How to build "insane" shoulder strength!

[Darren Avey]

100lb dumbells!!! Yeh insane! 

[robcguns]

At 175,100s for 8 is pretty fucking strong.

[Darren Avey]

At Genesis gym I see people doing the 150s for reps weighting 220.

[Tennisballz]

At Genesis gym I see people doing the 150s for reps weighting 220.

Are they good fighters though? All that matters in life is money and fighting ability.   

[oldtimer1]

I was impressed with his standing military presses that appeared to be 175LBS. The problem with seated dumbbell presses is that if you have you ass slid out with a slanted back brace you are doing an incline press. Still a shoulder exercise but you are bringing your chest into it. A better way to do the dumbbell shoulder press with dumbbells is to do it standing. You won't be able to use as much weight but you will be doing a true shoulder press.

[robcguns]

At Genesis gym I see people doing the 150s for reps weighting 220.

That’s fucking crazy.

[dan18]

At Genesis gym I see people doing the 150s for reps weighting 220.

very few pros use 150s

[ProudVirgin69]

At Genesis gym I see people doing the 150s for reps weighting 220.

I use the 155lb dumbbells for reps

[Nether Animal]

In the vid thumbnail his build looks as lot like mine

[Titus Pullo]

I have to give this kid credit insofar as he didn't film himself cooking his breakfast and driving around thereafter, which seems the new trend among Youtubers aside from  that "his gains are not loyal" retard and "Nick," who endlessly cites mindless figures.  He fucking had Dorian at 250 at the 1990 NoC.

[Wiggs]

It's 1.75 x his bodyweight. It's equivalent to a person 250lbs using 140s on shoulder press.

[lilhawk1]

If you're doing seated DB shoulder press leaning back against a pad, then you're not doing a shoulder press.  It's a glorified incline DB bench press.  I see morons at the gym doing this all the time.  Either sit straight up not leaning back against anything with the DBs or do a standing shoulder press with DBs or a barbell.  The same idiots will be doing half the weight at least because they're actually using their shoulders and not their chest.

[Coach is Back!]

If you're doing seated DB shoulder press leaning back against a pad, then you're not doing a shoulder press.  It's a glorified incline DB bench press.  I see morons at the gym doing this all the time.  Either sit straight up not leaning back against anything with the DBs or do a standing shoulder press with DBs or a barbell.  The same idiots will be doing half the weight at least because they're actually using their shoulders and not their chest.

 

[oldtimer1]

I bet you can dumbbell press a hell of a lot more weight seated with your ass at the edge of the seat with your back on the slanted back brace than standing with the dumbbells.

[be back]

how to build insane shoulder strength and then pay for it later with blown rotator cuffs and a life of painful arthritis.

[LurkerNoMore]

how to build insane shoulder strength and then pay for it later with blown rotator cuffs and a life of painful arthritis.

Truth.

[Coach is Back!]

I bet you can dumbbell press a hell of a lot more weight seated with your ass at the edge of the seat with your back on the slanted back brace than standing with the dumbbells.

Doubt it. Too much trunk instability

[Hypertrophy]

how to build insane shoulder strength and then pay for it later with blown rotator cuffs and a life of painful arthritis.

^^^This^^^

Pretty much every medical study done has shown that overhead presses destroy the shoulders over time.

[Coach is Back!]

^^^This^^^

Pretty much every medical study done has shown that overhead presses destroy the shoulders over time.

Over 40 years never had a problem with overhead movements. Have gone as heavy as 160’s in the past. 275 behind the neck and 315 from the front.

[TheShape.]

how to build insane shoulder strength and then pay for it later with blown rotator cuffs and a life of painful arthritis.

I’ve learned from older generations who have shoulder issues now to take it easy, moderate weights are key. I’m only training them for looks anyways.

[Tennisballz]

I've build decent delts just benching.  It's genetics.  Some guys have bigger delts and some don't.  You don't need a lot of overhead stuff.  Just benching and maybe throw in some barbell military here and there.  Going up to 150's is pointless and most people probably need drugs to get there, so yeah there's a high likelihood that the shoulders are going to get injured if you go really heavy as they weren't designed to lift that kind of weight overhead.

[jpm101]

There are a variety of ways to do DB presses, one or two arms. Including different hand positions. and overhead paths the DB takes..

Knew a guy from Italy (trained in San Diego) that sat flat on the floor, legs spread out in front of him, and did two arm DB's that way.  Around the 105-115 range if remembering right, 10-12 reps.  Some have done them from a kneeling position, trying to take most of the body English out of the movement.

Might suggest the one arm DB press while standing. Bracing the free hand against a supporting object. More focus and attention given to the exercise that way. And the possibility of using much more weight on the DB. Can try it strict style, but most give a bit of a knee action to start. Your choice.

 Though not for most the One arm DB side presses (not to be confused with regular DB presses) are another advanced way of pressing. Your pressing up, and as doing so, the body is bending towards the opposite side slightly. Not usually bracing with the free hand. Something like the old bent press, but not to that extreme. This can be a mass and strength builder for the whole shoulder girdle. If using 100's with regular DB presses, you might find yourself doing 110, or so, for good reps.

In the 60's and 70's DB overhead pressing the the big thing for delts. Still a good way to go.

Good Luck.    

[Nether Animal]

I use the machine for OHP and do cable raises and my delts are better than most in the gym. Probably just genetics, at least partly.

[be back]

power band lateral raises to warm up
8-10 kilo seated lateral raises supersetted with presses (raises first then presses then finish with raises)
1 arm cable side raises

Done..

[ChristopherA]

Thank.you. Been doing my db presses that way my whole life. Shoulders are my best body part but imagine how good they would be if I listened to the experts on getbig