched 545 for 6 reps with ease. His squat numbers are even more impressive. Biggest strongest dude I know. He's never done a powerlifting meet but I guarantee you he wouldn't win a national event without training for it.

 I went to NAS nationals with him and he didnt win.  Mike Jenkins was at nationals that year and he didnt win either. Interestly enough no one just showed up to the show and won, the dude who won was an actual competitor.


I get what you're saying but you're being over the top. It's like saying the best high school qb is better than Tom Brady right now.

[Dave D]

Some of you people forget that fighting is a perishable skill. Nobody is "born" to fight. Its a set of skills that are developed. Tyson TRAINED. there's not a guy in prison that TRAINS like Tyson trains and has had the consistent coaching that Tyson has had by the time he went to prison. It's pretty damn foolish and really shows somebody's ignorance of what it takes to be a fighter whether it's boxing or MMA to really believe that somebody who's been imprisoned for years and hasn't fought in a real fight would be able to give Tyson trouble. Fights in prison are usually three or four punches total on both sides before somebody's either knocked out or it's broken up by guards. To see the otherwise really shows your ignorance meaning it shows you don't know what you're talking about. There's nobody in some Backcountry Siberia those trained daily buy some of the best coaches in the world and sparred against adequate sparring partners if not great and sparring partners consistently for years the weight Tyson had. You ever heard of ring rust? What compare the ring rust enticing not fighting for 6 months or a year and compare that ring rust to somebody who has probably never fought or trained for an actual fight. Being "stuff" doesn't equate skill and itndoesnt trump experience.

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[Megalodon]

Every member of Kazmaier's entire cell block each individually broke his WSM 1124 lbs Hungarian Farm Cart Deadlift record. So, yes, Tyson was probably beaten up routinely.

[Never1AShow]

You really think Tyson was the toughest guy ever?many guys you have never heard of could whoop his ass.And yes I think there were stronger guys than kazmier in his prime.Just cause they don't compete or fight don't mean they are not better.If you don't think this you are delusional.There is always someone tougher,bigger and stronger and they don't have to be known.Not everyone gets famous at what they do.

This is the Victor Richards myth, that if he chose to compete he'd destroy them all.  It was bull shot peddled by and sold to idiots.

Where I was we had a guy who used to spar with Larry Holmes.  He was one of the tougher guys and had a couple of boxing matches under his belt (I think pro, maybe amateur).  But he lost 1 or 2 and was nowhere in the league of a real pro.  It's a myth that these junkies and undisciplined lazy fucks are somehow hiding great world class athletes in their midst.

[Shizzo]

This is the Victor Richards myth, that if he chose to compete he'd destroy them all.  It was bull shot peddled by and sold to idiots.

Where I was we had a guy who used to spar with Larry Holmes.  He was one of the tougher guys and had a couple of boxing matches under his belt (I think pro, maybe amateur).  But he lost 1 or 2 and was nowhere in the league of a real pro.  It's a myth that these junkies and undisciplined lazy fucks are somehow hiding great world class athletes in their midst.

That being said, MMA isn't boxing. There are probably dudes out there, that would put the lights out of many people.

Sometimes it isn't about "talent", or how many hours you put in with a "team". It's about the killer instinct. You can't be afraid of losing.

[Earl1972]

i'm sure plenty messed with him

joe rogan said when chuck liddell and brock lesnar go out there is always some wannabe tough guy that says to them "i'm not afraid of you"

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[ESFitness]

Sometimes it isn't about "talent", or how many hours you put in with a "team". It's about the killer instinct. You can't be afraid of losing.

Wrong. A boxer with skills like Tyson who has practiced and practiced and practiced those skills and don't drill after drill so that moves Combos and faints are second nature and muscle memory takes over will never never never lose to somebody who lacks skills and only has a Killer Instinct. Because I Killer Instinct (and I don't know what the hell makes you think Tyson didn't have a killer instinct and bloodlust) means absolutely nothing when a guy is uncoordinated, sloppy,& slow with absolutely no timing to the punches or attacks.

[B R]

Anything to the contrary is just fools repeating their fantasy about what they see on tv.

Oh the irony!

[ratherbebig]

but isnt there a difference between a boxer and a street fighter

maybe tyson would be scared in a street fight, i remember him saying he was scared.

[Bevo]

I'm sure plenty of getbiggers can bench 500 for reps and go toe to toe with Tyson in his prime...

[Dave D]

This is a great thread by Darren. I can't tell who is trolling here.

People are convinced that Mike Tyson, who at the time was the best heavyweight boxer in the world, was bullied and beaten in prison.

And in the almost 30 years that have past since then not ONE story has emerged that documents this. Not even one inmate has attempted tell this type of story.

We also have a group of people that believes the best athletes in the world don't compete in sports.

 Lavar Ball was telling everyone his son is better than Steph Curry, which isn't far fetched because here we'd say the best basketball player in the world probably plays in a rec league in Alaska.

And by the way American prison isn't really like an episode of OZ.

[ratherbebig]

well let me put this straight:

1. fighting in boxing and outside of boxing isnt the same thing, tyson in a arranged boxing fight in prison would win against anybody, tyson getting attacked outta nowhere wouldnt necessarily win.

2. its surely possible that there's people out there who COULD be the best in the world in a sport, but they either compete in a different sport already or they dont compete at all, but they surely have the genetics for it. think about the worlds population, how many africans could do well in certain sports if they had the opportunity, coaches, training facilities etc.

[Dave D]

well let me put this straight:

1. fighting in boxing and outside of boxing isnt the same thing, tyson in a arranged boxing fight in prison would win against anybody, tyson getting attacked outta nowhere wouldnt necessarily win.

2. its surely possible that there's people out there who COULD be the best in the world in a sport, but they either compete in a different sport already or they dont compete at all, but they surely have the genetics for it. think about the worlds population, how many africans could do well in certain sports if they had the opportunity, coaches, training facilities etc.

COULD BE.
  Michael Jordan was considered the best basketball player, and athlete, in the world when he played. And when he walked away to play baseball after a 20 year layoff he wasn't close to being an average player let alone the best. And when he came back to basketball, after being away from the league for 18 months, he was shortly proven to be the best in the world again. No one closed the gap in his time away.........

Lebron James could be the best player in the NFL. He's not. Ironically he's also considered to be one of the best athletes on the planet so it's not far fetched to think a great athlete would be great at another sport.

Connor verus Floyd. This fight will be an interesting case study for the getbig theory. Connor is a great fighter Floyd is a great boxer.


COULD Tyson have been shanked in prison? Yes. But he wasn't. The question was did anyone mess with Tyson in prison. The answer, 30 years later, is no.

A street fight? You don't think a no name prisoner would have been more scared of MIKE TYSON than Mike was of them, even with a knife? Had anyone talking about these street fights actually stabbed someone?  I've been in my share of confrontation and I've never had a knife pulled and if I did Id run.

Real sports aren't like bodybuilding where only a small percentage of people compete.


For the record a man with a knife, bat, crow bar, brick or gun beats Tyson from 1990. But if it's a bare knuckle fight no one stands a chance.

Also would you please provide an example of a time when a PROFESSIONAL boxer was beaten up in a fight.

[Conker]

stupid thread and stupid responses. is there people in prison that could beat tyson in a street fight? very probably. but bullies tend to look for easy targets and no one is going to see tyson as an easy target. so is it likely that people messed with tyson in prison? pretty unlikely

[ratherbebig]

people fight with bouncers all the time, would bouncers be considered easy targets?

[Dave D]

people fight with bouncers all the time, would bouncers be considered easy targets?

Great example.

COULD Mike Tyson beat a bouncer in a street fight?

As a former bouncer I know it's only the best of the best and the absolute toughest guys in the world who do this job.

[Darren Avey]

Darren, you still haven't responded to my offer to pay you to let getbig film a group of black men having sex with you.

Did you still want that $100?

And what does "bring them around Tulisa's flat" mean?

EH? Tulisa? You mean the singer tart? Or so called singer? Eh? I'm confused.

[Darren Avey]

stupid thread and stupid responses. is there people in prison that could beat tyson in a street fight? very probably. but bullies tend to look for easy targets and no one is going to see tyson as an easy target. so is it likely that people messed with tyson in prison? pretty unlikely

Thanks for your input. You re the guy who reckons people would shit themselves if they met you! I don't shit myself when I see world class fighters in London Shootfighters so I don't think id shit myself when I see some bloated bodybuilder!

[Conker]

Thanks for your input. You re the guy who reckons people would shit themselves if they met you! I don't shit myself when I see world class fighters in London Shootfighters so I don't think id shit myself when I see some bloated bodybuilder!

not bloated and not a bodybuilder....but yeh you're definitely the type that would mess your pants if you came close to a physical altercation with anyone.

[Never1AShow]

This is a great thread by Darren. I can't tell who is trolling here.

People are convinced that Mike Tyson, who at the time was the best heavyweight boxer in the world, was bullied and beaten in prison.

And in the almost 30 years that have past since then not ONE story has emerged that documents this. Not even one inmate has attempted tell this type of story.

We also have a group of people that believes the best athletes in the world don't compete in sports.

 Lavar Ball was telling everyone his son is better than Steph Curry, which isn't far fetched because here we'd say the best basketball player in the world probably plays in a rec league in Alaska.

And by the way American prison isn't really like an episode of OZ.

It's worse and better than Oz.

All of these foolish notions come from people with no real experience in anything, never been in a realfight with another man, never accomplished anything hard, never played any sports at a high level.  We've just recently had the McEnroe comment that many were willing to opine on based on absolutely no knowledge or experience whatsoever.  My favorite was the Ronda Rousey could beat Floyd Mayweather group.


"Says who?" "Based on what evidence?" and "How do you know that?" are three questions that need to be drilled into people to ask these days.

[dj181]

gayve pee laying out some massive truths in this here thread

[Conker]

people fight with bouncers all the time, would bouncers be considered easy targets?

yeh but most of those tend to be drunk and in 9 out 10 cases of bouncers fighting it tends to be them just beating the sht out people rather than a "fight".

in prison (in the UK at least) there's really very few actual fights and most of the aggro is just bullies picking on the weak. not likely tyson would fall into that category.